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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3575 on: September 21, 2019, 10:15:25 pm »
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Shanty Library
cost $2 - Action
+1 Card
Put this into your hand.
If this is the first time you played Shanty Library, +2 Actions.
Revised a card named Animal Trail from https://s456.hatenablog.com/entry/2019/08/29/171427 .
It converts Actions to Cards.
Super strong? Maybe yes, but the second Shanty Library in hand will be useless. Not broken.
Super strong with Champion? Of course yes!

You really should try to avoid putting cards back into your hand (or discarding them) after playing them. You even mention that champion + this provides infinite draw (an infinite combo with only 2 cards), but imagine if you have your +1 coin token on shanty library too. I'm of the opinion that infinite combos should be avoided as much as possible (the ones that exist usually require 5 or more fairly specific cards)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3576 on: September 21, 2019, 10:40:33 pm »
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Shanty Library
cost $2 - Action
+1 Card
Put this into your hand.
If this is the first time you played Shanty Library, +2 Actions.
Revised a card named Animal Trail from https://s456.hatenablog.com/entry/2019/08/29/171427 .
It converts Actions to Cards.
Super strong? Maybe yes, but the second Shanty Library in hand will be useless. Not broken.
Super strong with Champion? Of course yes!

You really should try to avoid putting cards back into your hand (or discarding them) after playing them. You even mention that champion + this provides infinite draw (an infinite combo with only 2 cards), but imagine if you have your +1 coin token on shanty library too. I'm of the opinion that infinite combos should be avoided as much as possible (the ones that exist usually require 5 or more fairly specific cards)

Champion is broken anyway. I don't think anyone should change their fan card ideas because of an interaction with one or two official cards. Just don't put those two cards in the same kingdom.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3577 on: September 22, 2019, 02:53:57 am »
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Shanty Library
cost $2 - Action
+1 Card
Put this into your hand.
If this is the first time you played Shanty Library, +2 Actions.
Revised a card named Animal Trail from https://s456.hatenablog.com/entry/2019/08/29/171427 .
It converts Actions to Cards.
Super strong? Maybe yes, but the second Shanty Library in hand will be useless. Not broken.
Super strong with Champion? Of course yes!

You really should try to avoid putting cards back into your hand (or discarding them) after playing them. You even mention that champion + this provides infinite draw (an infinite combo with only 2 cards), but imagine if you have your +1 coin token on shanty library too. I'm of the opinion that infinite combos should be avoided as much as possible (the ones that exist usually require 5 or more fairly specific cards)

Champion is broken anyway. I don't think anyone should change their fan card ideas because of an interaction with one or two official cards. Just don't put those two cards in the same kingdom.

I disagree. An interaction between your card and an official card is a very good reason to refine your card. Donald X. did it to masquerade because of an interaction between it and KC and Goons.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3578 on: September 22, 2019, 03:11:03 am »
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There's a lots of stuff going on with Goons Masquerade, this would definitely be a closer case. 

I think I agree it's a perverse enough interaction to warrant a change though.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3579 on: September 22, 2019, 12:50:55 pm »
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Here's my card


I just want to ask Commodore Chuckles whether this follows the rules. It doesn't technically have +action, but it is a TR variant.

I was trying to decide on the cost (between 6 and 7). I think the +card before the TR is super helpful. It pretty much prevents it from being drawn dead (like getting 3 KC and no other actions).
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3580 on: September 22, 2019, 07:19:45 pm »
+3

Here's my card


I just want to ask Commodore Chuckles whether this follows the rules. It doesn't technically have +action, but it is a TR variant.

I was trying to decide on the cost (between 6 and 7). I think the +card before the TR is super helpful. It pretty much prevents it from being drawn dead (like getting 3 KC and no other actions).

Royal Carriage and Crown are TR variants that (mostly) can't whiff for $5. "Cantrip or Throne Room" was an outtake for $4 when Throne Room was $3.

+1 Card Throne Room is probably fine at $5.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3581 on: September 22, 2019, 07:44:39 pm »
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Here's my card


I just want to ask Commodore Chuckles whether this follows the rules. It doesn't technically have +action, but it is a TR variant.

I was trying to decide on the cost (between 6 and 7). I think the +card before the TR is super helpful. It pretty much prevents it from being drawn dead (like getting 3 KC and no other actions).

Royal Carriage and Crown are TR variants that (mostly) can't whiff for $5. "Cantrip or Throne Room" was an outtake for $4 when Throne Room was $3.

+1 Card Throne Room is probably fine at $5.

$5 seems way too cheap. Remember it synergizes with itself. Since most parades will be paraded it's going to be better than a lab.

Think of it this way: if you had a parade and 2 smithies in hand, would you rather have another parade or a lab (extra parade means you draw 15 cards, vs labs 11 cards).

Parade will mostly be better than crown and Royal carriage putting it at at least $6. I put it at 7 since the +card is before throning making it much easier to utilize the throning to it's full potential.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3582 on: September 22, 2019, 11:27:57 pm »
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Here's my card


I just want to ask Commodore Chuckles whether this follows the rules. It doesn't technically have +action, but it is a TR variant.

