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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #600 on: September 25, 2018, 09:54:43 pm »

chairs seems town to me, very similar to his recent NM game.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #601 on: September 25, 2018, 10:11:22 pm »


Unvote

Sorry, I forgot about the test vote from before.

If Morgrim vote is loopy because he’s been swapped, he’s probably town. And if his vote is being put on silver, he’s likely town as well.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #602 on: September 25, 2018, 10:29:25 pm »

Also we only have until tomorrow really to lynch.  No one has responded to anything I said about silver, which makes me not want to do other targeted rereads.

I am currently voting Silver, and for different reasons than you’ve given. I believe that without having to explicitly state these reasons that they should be clear to anybody that takes a moment to evaluate everything that’s been said,claimed and done. This is relevant only because I believe that stating these reasons would -probably- be anti-town... especially as it’s not actually my place to expand on them. If I need to in order to help get the lynch through then I will. Otherwise, I simply encourage rereading everyone, evaluating what you’ve read, and then voting Silver.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #603 on: September 25, 2018, 11:49:31 pm »

Also we only have until tomorrow really to lynch.  No one has responded to anything I said about silver, which makes me not want to do other targeted rereads.

I am currently voting Silver, and for different reasons than you’ve given. I believe that without having to explicitly state these reasons that they should be clear to anybody that takes a moment to evaluate everything that’s been said,claimed and done. This is relevant only because I believe that stating these reasons would -probably- be anti-town... especially as it’s not actually my place to expand on them. If I need to in order to help get the lynch through then I will. Otherwise, I simply encourage rereading everyone, evaluating what you’ve read, and then voting Silver.

You do the [reasons] thing too much to make this statement. I am not calling you skummy for it, and I understand the value in what you are suggesting in this post... but you should accept the... "paranoia" it creates for the rest of us. Reason being that if it is so obvious that everyone should see it... then skum sees it too, so what is the downside of putting it on the table if you already expect everyone to know the answer? Keep in mind, I only speak for me here, and I COMPLETELY accept that it is likely that I am just being a dodo and am like the only one that does not get it.

Additionally, as you stated, I assume if the reasons were necessary to get a lynch off you assume to be correct... that you would in fact divulge them.

Now all of that is assuming you are Town. And as I am town reading you at this point I guess I will get on board.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #604 on: September 25, 2018, 11:52:26 pm »


Unvote

Sorry, I forgot about the test vote from before.

If Morgrim vote is loopy because he’s been swapped, he’s probably town. And if his vote is being put on silver, he’s likely town as well.

You posted something else like this earlier as well...

1) Town points to WCD as I don't think they would make this point multiple times as skum, and they also probably truley believe it is an accurate statement.

2) WCD - We are playing with fucking magicians. If you are town then it is almost GTD that there is at least a decade of experience under the belt of the skum team. Assume that they have mapped out some shit. For reference, look at the game we just finished. I am NOT saying you must be wrong, I am just saying that you shouldn't dismiss it as an option.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #605 on: September 26, 2018, 12:06:09 am »

Gonna do this so it is on public record. Starting at VC 1.5 where I found the first error.

VC 1.5
Morgrim7 (1):, SpaceAnemone
iguanaiguana (1): Hydrad
EFHW (1): gkrieg13
WestCoastDidds (2): iguanaiguana, chairs
silverspawn (4): Awaclus, Morgrim7, 2.71828....., EFHW
Galzria (1): DatSwan
ashersky (1): silverspawn
2.71828..... (1): WestCoastDidds
Not voting (2): Galzria, ashersky

EFHW is correctly on silver.
2.7 is correctly on silver.
WCD is correctly on 2.7
SS is correctly on Ashes
Morgrim is correctly on silver.
Swan is correctly on Galz.
Awaclus is correctly on silver.
Chairs is correctly on silver.
Iguana is correctly on WCD.
Space is correctly on Morgrim.
GK is correctly on EFHW.
Galz and Ashes both not voting and had not voted.
Hydrad votes WCD in 259. Instead he is on Iguana.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #606 on: September 26, 2018, 12:10:36 am »

VC 1.6
Morgrim7 (1):, SpaceAnemone
WestCoastDidds (1): Hydrad
silverspawn (5): Awaclus, 2.71828....., EFHW, chairs, gkrieg13
Galzria (1): DatSwan
ashersky (1): silverspawn
2.71828..... (1): WestCoastDidds
SpaceAnemone (1): iguanaiguana
chairs (1): Morgrim7
Not voting (2): Galzria, ashersky

Chairs moves to silver
Igu moves to Space
Morgrim votes Chairs
Hydrad moves to WCD
GK moves to silver
Everything seems to be in order
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #607 on: September 26, 2018, 12:12:32 am »

