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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6300 on: July 14, 2020, 02:27:31 am »
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Many cool ideas! I'm playtesting all submited cards and a little bit more time is needed to conclude it. So, this will be a

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Seignorage by NoMoreFun



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BTW the right spelling is Seigniorage
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6301 on: July 14, 2020, 04:13:22 am »
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New entry - rewards variety and gets stronger the earlier you play it.

Isn't this supposed to have the Attack and Doom types also?
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6302 on: July 14, 2020, 06:02:26 am »
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Moneychanger
Types: Action
Cost: $6*
+1 Card, +1 Action. You may play a Treasure from your hand twice.
During your turns, this costs $1 less for each Buy you have.
Heirloom: Pouch
Peddler variant.  Typically costs $5, but can cost less with +Buys.  It does nothing if you have no Treasures in hand.  It's very powerful with bigger Treasures.  The Pouch Moneychanger provides can reduce its cost to $4, or even $3 in concert with another Moneychanger.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6303 on: July 14, 2020, 09:33:10 am »
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New entry - rewards variety and gets stronger the earlier you play it.

Isn't this supposed to have the Attack and Doom types also?

It should have doom. It doesn't have action because you play it in your action or buy phase from the reaction.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6304 on: July 14, 2020, 09:48:52 am »
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New entry - rewards variety and gets stronger the earlier you play it.

Isn't this supposed to have the Attack and Doom types also?

It should have doom. It doesn't have action because you play it in your action or buy phase from the reaction.

He said Attack type, not Action type. And he's probably right; you should be able to defend against it.

The reward for playing it in your action phase is super strong, but also hard to ever get. That makes it hard to know if it's balanced or not... in games where you can get to 7 unique cards in play during your action phase, this might be far too powerful.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6305 on: July 14, 2020, 03:23:22 pm »
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New entry - rewards variety and gets stronger the earlier you play it.

Isn't this supposed to have the Attack and Doom types also?

It should have doom. It doesn't have action because you play it in your action or buy phase from the reaction.

He said Attack type, not Action type. And he's probably right; you should be able to defend against it.

The reward for playing it in your action phase is super strong, but also hard to ever get. That makes it hard to know if it's balanced or not... in games where you can get to 7 unique cards in play during your action phase, this might be far too powerful.

I feel like the action part of this is basically never helpful because if you can get 7 unique cards in play consistently, you are probably drawing your deck with or without Fae Market.

Black Market and Storyteller are maybe the only cases where this isn't true, but I'm still not sure of it, because playing a bunch of different treasures with Storyteller basically guarantees you draw your deck and playing BM into Fae Market still requires a bunch more cards for setup.

I also feel like you will very rarely be able to reveal this during your Night phase and not your Buy phase (it would basically require that there are night cards in the setup).

I think it should have an effect of payload during your Action phase, that would make the restriction on when it can be played mesh a lot better with what the card does.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6306 on: July 14, 2020, 03:49:06 pm »
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I also feel like you will very rarely be able to reveal this during your Night phase and not your Buy phase (it would basically require that there are night cards in the setup).

Just a comment on this, the card is Night type, so it can always be played during the Night phase.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6307 on: July 14, 2020, 06:29:00 pm »
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I also feel like you will very rarely be able to reveal this during your Night phase and not your Buy phase (it would basically require that there are night cards in the setup).

Just a comment on this, the card is Night type, so it can always be played during the Night phase.

Oh that makes sense.

I would put the "When you have at least 7 unique cards in play, you may play this from your hand." under a dividing line, usually reaction effects are like that. I interpreted this as a pure reaction with the Night type added to it to force Night phase to be a phase in the current game because of the nonstandard placement of the reaction effect. My interpretation is still wrong either way but I think changing the formatting would make the correct interpretation more obvious.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6308 on: July 14, 2020, 10:23:46 pm »
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Updated entry - in text because im lazy...

Fae Market - $3 - Reaction/Night/Attack/Doom
If it is your action phase: +1 Card, +1 Action
If it is your action or buy phase: +1 Buy, +1 Coffer
Otherwise, each other player receives the next hex.
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If you have 5 or more unique cards in play, you may play this from your hand.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6309 on: July 15, 2020, 03:40:14 am »
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I playtested my card in three solo games, and i bought the fourth province on round 17 two times and on round 11 the last time (but I might have counted wrong.) I didn't think it was too exiting, and every play felt risky. It may be slightly overpowered, since a play of it in a round 6 deck gives a pretty certain province, and if it is exiled you can pump a lot of them into your deck at once if you have played it some times before. It benefits from strong treasures, Peddlers and extra buys.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6310 on: July 15, 2020, 04:21:56 am »
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Submissions Closed

I have a few playtests to do, including the three new entries. I hope to post the results in the next 24 hours. Maybe a little more.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6311 on: July 17, 2020, 09:02:25 am »
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Contest #80 - Results

Congratulations to all for so many creative ideas and great designs!

I saw by the posts in this forum that the most of you were already discussing Dominion in high level when I even didnít know about the game. So, it was a hard task to me to judge your work. I donít have the expertise you have to look a card and see all possible scenarios for it. The best I could do to have something useful to say about the cards was to playtest them and so it was what I did. Please take the following comments as what they are: just some notes of an average player, far from being the discerning opinion of an expert. And please, donít be upset if even with the tests I misjudged or undervalued your card. On the other hand, please let me know if I did it, I like to know when Iím wrong.