I was trying to decide on the cost (between 6 and 7). I think the +card before the TR is super helpful. It pretty much prevents it from being drawn dead (like getting 3 KC and no other actions).

Yes, I'll accept this. The important thing is that it does not have guaranteed +Action.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3583 on: September 23, 2019, 12:08:33 am »
+2

Here's my card


I just want to ask Commodore Chuckles whether this follows the rules. It doesn't technically have +action, but it is a TR variant.

I was trying to decide on the cost (between 6 and 7). I think the +card before the TR is super helpful. It pretty much prevents it from being drawn dead (like getting 3 KC and no other actions).

Royal Carriage and Crown are TR variants that (mostly) can't whiff for $5. "Cantrip or Throne Room" was an outtake for $4 when Throne Room was $3.

+1 Card Throne Room is probably fine at $5.

$5 seems way too cheap. Remember it synergizes with itself. Since most parades will be paraded it's going to be better than a lab.

Think of it this way: if you had a parade and 2 smithies in hand, would you rather have another parade or a lab (extra parade means you draw 15 cards, vs labs 11 cards).

Parade will mostly be better than crown and Royal carriage putting it at at least $6. I put it at 7 since the +card is before throning making it much easier to utilize the throning to it's full potential.

I think is probably the best price for it. It just feels wrong to me to price it at the same cost as King's Court.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3584 on: September 23, 2019, 09:06:48 am »
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Here's my card


I just want to ask Commodore Chuckles whether this follows the rules. It doesn't technically have +action, but it is a TR variant.

I was trying to decide on the cost (between 6 and 7). I think the +card before the TR is super helpful. It pretty much prevents it from being drawn dead (like getting 3 KC and no other actions).

Yes, I'll accept this. The important thing is that it does not have guaranteed +Action.

How is the +Action not guaranteed? If it said play a card once, instead of twice, would that qualify? If so, what's the difference between that and just saying +1 Action? I don't have a problem with this card qualifying, but I don't follow the reasoning.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3585 on: September 23, 2019, 04:39:13 pm »
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How is the +Action not guaranteed? If it said play a card once, instead of twice, would that qualify? If so, what's the difference between that and just saying +1 Action? I don't have a problem with this card qualifying, but I don't follow the reasoning.
Technically it is not the same, as sometimes Actions swallowed through to the Buy phase can be reused (Diadem, Villa)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3586 on: September 23, 2019, 06:41:20 pm »
+1

Okay, after thinking about this some more, I'm afraid I am going to have to reject the card as it currently stands. I'm very sorry naitchman, and I feel especially bad about this as you were the one who gave me the win in the last contest. But in the end, the point of the challenge is to make a card that does something usually considered awkward (drawing a single card and not letting you play it if it's an Action card.) Parade can always play an Action card if there's one in your hand, so the challenge simply isn't there.

I'm not rejecting the idea outright; I'll accept it if the ability to Throne is based on some condition that's not always met (besides an Action card being in your hand, of course.)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3587 on: September 23, 2019, 08:09:57 pm »
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Okay, after thinking about this some more, I'm afraid I am going to have to reject the card as it currently stands. I'm very sorry naitchman, and I feel especially bad about this as you were the one who gave me the win in the last contest. But in the end, the point of the challenge is to make a card that does something usually considered awkward (drawing a single card and not letting you play it if it's an Action card.) Parade can always play an Action card if there's one in your hand, so the challenge simply isn't there.

I'm not rejecting the idea outright; I'll accept it if the ability to Throne is based on some condition that's not always met (besides an Action card being in your hand, of course.)

It's cool. guess, I'll need to think of something quick.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3588 on: September 23, 2019, 09:18:40 pm »
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Ok, new card:

The +1 card doesn't hurt since you can reorder and choose what you draw. Thus if you have no actions, you can topdeck a treasure and draw it.

Started out closer to navigator +1 card, but then needed to make a few tweaks. What do you guys think of the price/ number of cards inspected? Should either of those be tweaked?

Update: Added +coin
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3589 on: September 23, 2019, 11:38:47 pm »
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Ok, new card:

The +1 card doesn't hurt since you can reorder and choose what you draw. Thus if you have no actions, you can topdeck a treasure and draw it.

Started out closer to navigator +1 card, but then needed to make a few tweaks. What do you guys think of the price/ number of cards inspected? Should either of those be tweaked?
Looks good, but I think it should cost , maybe even . It's a lot like a card from my fan expansion, Minor, which costs , but also gives +.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3590 on: September 24, 2019, 09:09:30 am »
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agree with LibraryAdventurer that Pioneer should probably cost $3; however why not go back and do the Conclave thing on Parade? something like "You may reveal an Action card from your hand that you don't have a copy of in play. If you do, play it twice." sort of adds to the whole "variety" type theme of parade/cornucopia-style cards.

(side note to Cdre. Chuckles: Would that be sufficient barrier to the "No Plus Actions" rule?)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3591 on: September 24, 2019, 10:52:29 am »
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My submission. It is a cheap Witch in the vein of sea hag or young Witch.

