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Pandemic Legacy (probably will have spoilers)
« on: September 04, 2018, 10:04:38 am »
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The hard part about playing Pandemic Legacy Season 2 (and I'm this holds true for Season 1 as well) is that the ideal state to play this game is to lose the first game of each month. This lets you spend two games per month building up the game board.

But losses can be nasty, so I've taken to seeking either a win or a good loss. A good loss is what I call a game where we made more progress than we lost.

I'm not going to be able to convince my group that losing is good though.
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Re: Pandemic Legacy (spoiler-free zone)
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2018, 10:09:33 am »
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The hard part about playing Pandemic Legacy Season 2 (and I'm this holds true for Season 1 as well) is that the ideal state to play this game is to lose the first game of each month. This lets you spend two games per month building up the game board.

But losses can be nasty, so I've taken to seeking either a win or a good loss. A good loss is what I call a game where we made more progress than we lost.

I'm not going to be able to convince my group that losing is good though.

We played season 1 with Qvist, Watno and RTT and I think we lost only 4 times? And it never was intended, we tried to win every time. And every loss was due to massive unluck of my hand :c

Anyway yeah, if you lose every first game you probably is in a best position. But iirc this strips you of some final points? I don't know if this matters.

Sorry for spoilahs
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Re: Pandemic Legacy (spoiler-free zone)
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2018, 10:30:24 am »
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Well, taking a calculated loss always extends the game, and thus increases the chance that something awful will happen before that game is over. I suppose sometimes you are in a position where you can control that, but most of the time I'd argue not.

I have more thoughts but I find it quite hard to express them without spoilers.
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Re: Pandemic Legacy (spoiler-free zone)
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2018, 10:32:12 am »
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You could also argue that losing is good because it allows you to play the game more... better value for the purchase.

I played through Season 1 a couple years ago and loved it. Just finally bought Season 2 recently; haven't started it yet.
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Re: Pandemic Legacy (spoiler-free zone)
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2018, 01:37:50 pm »
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You could also argue that losing is good because it allows you to play the game more... better value for the purchase.

I played through Season 1 a couple years ago and loved it. Just finally bought Season 2 recently; haven't started it yet.

I kind of feel that way about maximizing value of a legacy game. I feel like I'd want to get 24 games regardless. And I think I'd be willing to embrace that despite LaLight's spoiler.

Season 2 is definitely interesting. It has the very basics of Pandemic, but it's just so different. I haven't played S1, but I'm familiar with Pandemic, and S2 is like Pandemic played in reverse. The discoveries are fun.

People have said it's not as good as S1, but that's like saying lobster is not as good as filet mignon.
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Re: Pandemic Legacy (spoiler-free zone)
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2018, 03:54:49 pm »
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My group found each play through  to be either quite easy or an old fashioned Pandemic beating with early exploding epidemics. Failing any play through just gives the game another chance to turn nasty on you.
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Re: Pandemic Legacy (spoiler-free zone)
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2018, 04:15:53 pm »
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People have said it's not as good as S1, but that's like saying lobster is not as good as filet mignon.
That reference is lost on me... but I actually enjoy S2 more than I did S1 so far (and I did enjoy S1 a lot). We're in October of S2.
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Re: Pandemic Legacy (spoiler-free zone)
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2018, 04:23:24 pm »
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People have said it's not as good as S1, but that's like saying lobster is not as good as filet mignon.
That reference is lost on me... but I actually enjoy S2 more than I did S1 so far (and I did enjoy S1 a lot). We're in October of S2.

Just saying that S2 is pretty good. People saying it's worse than S1, which is already a highly acclaimed game, is not indicative of S2 being a bad game.
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Re: Pandemic Legacy (probably will have spoilers)
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2018, 11:00:44 am »
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So I finished my game of S2 and posted my thoughts here:
https://boardgamegeek.com/article/30344898

Or if you know you're not going to play and don't mind spoilers. Your call. I'm not the Morality Police.

But I had a blast. Kind of sad that it's gone. I mean, I could buy a new copy and play again. It could be an interesting exercise in trying to win the first time in each month since I know where exactly to beeline. And it would be interesting to revisit the strategy of Box 6, which as a Dominion fan, I simply loved. Playing anew with this information means I would make the route from Utopia to Kolkata much more efficient.

Maybe if I get a copy of S2 for cheap (or a partially started one from someone who gave up), it would be a fun little exercise. Otherwise, I don't really want to buy a game with the intent of playing it as little as possible.
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Re: Pandemic Legacy (probably will have spoilers)
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2018, 03:10:13 pm »
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We're a bit over halfway through.  I'm not sure losing intentionally is an optimal strategy; building up the board too much (by spending the extra time doing so) also makes future games harder (resources spread thin, harder to finish some objectives.  But time will tell; we've had a few devastating losses, including at least one where game setup took longer than game play.
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