Another hard task to me is to write in English. So please forgive any misspell and the poor vocabulary. I didnít have time to revise the text, so there would be some mistypes too.

Thank you very much!

Playtests

I played 41 simulated matches using the submitted cards in which I played for both players (in one of them for 3 players). Early it was clear that so many more tests would be necessary to the conclusions be consistent and statistically relevant. As I said before in the forum, the tests also were biased by my style of play and limitations as player. So, any conclusions should be taken with reservations.

In general, I played the tested cards with a kingdom with the simplest cards of each category of the base set. Village as Village, Workshop as gainer, Smith to draw, Remodel as remodeler, etc. When necessary for test some feature I included other cards. When I say in the comments that I played a card against other, I mean that one player played with one of them and not the other and vice versa, being the rest of the kingdom available to both.

Comments

I will organize my comments in an order that groups cards with some similar features. There are four cards that are draw-to-x, so Iíll start by them:




Scribe by D782802859

I like the way it makes use of night phase to save the card if it was not used. However, in the playtests Scribe shows some weakness. The difference from Scholar is that Scholar normally draws you more cards that you have before. With Scribe it only happens if you manage to reduce your hand size before, which is not always easy, you have to play before cards that donít draw and still have an action available to play Scribe. In general, itís s sifter not a draw card. Even in the best scenario to it (with non-terminal trashers and villages that donít draw), in which it sometimes draws, many times it ends up being only a terminal Cellar. I could see how important is that +1 Action in sifters like Cellar or Warehouse. Scribe would be better with that +1 Action too, but maybe this way it could have some resemblance to Hunting Lodge.

To deal with the question of reduce hand size before draw-to-x, three cards came with the same solution. Letís see them:





Physician by ConMan

With it you have two ways to reduce your hand before draw-to-x, playing Treasures and trashing a card from your hand. As a trasher it is slow to get rid of you Coppers and States and the system of ďpay to trashĒ, an opposite version of TFB, discourages you to trash other cards. Play treasures in action phase really reduces hand size, but itís so effective to play Treasures that you donít want to buy actions, except for some +Buy source. As said in forum comments, it leads to somewhat monolithic money strategies. Be too strong in only one predefined way is not very fun.





No Name Yet by Jonatan Djurachkovitch

A similar card to Physician. It doesnít trash but discards your hand and draws up to 4. Its hand reducing is guaranteed by discard part. The exile penalty is intended to nerf it a little but if you playing with it you would want to buy other copies and release the ones in exile, so till pile ends the penalty is not much significant. It has the same issues as Physician, leading to money strategy. When played, it discards the Actions you have in hand, so it makes quite random to try to use Actions with it. It ends up that the +1 action it gives is more often used to chain with itself and play with money in a not very creative way.





Alchemist's Guild by spineflu

Since it came from a previous version of an old contest, probably Alchemistís Guild was the first to came with the play-Treasures/draw-to-x idea. It is more balanced than the previous two cards, as it plays only one Treasure each time. The treasures play in action phase is also a condition to get a Prize. The Potion in cost and the fact that you need two in play at the same turn slow down the setup to gain a Prize. In tests I gained the prize around turn 8 or 9. Normally I prefer Followers, but Trusty Steed and Bag of Gold seems to interact better with Alchemistís Guild. I tried to play with a deck half Action-half Treasures to see if it works with an engine. However, what is needed to it play well is in conflict to what makes an engine speeds up. It anti-synergizes with Actions with strong draw. With them, it many times was only less than a Peddler (as you would play anyway the Treasures it played). So, like previous cards, it was more effective playing with Treasures and chaining with itself, since the ones after the first played are more than a Lab. However, it is slow to start to produce its best results and, even with the help of the Prize, in my tests it lost to faster engines.





Morning Market by majiponi

Morning Market in a certain way make Treasures being played out of normal place, but it has some issues relating to the contest conditions. At first I said it was not according to the rule of not create a new phase. On second thought, I accepted the argument that this buy phase inserted into Action phase is not a new phase in the sense of a new type of phase. However, it leads to another issue with contest conditions. If this inserted phase is a Buy phase, thereís no card being played in more than one phase. Actions are still played only in Action phase and Treasures only in buy phase. What this card does is to change phases order not change cards properties, which is the object of the contest. Anyway, I played with it and it seems an interesting card. I like the theme, the anticipated Buy phase being the Morning Market. In many turns, specially the first ones, what happens is that the inserted Buy phase occurs but turn doesnít progress to regular Buy phase. So it is like playing a game where everything is equal except that you topdeck all cards gained in buy phase. It makes the game to be fast. And even faster when you begin to have cards to resume Action phase after the inserted buy phase. In this case, you can draw the bought cards and will have another Buy phase. This cycle is powerful. I think is too much impact for a $2 cost card, but I really donít know what price would be better.