VC 1.7
Morgrim7 (1):, SpaceAnemone
WestCoastDidds (1): Hydrad
silverspawn (5): Awaclus, 2.71828....., EFHW, chairs, gkrieg13
Galzria (1): DatSwan
chairs (4): Morgrim7, silverspawn, WestCoastDidds, iguanaiguana
Not voting (2): Galzria, ashersky

Silver votes Chairs
WCD votes Chairs
Igu votes Chairs
Everything checks out.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #608 on: September 26, 2018, 12:14:31 am »

VC 1.8
Morgrim7 (1):, SpaceAnemone
WestCoastDidds (1): Hydrad
silverspawn (3): Awaclus, EFHW, gkrieg13
Galzria (1): DatSwan
chairs (4): Morgrim7, silverspawn, WestCoastDidds, iguanaiguana
Hydrad (3): Galzria, chairs, 2.71828.....
Not voting (1): ashersky

Galz votes Hydrad.
Chairs votes Hydrad
2.7 votes Hydrad
Everything checks out.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #609 on: September 26, 2018, 12:22:35 am »

VC 1.9
Morgrim7 (1): SpaceAnemone
silverspawn (3): Awaclus, EFHW, gkrieg13
Galzria (1): DatSwan
chairs (1): Hydrad
Awaclus (7): iguanaiguana, Galzria, silverspawn, chairs, Morgrim7, WestCoastDidds, 2.71828.....
Not voting (1): ashersky
Hydrad votes Chairs
Igu votes Awaclus
Galz votes Awaclus
SS votes Awaclus
Chairs votes Awaclus
Swan unvotes – Ended up being on Galz still.
Morgrim votes Awaclus
WCD votes Awaclus
2.7 votes Awaclus

Swan unvote was not registered.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #610 on: September 26, 2018, 12:24:07 am »

Day 1 Final VC
Morgrim7 (1): SpaceAnemone
silverspawn (3): Awaclus, EFHW, gkrieg13
Galzria (1): DatSwan
Awaclus (8): iguanaiguana, Galzria, silverspawn, chairs, Morgrim7, WestCoastDidds, 2.71828....., Hydrad
Not voting (1): ashersky

Hydrad votes for Awaclus
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #611 on: September 26, 2018, 12:28:39 am »

So Day 1 there are two issues I see:

1) Hydrad votes WCD in 259. Instead he ends up on Iguana.

2) My unvote from Galz did not register.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #612 on: September 26, 2018, 12:29:18 am »

OK thats day 1.
Taking a break to play PUBG :P

Will finish Day 2 and post in a bit.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #613 on: September 26, 2018, 12:37:28 am »

correction in 1.3 Ashes tries to vote Igu and it does not register also.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #614 on: September 26, 2018, 03:57:10 am »

VC 2.1
silverspawn (1): gkrieg13
WestCoastDidds (1): silverspawn
Not voting (9): Galzria, SpaceAnemone, EFHW, DatSwan, Hydrad, Morgrim7, chairs, 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds

GK votes silver
SS votes WCD
Morgrim votes silver

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #615 on: September 26, 2018, 04:00:18 am »

VC 2.2

silverspawn (2): gkrieg13, Galzria
WestCoastDidds (1): silverspawn
Morgrim7 (2): chairs, SpaceAnemone
2.71828..... (1): EFHW
Not voting (5): DatSwan, Hydrad, Morgrim7, 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds


Chairs votes for Morgrim
Galz votes for silver
Space votes for Morgrim
EFHW votes for 2.7

Everything checks out. Morgrim is still not voting for silverspawn.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #616 on: September 26, 2018, 04:06:49 am »

VC 2.3 is directly after VC 2.2 - MOD posted because Galz bringz up "did you not see the Morgrim vote on silverspawn". MOD also notes that Swan's vote previously dictated in my wall post's was in fact a MISTAKE.



VC 2.4

silverspawn (2): gkrieg13, Galzria
WestCoastDidds (2): silverspawn, Hydrad
Morgrim7 (1): chairs
Galzria (2): SpaceAnemone, DatSwan
SpaceAnemone (1): EFHW
DatSwan (1): WestCoastDidds
Hydrad (1): Morgrim7
Not voting (1): 2.71828.....

Space votes Galz
EFHW votes Space
WCD votes Swan
Swan Votes Galz
Hydrad votes WCD

Everything checks out.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #617 on: September 26, 2018, 04:11:15 am »

VC 2.5

silverspawn (3): gkrieg13, Galzria, Morgrim7
WestCoastDidds (2): silverspawn, Hydrad
Galzria (2): SpaceAnemone, DatSwan
DatSwan (1): WestCoastDidds
Not voting (3): 2.71828....., chairs, EFHW
Chairs Unvotes
EFHW Unvotes
Morgrim Unvotes – No. Morgrim switches to silverspawn.

