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[silverspawn]

I mean how do you think I would do it differently as town.

[SpaceAnemone]

I was hypothesizing based on the bodyguard component

Which bodyguard component?

The way I read the flips, there is no bodyguard. Iguana had a role where he was protected if he was in girl form and hid behind a townie, but he died if he hid behind a scum.

As for Ash -- the person you did your re-read on looking for bodyguard clues(?) -- the details of his role were redacted, so there's nothing there to say anything about bodyguarding there either.

Go back and look at ash’s flip again. I’m waiting.

Cool, that was what I was missing! Though a probable 1/4 chance of being a bodyguard (using equal probabilities given that the rest of the mechanism seems to have been in the redacted part) doesn't seem all that likely, so I still think it's weird to make that assumption for a re-read.

It could have been a good one to help in Galz's (I think it was Galz's.. too late at night for me to go trawling too much through old posts!) argument against my suggestion that Ash being the apparent NK target might mean something about the scumteam that picked him, if there's a bit of a chance that he wasn't the one scum picked.. nobody else brought that point up, though.

[chairs]

To be fair my read started as “why did they target ash” and then went “maybe they didn’t “ but I’m a little cantankerous

[silverspawn]

I think using a bodyguard action is a pretty bad idea – worse than not doing anything – so the prior of ash having used it should be lower than 1/4. And if he did, the chance for it to have killed him is quite small, too.

[SpaceAnemone]

I think using a bodyguard action is a pretty bad idea – worse than not doing anything – so the prior of ash having used it should be lower than 1/4. And if he did, the chance for it to have killed him is quite small, too.

We don't know whether it was a conscious choice, though. Iguana's power appears to have been a thing where he targeted someone and then at the end of the night he got told whether he'd been tracking or hiding, so it wouldn't be totally unbelievable for Ash's role to work in some kind of a similar way. Or maybe to be conditional on actions by other members of the Rowdy three or something, assuming more of them exist.

[Swowl]

I am still here sorry. Will put in work tomorrow. Had a hell of a weekend.

[LaLight]

Vote count 2.5

silverspawn (3): gkrieg13, Galzria, Morgrim7
WestCoastDidds (2): silverspawn, Hydrad
Galzria (2): SpaceAnemone, DatSwan
DatSwan (1): WestCoastDidds
Not voting (3): 2.71828....., chairs, EFHW

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 2 ends Thursday, 27th of September, at 4am

[SpaceAnemone]

Huh.. Morgrim's voting again, and he hasn't been active on the site for almost 12 hours.

Is it a bit bastard to allow one player to control another's votes, or do we think that's what's happening.

Could he be controlling them himself by QT, but at a delay because of timezones and our mod needing to be awake for vote counts to get posted?

[Morgrim7]

unvote

I didn’t vote for silverspawn on a QT or anywhere. I have no idea what is going on.

I have a huge presentation that I need to prepare for work by Friday. I’ll still have access but that’s gonna he taking up most of my time, so don’t expect too much content from me.

I’ll build my case against silver though because apparently that actually needed to happen. I think I need to reevaluate a few things now that I know my vote isn’t actually my vote, though.

[chairs]

Really sorry I haven’t been able to be active. Wtf at this morgrim vote thing. I don’t feel like morgrim comes off as a liar when he says he’s not controlling his vote though so I’m pretty firmly in the “has to be a scum trick” camp.

[Hydrad]

Ya I believe morgrim not controlling his vote. I mean why would he randomly show that he can't control it here at the start of the day where he doesn't gain anything.

[Hydrad]

I guess the one thing that there is a chance it could be is if ash is controlling it. That would be weird tho. But I don't even know how I could ask if it's ash controlling it without someone that's not ash being able to pretend it is ash

[chairs]

You mean dead ash?

[Hydrad]

You mean dead ash?

ya

[WestCoastDidds]

I agree that it is likely a scum trait, but it probably marks Morgrim has not scum. I'm still guessing that his soul (vote) is being swapped by scum, although it could be dead ash since he was redacted...and it does seem Rowdy-ish!

It is mos def weird, and I can't figure out how this helps us, although keeping an eye on who Morgrim's vote is being shifted to is likely insightful. Whoever is controlling it probably isn't using it to vote for themselves or their scum buddies, right?

[gkrieg13]

Part of my ability messes with my own vote, not with anyone else's.

[2.71828.....]

Sorry I have been absent. Will reread and post whatever I find tonight

[SpaceAnemone]

Wow, slow day.. only nine posts since my post this morning about Morgrim voting, and it's bedtime already.

I wonder whether the fact he appeared on a "Popular" wagon gives us any clue about whose puppet he is right now. Personally, I'm not quite a fan of the silver wagon yet.

[gkrieg13]

Wow, slow day.. only nine posts since my post this morning about Morgrim voting, and it's bedtime already.

I wonder whether the fact he appeared on a "Popular" wagon gives us any clue about whose puppet he is right now. Personally, I'm not quite a fan of the silver wagon yet.

Did you vote for galzria?

[gkrieg13]

Wow, slow day.. only nine posts since my post this morning about Morgrim voting, and it's bedtime already.

I wonder whether the fact he appeared on a "Popular" wagon gives us any clue about whose puppet he is right now. Personally, I'm not quite a fan of the silver wagon yet.

Did you vote for galzria?

Never mind, missed it the first time through.  Why are you still voting for galzria?  Do you have any scum reads?

[EFHW]

Part of my ability messes with my own vote, not with anyone else's.

If someone was "borrowing" your ability, would it have these effects?

[EFHW]

Now Morgrim is on silver, when before his vote on silver was ignored. There doesn't seem to be a pattern in the ways his vote is changed. This could be a game level thing, rather tham a person using an ability.

[Galzria]

I will get caught up tonight - weekends are always crazy time for me and then I picked up some classes yesterday that have thrown my whole schedule off... although this waking up at 5:00am to go swim thing that I've recently started probably hasn't helped either...

[gkrieg13]

Part of my ability messes with my own vote, not with anyone else's.

If someone was "borrowing" your ability, would it have these effects?

no

[gkrieg13]

Also we only have until tomorrow really to lynch.  No one has responded to anything I said about silver, which makes me not want to do other targeted rereads.