Moneychanger by Fragasnap

Moneychanger is another card that play Treasures in the action phase. I like its cost system, based on the buys you have. If you have many buys it could be very cheap, but each one you buy makes it costs increase again. Use Pouch as Heirloom is a wise idea, to unsure some +Buy. However, it brings a lucky factor to the opening. If you have Pouch in your $4 hand, you can open with Moneychanger. As it plays a Treasure twice, it seemed to me at first to be a good card to unsure payload to an engine, since you can have few Treasures and make better use of them. The tests, however, demonstrate that it is too strong playing only with money. I used Chapel to clean a deck only to Moneychangers, Golds, Pouch and Chapel. Each pair of Moneychanger/Gold is $6 and was easy to align three pairs. Since Moneychanger is a cantrip, thereís no problem in having a lot of them. If the kingdom has a source of non-terminal +buy, it becomes broken.





Replicate by Aquila

A similar situation to the one that makes Moneychanger overpowered happens with Replicate. Here what is played twice is a chameleoned Action card in buy phase. Strong terminal draw cards already becomes very powerful and versatile when chameleoned, since they can be used as draw and payload. When Replicate doubles their payload power, they become insane. The Throne function is so powerful that I didnít even want to use the gaining function. Replicate is expensive, so it seems better to buy others copies of actions than gaining them by trashing Replicate. Anyway, you donít need so many copies of each action, since you can play each twice. I cleaned a deck to have only Replicates, Council Rooms and Chapel. Just a Council Room play was enough to put in hand with many pairs of Replicate/Council room, each one giving $8 and a buy. Even with the opponent drawing a lot of cards because of these throned Council Rooms, she didnít have a chance against these somewhat broken strategy.





Overstrain by grep

Another entry about playing a card again is Overstrain. Now the card is played twice when trashed from play. Itís an event that replaces the buy you used to buy it, so you spend only $3 to do it. The nearest comparison is to Bonfire, so I played it against Bonfire to see the results. Bonfire costs a buy but trash two cards each time. It is so much faster than Overstrain to trash your coppers. Most of the time, especially in first turns, that $1 I gained by trashing a Copper with Overstrain were useless. The same for the +Buy it replaces. I included in kingdom some actions like Sea Hag or Cutpurse that you want to trash after some uses. It was cool to throne them when trashing, but this swan song of a weak Action was too occasional to make a strong difference. Near to the end of the game Overstrain allows some more effective tricks like replay gainers or bridges to pile out. Donít need to spend buys to do it is good. On the long run, it demonstrates to compensate with its own cool possibilities the initial slowness comparing to Bonfire and the results playing with one or the other were close.





Captains's Quarters by mail-mi

Captainís Quarters is other card that plays a card again, in this case in the start of next turn. It has some similarity with Cargo Vessel, a card I presented some contests ago that is a strong $5. Mail-mi tried to keep Captainís Quarters at $4 by weakening from previous version, but the question is if the present version is still strong for a $4. What a Village it is! As pointed in forum comments, the global result is +2 actions after replace spent action and card. The nearest comparison is to Bustling Village without the Settlers part. But it is better than Bustling Village. With +3 actions in the same turn theirs is not uncommon to donít use all of them. Using two this turn and one in the next tends to be more reliable in the long run. Other advantage of Captainís Quarters is that the +Card it gives to replace the played village card is not a random card, it is a chosen card. You simply play now and in the next turn your best target for Captainís Quarters you have in hand (Itís quite insane when itís a Throne Room and you have good cards to throne). And you do it with the same copy of that card. This control over what is played and the speed in which you replay your best actions are features strong enough to compensate the delayed draw. I would say, enough to make Captainís Quarters too strong for a $4. But besides it thereís still the on gain ability. In tests it was useful many times when Captainís Quarters was gained by a Workshop, it already starts to act as a Village when gained. The few tricks you may do playing a Treasure or a Night card is only a small bonus to a lot of strong features. Conclusion: Captainís Quarters is a nice card, comparable to the best Villages. Definitively itís too much strong to be a $4. It would be cool as a $5 and still in the strong side. Though it would maybe disfigure the design in the on gain part, it seems to be necessary to raise its price.





Mummy by LibraryAdventurer

Another card that play cards at the start of next turn is Mummy. I agree with the comments that it has also to be a Duration. It would make it a five type card, which despite has nothing wrong, seems a bit inelegant to my taste. The design of this card seems to be too much oriented to try to make good things with ruins. It gives ruins to other players and finds a way to use those Ruins that are clogging your hand. It makes good use of phases structure, making different but interconnected things in action and buy phases. However, both abilities that it adds to a Silver seemed to be a little weak. The attack is slow. The ability of buy phase needs the set aside cards you play to be dead cards this turn. It happens with Ruins, but more often you have one or two in hand. The best scenario for the ability effect (but worst for the present turn) is when you have three, but even in this case what you get is three vanilla bonuses next turn (in best cases, something like the next turn part of a Wharf effect). It was not very effective. I tried to play it in a kingdom with many $2 cost good cards to see if the buy phase ability is better with them. However, most of times thereís no good reason to postpone their play to next turn neither much gain in doing so. I did with Mummy the only simulation of a three player game of my tests and it was better for the player that doesnít play with it. If you attack with Mummy but your opponent has other way to get rid of the Ruins or to deal with them and donít mirror you, you probably would have no use to buy phase ability and end up only with a terminal Silver with a weak attack.





