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[Hydrad]

Hydrad, would claiming your flavor be useful?

I really don't know if it would help/hurt since I don't know the flavor at all

I don't think I should claim my flavor today. Tommorow I think I could but I don't think I should here.

I would be okay with a mass claim.

I’m Hydrad’s partner.

I believe both of them primarily because of this. Morgrim claimed Detective Zimmerfield D1. His partner is Detective Estevez. Had Hydrad claimed such yesterday, it would’ve outted Morgrim yesterday, something he was trying not to do - especially with Morgrim being MIA and not being able to chime in.

For this to be faked, it would’ve needed to be planned from D1 with Morgrim’s claim.

and ya I guess i should confirm.

I am Estevez. I had a feeling someone would figure it out even if i died last night so thats partially why i didn't think claiming was a huge deal yesterday either.

[SpaceAnemone]

@gkreig, are you really certain we have an SK in a game with a known third-alignment player, and two flipped players with town-death as parts of their roles?

I'm coming at that question from three angles:

1. Is there something that makes you certain there's an SK?

2. Don't you think it's kind of unbalanced to make 4 scum in 13, and then give town so many additional ways to die?

3. Are you saying that you think the existing weak visitor and weak hider deaths are not related to the roles, but to an NK/SK instead?

[SpaceAnemone]

Does anyone other than Swan think that silver wasn't clearly breadcrumbing Swan at the end of D2?

[gkrieg13]

@gkreig, are you really certain we have an SK in a game with a known third-alignment player, and two flipped players with town-death as parts of their roles?

I'm coming at that question from three angles:

1. Is there something that makes you certain there's an SK?

2. Don't you think it's kind of unbalanced to make 4 scum in 13, and then give town so many additional ways to die?

3. Are you saying that you think the existing weak visitor and weak hider deaths are not related to the roles, but to an NK/SK instead?

I hadn't realized that silver had something that he could die with.  I agree with your points above actually.  I need to go back and reread.

[SpaceAnemone]

Ah, we were 14 to begin with, not 13. But three mafia, a survivor and at least two townies with death-causing roles seems quite enough to erode our numbers even without an SK.

I'm trying to think of a plausible set of townies from S1 that wouldn't include having Zimmerfield and Estevez, and it seems unlikely, so reluctantly I think I'm going to give Morgrim and Hydrad a pass for the day.

[Hydrad]

Does anyone other than Swan think that silver wasn't clearly breadcrumbing Swan at the end of D2?

I think he was breadcrumbing it.

But from the wording of his role it sounds like there was only like a 25% chance that he would get that role that he breadcrumbed. Because until the night started he wouldn't know what power he had right?

[Hydrad]

gkreig. I don't know if you think you should say or not. Do you know why you can't vote or did you at least choose to have that happen? or was it unexpected.

[Galzria]

gkreig. I don't know if you think you should say or not. Do you know why you can't vote or did you at least choose to have that happen? or was it unexpected.

I doubt it was entirely unexpected - he said D2 that he had a voting mechanic restriction as part of his role.

[Galzria]

Test vote: Gkrieg

[EFHW]

@gkreig, are you really certain we have an SK in a game with a known third-alignment player, and two flipped players with town-death as parts of their roles?

I'm coming at that question from three angles:

1. Is there something that makes you certain there's an SK?

2. Don't you think it's kind of unbalanced to make 4 scum in 13, and then give town so many additional ways to die?

3. Are you saying that you think the existing weak visitor and weak hider deaths are not related to the roles, but to an NK/SK instead?

I hadn't realized that silver had something that he could die with.  I agree with your points above actually.  I need to go back and reread.

How did you not realize that with all this discussion?

[EFHW]

Does anyone other than Swan think that silver wasn't clearly breadcrumbing Swan at the end of D2?

I think he was breadcrumbing it.

But from the wording of his role it sounds like there was only like a 25% chance that he would get that role that he breadcrumbed. Because until the night started he wouldn't know what power he had right?