Difference is that Morgrim tries to unvote Hydrad, but instead votes silverspawn.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #618 on: September 26, 2018, 04:14:31 am »

VC 2.6

?????

Morgrim Unvotes
WCD Unvotes
Swan Votes silverspawn

Do not yet know what took and didn't take vote-wise.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #619 on: September 26, 2018, 04:21:09 am »

VC 2.3 is directly after VC 2.2 - MOD posted because Galz bringz up "did you not see the Morgrim vote on silverspawn". MOD also notes that Swan's vote previously dictated in my wall post's was in fact a MISTAKE.



VC 2.4

silverspawn (2): gkrieg13, Galzria
WestCoastDidds (2): silverspawn, Hydrad
Morgrim7 (1): chairs
Galzria (2): SpaceAnemone, DatSwan
SpaceAnemone (1): EFHW
DatSwan (1): WestCoastDidds
Hydrad (1): Morgrim7
Not voting (1): 2.71828.....

Space votes Galz
EFHW votes Space
WCD votes Swan
Swan Votes Galz
Hydrad votes WCD

Everything checks out.

Correction:
Morgrim votes for Hydrad and it registers.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #620 on: September 26, 2018, 04:46:57 am »

Swan unvote was not registered.

I already posted about this, and we have confirmation from LaLight back at post #530 that the unvote was not supposed to have been missed out.

I also posted about the Ash one at #146, but if there was another one with Hydrad then I missed it.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #621 on: September 26, 2018, 04:53:14 am »

Galz and gkrieg seem entrenched in their silver case.

I've left my "test vote" on Galz because I think he's being lazy about giving a good justification. Gkrieg is trying harder, at least, but I still don't think it's enough to go on.

I'm not saying I think silver is conf!town, but I'm saying I'm not interested in the cases on him today.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #622 on: September 26, 2018, 04:53:56 am »

When all is said and done, after the MOD has clarified on errors, we are left with:

- Day 1: Ashes tries to vote for Iguana and it doesn't register
- Day 1: Hydrad votes for WCD, but ends up voting for Iguana
- Coming up to 2.1:  Morgrim's vote on silverspawn does not register
- Coming up to 2.5: Morgrim tries to unvote Hydrad, but votes silverspawn


I am sure I am missing something here, so please help and point it out. However, acting under the assumption my posts are accurate we have 3 points to look at:

1) Ashes trying to vote for Iguana - They are both conf!town... so not really anything to be made of that other than they were probably not involved in the decision.
2) Hydrad tries to vote WCD, but ends up voting Iguana.
3) Morgrim tries to vote silverspawn, and eventually ends up on silverspawn. He does this by in the interim voting Hydrad, and when unvoting, ends up on silverspawn.

From point #1 we gain essentially nothing. There could be a theory about the two being unknowingly tied together as Town, but upon skimming the wiki page for the show.. I see nothing.
From point #2 we find a link between Hydrad, WCD, and Town!Iguana
From point #3 we find a link between Morgrim, silverspawn, and Hydrad.


The LCDs here are Hydrad and silverspawn. I have no freekin clue what the mechanic in play here is - but, given the information, I think we should lynch within Hydrad!SS. Specifically, I think we should lynch SS because if they flip town we will gain a ton of re-read information based on the fact this has been pretty much the only thing that has been talked about thus far.

That is what I got. Deadline is like 22 hours from now my time I think. I will not be here until the last 4-5 hours, but I should be here for the last 4-5 hours.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #623 on: September 26, 2018, 04:57:45 am »

Also we only have until tomorrow really to lynch.  No one has responded to anything I said about silver, which makes me not want to do other targeted rereads.

I am no-one?

I think your case was very weak, and that people should take this as weak evidence that I am in fact town. Which I am.

Lynching me without a case, which is what galz is suggesting, is outrageously anti-town. He basically said "the reasons are obv plx".

Listen dude. I would without hesitation bet money with you that the reasons are not obvious, in that most people would reread me and if they had to build a case wouldn't share y our reasons.

Also you're wrong.

Also you're anti town.

I suggest you unvote or write down your reasons so I can tell you why you're wrong.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #624 on: September 26, 2018, 04:59:29 am »

I think we should lynch within Hydrad!SS.

Come on this is not what ! means. You say property!player. If you say hydrad!ss it means ss (who is hydrad)
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