Tenant by [TP] Inferno

Two other cards are also intended to produce results in future turns, using for that in their case the reserve mechanic. One is Tenant. It is very similar to Coin of the Realm, only changing one of the vanilla bonus from +Action to +Card and modifying the condition to call it to be in any moment of Action phase instead of after playing an action. These changes, however, make it so much better than Coin of the Realm when played. That +1 card is often better than an additional action. Call it at any moment helps a lot and many times ignites again what would be a weak turn. When I tried to buy many of them, however, my hand was often full of the Coppers they are before being reserved. The secret to play with it seems to be have only a few and call them in right moments. Playing this way, itís an effective card, but, I donít know, it still seems to me to occupy the same niche of Coin of the Realm.





Quiet Alleyway by X-tra

The other Reserve card is Quiet Alleyway. The reward when called is better, besides those +1 Card and +1 Action you also gain +$1. However, thereís a condition to send it to Tavern mat, not playing more than three cards before play it. Iím not a big fan of cards which do nothing in some situations and in this case this factor seems really to be an issue. In first turns the condition is easy to be achieved and early calls of this really boosts some of them. But as game advances more and more you have to face the decision between to sacrifice a turn or try to boost it. Many times I had one or two Quiet Alleways in Tavern mat and one in hand with some other medium cards and had to decide if I play one more mediocre turn or accept that this time this Quiet Alleyway in my hand will be a dead card. The sensation was that in both cases I was losing something. This conflict seems to be inherent to the card, in your good turns you often end up with one or more copies of it dead in hand. This possibility increases when you have good draws, so it anti-synergizes with strong drawers. The best scenarios for Quiet Alleway are the worst for the players: games with a lot of junk, no trashing or hand size reducers attacks. In these cases, it helps, but not at the point to be decisive by itself. Stack them to do a megaturn is slow and needs a lot of weak turns before. And, differently of a Tactician for example, it in fact doesnít draw: for each additional card you have in your megaturn you had to play a card before in a previous turn.





Fae Market by LordBaphomet

Another card which has a special condition to be achieved is Fae Market. In this case the condition is to align unique cards in a similar way to Magic Lamp. I like very much its mechanic of a challenge that rewards you more the earlier you complete it. It makes very good use of the phases structure in its progression. And I love the fact of it being three-phase, having different behaviors in Action, Buy and Night phases. The idea is very cool, but playing with it shows that the condition of 5 uniques is hard to achieve. If you want to try, each duplicate you have in hand is an almost dead card that you can play only after react with Fae Market. If thereís no way to trash your Coppers and Estates, it is very difficult. In many plays it only distribute the hexes, which harm a little but are two random and often weak. With cheap cantrips and villages in kingdom plus a Silver, sometimes you reach the uniques in Buy phase, but what you get quite anti-synergizes with the condition. As you can only play one Copper, often you let one or two more in hand without playing to gain that Coffers. Coffers are better if you can stock them to use when you need, but, since you donít have much money this turn ($3 from Copper and Silver and maybe a little more from actions), if you want to use the extra buy you gained you probably have to use the Coffers. In general, I preferred to save the Coffers, so most of the times I lost the extra buy. With good trashers to clean your deck and good actions in kingdom is easier to align 5 uniques and sometimes I did it in Action phase. Howewer, as pointed in the forum, with this kind of cards you probably can draw your deck anyway, so the bonus of Action phase is not very effective. I think Fae Market would be better if the condition would be to align different named cards played like Horn of Plenty, with no need to have only copy of each in play. With Magic Lamp it works because you have to do it only once in a game and the reward is very good. Needing to do it many times limits playing possibilities. I love the idea, though it needs improvements in its implementation.





Seigniorage by NoMoreFun

Talking about Coffers leads to Seigniorage. Maybe one of the cards ever with less wording, itís cool and elegant. I like very much the way it uses the very same instruction in two phases and it has different results in each phase. Since, as I said, Coffers are best if can stock them rather than to be forced to play them in the same turn you gained them, itís better to play Seigniorage in the Night, when itís non-terminal. Itís what I did most in the tests. Early this tests confirmed what was told in the forum, gaining two Coffers non-terminally is too strong for a $4 cost card. It is better than Baker, even with Baker being a cantrip. I played with it against Baker and rapidly the player playing Seigniorage had a lot of Coffers more than the one playing with Baker.
Note: Before NoMoreFun changed his entry, I playtested Watchdog. It has the inconstancy of the cards that deals with discard pile, but had good results playing against Lookout, which has some similarities with it. It also has a cool interaction with Artificer.





Vespers by stechafle

Another Action-Night card is Vespers. The comparison to Chapel is immediate, so the questions about it is how they are different it and if Vespers is stronger than Chapel or not. The downside of Vespers is not being able to select the cards to trash. Comparing to Chapel, it has the advantages of doesnít use an action to trash, being able to trash more than four cards and has other function, as a Necropolis. So, I played it against Chapel. Most of times they both played very equal. You normally use Chapel in the first turns and trash all your hand. The situations in which Vespers would be worse practically donít happen. To they happen you should have two terminals and Vespers in hand plus some cards you want to trash (probably two). To trash that cards you have to trash one of the terminals. However, itís not also a good situation if is Chapel in your hand instead of Vespers, if you play Chapel you are not playing both terminals. The Vespers solution to this situation ends up to being better: you play it this turn as a Necropolis and play both terminals. The advantages of Vespers over Chapel were most significant, specially being able to use it without spend an Action and becomes a Necropolis and not a dead card after conclude trashing. In a game without Villages it is worth even buy one more to use as Necropolis. Conclusion: Vespers is stronger than Chapel. Being Chapel already one of the strongest cards in the game, I think it doesnít need a stronger version.