This 25% weak visitor is really quite weak.

[EFHW]

I reread DatSwan. Will type it up tomorrow. Nothing earthshattering in it.

[gkrieg13]

gkreig. I don't know if you think you should say or not. Do you know why you can't vote or did you at least choose to have that happen? or was it unexpected.

100% knew it was a possibility. Like most roles, it had some percentage of happening.

[gkrieg13]

Masons have high likelihood of being town because of Morgrims strange voting D2

[Galzria]

Vote count 3.1

EFHW (1): chairs
chairs (1): EFHW
DatSwan (1): SpaceAnemone
gkrieg13 (1): DatSwan
Not voting (3): Galzria, Hydrad, Morgrim7

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 3 ends Saturday, 6th of October, at 5am

Interesting. Noted that Gkrieg is still a viable voting candidate. I missed this VC before my test vote.

[chairs]

I, for one, firmly believe the Mason claim.

[Swowl]

Vote count 3.1

EFHW (1): chairs
chairs (1): EFHW
DatSwan (1): SpaceAnemone
gkrieg13 (1): DatSwan
Not voting (3): Galzria, Hydrad, Morgrim7

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 3 ends Saturday, 6th of October, at 5am

Interesting. Noted that Gkrieg is still a viable voting candidate. I missed this VC before my test vote.

Thats why I picked him

[Galzria]

I hesitantly think we should strongly consider mass claim at this point. We could very easily be at LyLo, and right now I think getting as much information out as possible is in our best interest. I’m also going to run some VCA tonight/tomorrow to see if anyone jumps out at me.

[Galzria]

Vote count 3.1

EFHW (1): chairs
chairs (1): EFHW
DatSwan (1): SpaceAnemone
gkrieg13 (1): DatSwan
Not voting (3): Galzria, Hydrad, Morgrim7

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 3 ends Saturday, 6th of October, at 5am

Interesting. Noted that Gkrieg is still a viable voting candidate. I missed this VC before my test vote.

Thats why I picked him

Me too! I just missed the VC.

I’m still gonna leave my vote there to try and make sure that I’m in control of it.

[Galzria]

Damn dirty iPhone makes phone posting WAY more inconvenient than Android. Just saying.

[Swowl]

Does anyone other than Swan think that silver wasn't clearly breadcrumbing Swan at the end of D2?

I think he was breadcrumbing it.

But from the wording of his role it sounds like there was only like a 25% chance that he would get that role that he breadcrumbed. Because until the night started he wouldn't know what power he had right?

This 25% weak visitor is really quite weak.

Weak as in you think my pointing it out is weak or weak as in something else. Because actually, I am gonna point out my own logic flaw here... if you knew that you only had one visiting role and it was WV then it wouldn't matter - SS would of breadcrumbed anyways I suppose given how they flipped.

[Swowl]

@ Masons - You were both on Awaclus lynch Day 1. You must of talked about it. What was the deciding factor to vote there for you?

[Hydrad]

@ Masons - You were both on Awaclus lynch Day 1. You must of talked about it. What was the deciding factor to vote there for you?

I'll be honest there isn't a ton of talking that we are doing. I think I need to be talking in it more.

Personally my vote for it was there was a couple hours till deadline and I wasn't going to be on at deadline and the only other potential was maybe silver but it felt far away? I guess I could have left it on silver instead when I went to sleep but they are both town now so I guess either way my choice was bad there.

[Swowl]

I was blocked last night most likely.

why?

[Morgrim7]

@ Masons - You were both on Awaclus lynch Day 1. You must of talked about it. What was the deciding factor to vote there for you?

We actually didn’t talk about it much. For my part, I had a short list of people I was okay with lynching and Awaclus happened to be on that list.

I think we need to revisit the D1 wagons though, because they tend to leave scum and hop on town at the last minute. Which means we should look at people like chairs.