Masked Witch (€4, Action/Attack/Looter)
+1 Card
Play the top card of the Ruins pile, leaving it there. Each other player gains a Curse.
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When you gain this, gain a Ruins.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3592 on: September 24, 2019, 11:17:49 am »
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I think Pioneer is just a better card than Parade anyway.  I think doubler cards are more interesting when they remain totally dependent on their targets, and making a doubler card with any of the vanilla bonuses, but +Card especially, takes away from that.  Royal Carriage, Procession, King's Court, and Ghost all put some twist on Throne Room that doesn't really free it from dependence on its targets. 

Ghost, Procession, and Royal Carriage all put some twist on the question "is Throne Room good here?" that makes it slightly tricker, except maybe in the case of Royal Carriage where it is somewhat easier (don't want to spend 5$ on something for it to spend all game on your tavern mat though).  Deciding whether Parade will be good enough will probably be easier most of the time because Parade Parade collisions usually dig into an action to play and even when they don't they cycle your deck forward to the next iteration where you've cut your disaster risk even lower with your purchases.


On the other hand, Pioneer, which I think seems best at 2, seems like a very interesting card to me.  I mean.  It's Scout with +1 Card instead of +1 Action.  Isn't it?  I love me some Scout man! But seriously, aside from filling the hole in my heart from the lover I never want to forget, Pioneer offers a way to avoid buying a Silver that you know is slightly better than Pioneer right now and will be worse than Pioneer later.  You'll often get to put a Silver on top and draw it, the times you can't, the Silver is probably already in your hand, and you can discard all the looks to cycle that Silver into the reshuffle faster.  In the early game, you buy Pioneer as a pseudosilver to ensure you keep hitting 5$ consistently to buy some key 5$ card a lot.  In the midgame you buy an extra village to pair with the Pioneer so that Pioneer is no worse than Great Hall, maybe a little better if trashing has been a slow process.  (Note that buying an extra village doesn't make a Silver stop being a stop card.  Buying a village and connecting with it make Pioneer a nonstop card that occasionally snipes a stop card).  In the late game when you are forced to have provinces in your deck, this can just be a Smithy! (Not an exciting ending to the story if this stays at 4$ but exciting if its price is adjusted down.)

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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3593 on: September 24, 2019, 12:03:42 pm »
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Okay, after thinking about this some more, I'm afraid I am going to have to reject the card as it currently stands. I'm very sorry naitchman, and I feel especially bad about this as you were the one who gave me the win in the last contest. But in the end, the point of the challenge is to make a card that does something usually considered awkward (drawing a single card and not letting you play it if it's an Action card.) Parade can always play an Action card if there's one in your hand, so the challenge simply isn't there.

I'm not rejecting the idea outright; I'll accept it if the ability to Throne is based on some condition that's not always met (besides an Action card being in your hand, of course.)

Given the new rules, does Escort still qualify?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18987.msg811130#msg811130
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3594 on: September 24, 2019, 01:32:44 pm »
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THIS ENTRY HAS BEEN REVOKED



Here's my attempt. Not sure if card-shaped things are allowed, but here it is.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3595 on: September 24, 2019, 04:26:17 pm »
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My submission. It is a cheap Witch in the vein of sea hag or young Witch.

Masked Witch (€4, Action/Attack/Looter)
+1 Card
Play the Ruins that is in the supply, leaving it there. Each other player gains a Curse.
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When you gain this, gain a Ruins.

I would reword this to something like "Play the top card of the Ruins pile, leaving it there."
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3596 on: September 24, 2019, 04:42:40 pm »
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Not sure if this is legal part 2.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3597 on: September 24, 2019, 04:47:32 pm »
+1

Gremlin $4
Action-Attack
+1 Card
If you have 5 or fewer cards in hand (after drawing), +2 Cards. Otherwise, each other player gains a Curse.


Really hard for me to decide between $4 and $5.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3598 on: September 24, 2019, 05:47:36 pm »
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My submission. It is a cheap Witch in the vein of sea hag or young Witch.

Masked Witch (€4, Action/Attack/Looter)
+1 Card
Play the Ruins that is in the supply, leaving it there. Each other player gains a Curse.
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When you gain this, gain a Ruins.

I would reword this to something like "Play the top card of the Ruins pile, leaving it there."

Thanks. I'll reword it.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« Reply #3599 on: September 24, 2019, 07:53:22 pm »
+1

agree with LibraryAdventurer that Pioneer should probably cost $3; however why not go back and do the Conclave thing on Parade? something like "You may reveal an Action card from your hand that you don't have a copy of in play. If you do, play it twice." sort of adds to the whole "variety" type theme of parade/cornucopia-style cards.

(side note to Cdre. Chuckles: Would that be sufficient barrier to the "No Plus Actions" rule?)

Yes, I would accept that.

Given the new rules, does Escort still qualify?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18987.msg811130#msg811130

Since there isn't guaranteed to a card in your discard pile, yes it still does.



Here's my attempt. Not sure if card-shaped things are allowed, but here it is.

I'm afraid not. I explicitly stated in the OP that only Action cards are allowed.
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