Night Hag by Marpharos

Another Action-Night is Night Hag, which is also a curser Attack. LordBaphomet alerted in the forum that itís strictly better than Witch, so I was waiting to Marpharos change his entry to playtest the card. It was not changed, so I didnít playtest it. Itís strictly better than Witch. Not being strictly better than an existent card is a basic principle of a card design. Anyway, thereís room for a night curser and you can persist in this good idea.





Way of the Wolf by grrgrrgrr

In the night also comes the Wolf. In this case in the form of a Way by which you postpone an Action play to Night phase to gain a +$1 bonus. Itís cool to play some actions in the Night, but the playtests early revealed that Way of the Wolf leads to some automatic decisions. If an Action card is the type of Action you can play in Night phase with the same results, thereís no reason to not play it using the Way of the Wolf and gain that free +$1. The overall result is like some piles begin the game with the +$1 token of all players put on them. It makes the game faster to all players, but not in a very interesting way. Some decisions could take place when you have to choose the order you play the postponed actions in the Night phase start, but it often doesnít make much difference.





Way of the Magpie by scolapasta

Another entry to use the way mechanism is Way of the Magpie. Itís a kind of local Capitalism that applies only to targeted cards. You need to play an Action card in order to the others with the same name become treasures this turn. Why would you do it? In some cases, because there could be some cards in the kingdom which interacts with Treasure type cards and allow cool tricks, like Treasurer or Mandarin. In many situations, however, thereís nothing intrinsically better for an Action in being also a Treasure, except for the fact that you can play Treasures without spend an action. So, Way of the Magpie applies better to the situations you want to play many copies of the same action and donít have good sources of +Action. That action also has to be of the kind that is good to play in buy phase, like a source of +Buy or payload. In playtests it revealed to be hard to setup. You need to have at least two copies of the same action this turn to it be useful. If you didnít overbuy that action yet, so having few copies of it in your deck, and could count only with your initial hand of five cards to align two of them, itís a kind of Treasure Map challenge, very random (and you have the additional penalty of discarding a Treasure if you want to play the first one). It conduces to a kind of paradox. If you want to increase your chances to align many copies of the same action in the same turn, you have to draw cards. Itís hard to draw many cards non-terminally, so if you want strong draw you have to play a terminal. The cards you want to Magpie donít give actions (if they do, you donít need to play them in Buy phase). So, to play both, the terminal drawer and the card you want to Magpie, you need a Village. But if you have Villages, you donít need to play your actions in Buy phase. Capitalism works because you buy it once and it has a global effect for the rest of the game. Way of the Magpie needs to setup every turn to produce a more limited effect. In the tests it didnít help so much the player who used it.





Guinea by mandioca15

Many of the submitted cards play Actions in Buy phase. The simplest of them is Guinea, a Copper that allows to play an Action. Playtests confirmed the initial impression that it is weak. It is not good to open with it, as you still donít have many Actions. Even with a lot of Actions in deck, there arenít so many situations in which it was useful. Sometimes it played a dead drawn Smith, but most of time it was only a Copper. As pointed in forum, Squire and many others $2 cost are better than it. It can make a strong combo with double Tactician, but all the cards of this contest that play Actions in Buy phase or Night phase do the same trick, so itís not a differential.





Pendant by anordinaryman

Pendant do all Guinea do plus many other things. It is not only a Treasure that plays Actions, itís also an Action that plays Treasures and Actions and replaces the Action you spent to do it. In both cases it gives +$1. It also has an additional option of being set aside to replay a card. (In this case, I donít know for sure if it is returned to deck when scoring, which could make difference in some few cases. Also, I didnít understand well the FAQ proposed. I donít know how could it generate infinite money only by playing itself without being moved to hand again). Talking about playing it: play a Treasure card is useful to draw-to-x, as said above, and it may help in these cases. Eventually you would want to play a dead drawn action in Buy phase. The playtests show that the main use is in Action phase playing an Action card. In this use itís like a one turn Fishing Village. The ability to trash it to replay a card is useful sometimes to save a turn, itís the kind of trade-off of you do when trash a Mining Village. I played it against Fishing Village to see if this pack of little functions plus not being drawn dead would compensate the double play of Fishing Village. The results were very closed, indicating that pendant is a nice and balanced card.
Note: I liked the crazy idea of a previous version to make it play anything including Curses and Victories. I didnít think about the implications or even viability of it, but it seems funny.





Port City by segura

Other Action-Treasure card is Port City. Two simple instructions: + 3 cards in Action phase or +$1 and a Villager in Buy phase. It was said in the forum that it could be a one card engine, so I tried to play this way, chaining with itself. It didnít work this solo way, itís not so effective as the only Village and its payload is not so much. It is better described as a strong draw card that, despite being terminal in action phase, has another function in other phase which avoids it from being drawn dead. Itís similar to Werewolf in this aspect, but it is better than Werewolf in two things. First in the interaction between the two phases abilities. If you draw Port City dead for Action phase you have an alternative play in Buy phase and what you get in this alternative play is something (a Villager) that helps it to not being drawn dead in other turn. Also this alternative play gives something useful to this moment, a +$1. This Villager plus the coin makes the bonus of this alternative play often better than Werewolf random hex attack. Playing Port City as it is meant to be, a strong draw card with a versatile bonus proves to be very effective and with interesting decisions. A great and well balanced card, showing that thereís room to make good cards combining simple elements. I also like how it interacts thematically with other cards with similar features in the game (in the same semantic field of Port Market, a card I presented some contests ago).





Lunar Ritual by alion8me

A simple and elegant instruction and many things happen. It transforms Night phase into a Mission/Champion mini-turn in which you play for free any actions that are good to play in a Mission turn: gainers, trashers, attacks, remodelers, deck spies and organizers and Actions with effects in next turn. In actual stage of Dominion, you can build engines around these kind of actions and win the game without need too many + Buys. Being an event, Lunar Ritual is always available when you want. You only have to spend $3 and a buy to trigger it, so many times you change the day by night. If the kingdom doesnít have a Village but has good Actions, itís mandatory. In tests the player who didnít play with it lost by far. Even with Villages present many times was better to go directly to the most significant actions. Playing free Actions in the Night makes easier to do some cool tricks, like gain gainers, draw and play them to gain more cards. The combo with double Tactician has its best version with it, you can do all your stuff before play second Tactician. Lunar Ritual only is not so good when the kingdom doesnít have gainers. Even then, itís always there and you can have the balance between day and night you want and need. It was very fun to play with it. I also love the art, the theme, its interaction with mechanic and analogies it evokes, Night being a time of free actions. Great card!



Results


Honourable Mentions

- Captains's Quarters by mail-mi

- Fae Market by LordBaphomet

- Overstrain by grep

- Pendant by anordinaryman


Runner Up

- Port City by Segura


Winner

- Lunar Ritual by alion8me





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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #6312 on: July 17, 2020, 09:15:38 am »
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That was actually really good judging in my opinion. It was clear and concise, and even went to the effort of making mockups for each card! Very well done!
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« Reply #6313 on: July 17, 2020, 10:27:35 am »
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Yeah... I'm very impressed by the level of effort and attention to detail put in these judgings. Thank you!
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« Reply #6314 on: July 17, 2020, 10:38:15 am »
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That was actually really good judging in my opinion. It was clear and concise, and even went to the effort of making mockups for each card! Very well done!
agree, on par with a secret history in terms of per-card detail. bravo, Carline.
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« Reply #6315 on: July 17, 2020, 10:59:59 am »
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That was actually really good judging in my opinion. It was clear and concise, and even went to the effort of making mockups for each card! Very well done!

Now we just need a best-judging contest.
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« Reply #6316 on: July 17, 2020, 12:26:53 pm »
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Agreed with all the great judging comments  - very impressed, obrigado.

On my card (way of the Magpie), yeah, I knew I didn't love it, but didn't have time to think of ways to improve it. Your playtests revealed many of its flaws. The other one I saw, is that when it's good, it can make for a boring BM game, i.e. just buy Smithy and Treasure. For the cost of a Copper, you can keep drawing either the $ treasures or more draw.

Definitely needs a rethink.

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« Reply #6317 on: July 17, 2020, 12:49:48 pm »
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Very in depth, and well done to alion8me! I know my night hag needed some more work to make it either less better than witch or something but I didnít have the time to give to it in the end. Maybe it needed to cost 6 or just have a weaker effect (probably the latter). Idk. Was lots of fun though, thank you Carline!!
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« Reply #6318 on: July 17, 2020, 02:02:08 pm »
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Added to the chorus of voices praising Carline's effort in judging. I am very happy to make honorable mention. I was rooting for alion8me's Lunar Ritual the whole time. It's simply phrased and complicated to use correctly. It expands the game without being game-warping. It really belongs in Dominion. I can only imagine that Donald X never thought of a similar idea. It's so good it should be in the game.
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« Reply #6319 on: July 17, 2020, 03:33:25 pm »
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Added to the chorus of voices praising Carline's effort in judging. I am very happy to make honorable mention. I was rooting for alion8me's Lunar Ritual the whole time. It's simply phrased and complicated to use correctly. It expands the game without being game-warping. It really belongs in Dominion. I can only imagine that Donald X never thought of a similar idea. It's so good it should be in the game.

The first time I saw lunar ritual, I thought "wow, why didn't I think of that". I knew it was going to win right from the start, being very simple while having endless interactions.
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« Reply #6320 on: July 17, 2020, 05:04:34 pm »
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Thank ya'll!

Also, I agree with everyone else that Carline's judging is fantastic - I'm worried about how I'll be able to follow that up!

Anyways...



Contest #81 - A Fine Line

Design a card/card-shaped thing that has a dividing line, where the effect under the line is unique. Reactions almost always have them, but there are other types of things you can do with them too: on-trash, on-gain, reserve, setup, while-in-play, or in-games-using-this effects just to name a few. Traveler lines and the use of other non-supply piles are fine, but below-the-line effects similar to "when you discard this from play, you may exchange this for an X" are not considered to be unique for the purposes of this contest, even if X isn't gained by any official card in this way. So, out of the official travelers, Page would not satisfy these rules but Peasant would due to Teacher. Double-line (or more) cards are fine, as long as at least one of the below-the-line effects are unique.

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« Reply #6321 on: July 17, 2020, 05:50:10 pm »
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For reference the dividing lines in the game are:
Reveal after attack to be unaffected (Moat)
1 VP (Mill)
2 VP (Nobles, Harem, Island)
While in play, attacks don't affect you (Lighthouse)
Topdeck if you didn't buy Victory card (Treasury)
Topdeck treasure when you discard this from play (Herbalist)
Topdeck if you played potion (Alchemist)

Setup mat and coins (Trade route)
Reveal on gain to trash or topdeck (Watchtower)
Actions cost 2 less (Quarry)
Gain double on $4 or less buy (Talisman)
Trash treasures in play when bought (Mint)
May topdeck new gain (Royal Seal)
Gain gold when you buy Victory card (Hoard)
+1 VP on buy (Goons)
Can't buy if copper in play (Grand Market)
Costs 2 less per action in play during buy phase (peddler)

Set aside from hand on attack, +1 card and return to your hand next turn (Horse Traders)
Add bane (Young Witch)
Cards cost 2 less (Princess)

May gain this when you gain duchy (Duchess)
When other player gains province, trash this to topdeck gold (Fool's gold)
When dicarded, gain gold (tunnel)
This is gained onto deck (nomads)
Reveal to gain silver instead of other card (trader)
When gained, gain two coppers (hoard)
When gained, opponents gained silver (embassy)
cards cost 1 less (highway)
When gained, opponents gain a curse (igg)
Gain cheaper card on buy (haggler)
Shuffle any actions from discard into deck when gained (inn)
Topdeck treasures in play (mandarin)
gain cheaper card on gain (border village)
Remodel card when gained (farmland)

Discard when attacked to gain 2 silvers, topdecking one (beggar)
Gain attack when trashed (squire)
when dicarded without buying, trash this and gain X (hermit)
When you trash a card, may discard this for gold (market square)
When you play another attack, trash this and gain X (urchin)
Gain two ruins when gained (death cart)
gain 3 silvers when trashed (feodum)
put into hand when trashed (fortress)
+1 card when trashed (rats, overgrown estate)
gain cheaper card when trashed (catacombs)
+3 cards when trashed (cultists)
gain duchy or 3 estates when trashed (hunting grounds)
gain gold when trashed (sir vander)


setup: make bm deck (black market)
when you play silver, may trash card from your hand (sauna)
topdeck at end of turn if 2 or less actions in play (walled village)
while shuffling, place anywhere in your deck (stash)


Use these for inspiration or reference! Note: the wordings were altered to make it faster to type
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« Reply #6322 on: July 17, 2020, 06:42:46 pm »
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Moat
cost $2 - Action - Reaction
+2 Cards
This turn, you are unaffected by other players' playing Attack cards.
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When another player plays an Attack card, you may play this from your hand.


A moat variant. In 2-player games, almost strictly better than the official Moat (edge case: you cannot choose to be affected by another Attack). In 4-player game, for example, when Alice plays a Militia, you can draw and protect yourself "this turn"; you have to discard 3 cards when Bob plays another Militia.
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« Reply #6323 on: July 17, 2020, 06:45:25 pm »
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Thanks Caroline for judging and playtesting, and congrats alion8me on winning! This is my submission for the contest:

Scouting Pack
Action-Reserve - 4$
+1 Action
Put this onto your tavern mat
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You may call this before or after resolving an action to reveal the top 4 cards of your deck: discard any number and put the rest onto your deck in any order.
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When you buy this, gain another Scouting Pack, and put both onto your tavern mat.
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« Reply #6324 on: July 17, 2020, 06:46:20 pm »
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For reference the dividing lines in the game are:
Reveal after attack to be unaffected (Moat)
1 VP (Mill)
2 VP (Nobles, Harem, Island)
While in play, attacks don't affect you (Lighthouse)
Topdeck if you didn't buy Victory card (Treasury)
Topdeck treasure when you discard this from play (Herbalist)
Topdeck if you played potion (Alchemist)

Setup mat and coins (Trade route)
Reveal on gain to trash or topdeck (Watchtower)
Actions cost 2 less (Quarry)
Gain double on $4 or less buy (Talisman)
Trash treasures in play when bought (Mint)
May topdeck new gain (Royal Seal)
Gain gold when you buy Victory card (Hoard)
+1 VP on buy (Goons)
Can't buy if copper in play (Grand Market)
Costs 2 less per action in play during buy phase (peddler)

Set aside from hand on attack, +1 card and return to your hand next turn (Horse Traders)
Add bane (Young Witch)
Cards cost 2 less (Princess)

May gain this when you gain duchy (Duchess)
When other player gains province, trash this to topdeck gold (Fool's gold)
When dicarded, gain gold (tunnel)
This is gained onto deck (nomads)
Reveal to gain silver instead of other card (trader)
When gained, gain two coppers (hoard)
When gained, opponents gained silver (embassy)
cards cost 1 less (highway)
When gained, opponents gain a curse (igg)
Gain cheaper card on buy (haggler)
Shuffle any actions from discard into deck when gained (inn)
Topdeck treasures in play (mandarin)
gain cheaper card on gain (border village)
Remodel card when gained (farmland)

Discard when attacked to gain 2 silvers, topdecking one (beggar)
Gain attack when trashed (squire)
when dicarded without buying, trash this and gain X (hermit)
When you trash a card, may discard this for gold (market square)
When you play another attack, trash this and gain X (urchin)
Gain two ruins when gained (death cart)
gain 3 silvers when trashed (feodum)
put into hand when trashed (fortress)
+1 card when trashed (rats, overgrown estate)
gain cheaper card when trashed (catacombs)
+3 cards when trashed (cultists)
gain duchy or 3 estates when trashed (hunting grounds)
gain gold when trashed (sir vander)

Use these for inspiration or reference! Note: the wordings were altered to make it faster to type

I would like to note, this is missing a few;

When another player plays an Attack card, you may reveal this from your hand. If you do, +2 Cards, then put 2 cards from your hand on top of your deck (Secret Chamber) (yes this counts even though it's a first edition only card)
When another player plays an Attack card, you may first reveal this from a hand of 5 or more cards, to draw 2 cards then discard 3 (Diplomat)

Overpay for Action cards (Stonemason)
Overpay for trashing (Doctor)
Overpay for Silvers (Masterpiece)
Overpay for topdecking (Herald)
Setup: each player starts with +1 Coffer (Baker)
When you buy a card, +1 Coffer (Merchant Guild)

Call for +2 Actions (Coin of the Realm)
Call for trashing (Ratcatcher)
When another player plays an attack card, play this from your hand (Caravan Guard)
Call for discard your hand, draw 5 cards (Guide)
Call for a copy of gained card costing up to $6 (Duplicate)
When this is your first buy, pick a card costing up to $4 to distribute (Messenger)
When you buy this, gain another one (Port)
Call for remodel-in-place effect (Transmogrify)
Worth 4VP on tavern mat (Distant Lands)
When you gain this, other players draw a card (Lost City)
Call for Throne effect (Royal Carriage)
Call if you have $2 unspent (Wine Merchant)
Call for Adventures tokens (Peasant/Teacher)
Exchanging for other cards upon discarding (Various)

When you gain or trash this, gain a silver, putting it somewhere special (Rocks)
When you gain this, take VP from its pile (Temple)
When you gain this, put it in your hand, +1 Action, and go to your Action phase (Villa)
When you discard this from play, take 6 Debt that you may pay off (Capital)
When you gain this, if you have at least 5 Action cards, +2 VP (Emporium)
When you buy this, +1 Buy (Forum)
While this is in play, when you gain a Victory card, +1 VP (Groundskeeper)
When you gain this, gain a Gold per Gladiator you have in play (Fortune)
Worth 1 VP per castle you have (Humble Castle)
When you gain or trash this, +1 VP and gain a Silver (Crumbling Castle)
When you gain this, gain a gold and discard attack (Haunted Castle)
3 VP (Opulent Castle)
When you gain this, gain a Duchy or 3 Estates (Sprawling Castle)
When you gain this, reveal your hand. +1 VP per Victory card in hand and/or in play (Grand Castle)
Setup: Add 1 debt to each supply pile (Tax)
Setup: Put 8 VP tokens on the Silver and Gold piles (Aqueduct)
Setup: Put 6 VP tokens here per player (Various)
Setup: Put 2 VP on each non-Gathering supply pile (Defiled Shrine)
Setup: Choose a random Action Supply pile (Obelisk)

Setup: Set aside the top 3 Boons face up (Druid)
When you discard this other than during clean up, set it aside and put it in your hand next turn (Faithful Hound)
This is gained to your hand (Various)
In games using this, when you gain a card costing $3 or more, you may exchange it for this (Changeling)
When you gain this, take a Boon and receive it either now or at the beginning of next turn (Blessed Village)
When you gain this, trash up to 4 cards from your hand (Cemetery)
Setup: Put the 3 Zombies into the trash (Necromancer)
When you gain this, gain a gold (Skulk)
When you gain this, receive a Hex (Cursed Village)
When you trash this, you may discard and Action card to gain a Ghost (Haunted Mirror)
Worth 1 VP per Estate (Pasture)

When you gain this, you may trash a Copper from your hand (Ducat)
When you gain this, +2 Villagers (Lackeys)
When you gain this, gain another one (Experiment)
When you gain or trash this, take the Flag (Flag Bearer)
When something causes you to reveal this, +1 Coffers (Patron)
When you gain or trash this, +1 Coffers and +1 Villager (Silk Merchant)
When you gain this, +2 Coffers (Spices)

When another player gains a Victory card, you may play this (Black Cat)
When you gain a card, you may discard this to topdeck/put it into hand (Sleigh)
When you gain this, Exile a Gold from the supply (Camel Train)
When you gain this, you may discard Treasures for Horses (Hostelry)
When you gain a card, you may play this (Sheepdog)
This has the same cost as the last other card gained this turn (Wayfarer)
Instead of paying this card's cost, you may trash an Action card from your hand (Animal Fair)
During your turns, this costs $1 less per card you've gained this turn (Destrier)
During your turns, this costs $3 less if your discard is empty (Fisherman)
When you gain this, +2 Cards, +1 Buy, return to your Action phase (Cavalry)
When you discard this other than during Clean-up, you may play it (Village Green)
When any player gains a multi-type card, you may play this (Falconer)
Setup: Set aside an unused Action costing $2 or $3 (Way of the Mouse)

I think this should be all of them.
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