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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #525 on: September 23, 2018, 04:28:52 pm »

Lalight, should Morgrim's self vote have been part of vc 2.2? Was there a mod error?

As far as I have been told, your mod is an awesome guy who haven’t made any mistakes in this game so far.

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I'm interested in all this voting weirdness! You're doing it just so I can't use my automagic counting scripts to keep up with the game, aren't you? :-P

Anyway, now I've initialised my counter to work with the game, can I confirm a couple of discrepancies I've found in D1?
    1. Ash voted iguana at #146, but this wasn't reflected in Vote Count 1.3 at #176 (or for any of the remaining D1 vote counts, since he never moved his vote after that).
    2. Datswan's unvote at #393 wasn't counted in Vote Count 1.9 at #417 (he's shown as still voting Galz).

It might be useful to know for later whether that was a manifestation of early voting weirdness of the type we're now seeing with Morgrim.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #526 on: September 23, 2018, 05:03:24 pm »

I also had a vote that wasn't counted. I assumed it was because I said Tigger instead of WCD. During RVS.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #527 on: September 23, 2018, 05:06:54 pm »

Why did you do ashersky? He's dead!

Trying to get a feel for -why- he's dead.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #528 on: September 23, 2018, 05:24:37 pm »

unvote, although I don’t think it will do anything.

I have absolutely no idea why my vote doesn’t count or why I’m voting for myself. I’m not controlling it, that much is clear. I’m not sure
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #529 on: September 23, 2018, 05:28:28 pm »

I also had a vote that wasn't counted. I assumed it was because I said Tigger instead of WCD. During RVS.

Yes, but that one was ignored by my script as not being a sensible nickname :-)

The script also reports ignored votes for "everyone" and "LaLight"... but the vote and unvote that were missed seemed to be correctly formed, and while Ash's vote at #146 was for "igu", I already had that on my list of commonly-accepted IguanaIguana aliases, so I'd be surprised if the vote didn't count for that reason. OTOH, it was at the end of a longer post, with text following on from the vote, and that's a common situation for a vote to be missed in a manual count.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (N1)
« Reply #530 on: September 23, 2018, 05:49:12 pm »

Vote count 2.3

silverspawn (2): gkrieg13, Galzria
WestCoastDidds (1): silverspawn
Morgrim7 (2): chairs, SpaceAnemone
2.71828..... (1): EFHW
Not voting (5): DatSwan, Hydrad, 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds, Morgrim7

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Lalight, should Morgrim's self vote have been part of vc 2.2? Was there a mod error?

As far as I have been told, your mod is an awesome guy who haven’t made any mistakes in this game so far.

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I'm interested in all this voting weirdness! You're doing it just so I can't use my automagic counting scripts to keep up with the game, aren't you? :-P

Anyway, now I've initialised my counter to work with the game, can I confirm a couple of discrepancies I've found in D1?
    1. Ash voted iguana at #146, but this wasn't reflected in Vote Count 1.3 at #176 (or for any of the remaining D1 vote counts, since he never moved his vote after that).
    2. Datswan's unvote at #393 wasn't counted in Vote Count 1.9 at #417 (he's shown as still voting Galz).

It might be useful to know for later whether that was a manifestation of early voting weirdness of the type we're now seeing with Morgrim.

I ASSUME you're asking me, because you reply to my post, but please, bold it next time. DatSwan's unvote at #393 was overlooked. You precious mod does make mistakes apparently.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (N1)
« Reply #531 on: September 23, 2018, 05:56:14 pm »

I ASSUME you're asking me, because you reply to my post, but please, bold it next time. DatSwan's unvote at #393 was overlooked. You precious mod does make mistakes apparently.

Yes, sorry for forgetting the bold!

Are you confirming that Ash's vote at #146 was correctly-formed and deliberately didn't show up in the vote count?

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (N1)
« Reply #532 on: September 23, 2018, 05:57:25 pm »

I ASSUME you're asking me, because you reply to my post, but please, bold it next time. DatSwan's unvote at #393 was overlooked. You precious mod does make mistakes apparently.

Yes, sorry for forgetting the bold!

Are you confirming that Ash's vote at #146 was correctly-formed and deliberately didn't show up in the vote count?


I am.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (N1)
« Reply #533 on: September 23, 2018, 06:26:33 pm »

I am.

Thank you!

This is exciting! Kind of kicking myself for not having paid enough attention to get the counting script into play during D1, but I really was super-busy and then kind of burnt out.

The fact that Ash's power was mostly redacted may be relevant. OTOH, it may be something that was done to Ash and Morgrim, like someone who can target one player per night and have their vote do something weird the next day. If that's the case, and it was happening D1, I think it's more likely to be a scum power than a town one, because I think it's unusual to have townies with powers they can activate N0.

I wonder whether we should all be throwing some votes around to check whether it's just Morgrim, and also to see whether we can spot any other patterns in what's going on.

Vote: Galz

Just to see what happens. Though I'm not townreading Morgrim just yet.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (N1)
« Reply #534 on: September 23, 2018, 06:34:57 pm »

I ASSUME you're asking me, because you reply to my post, but please, bold it next time. DatSwan's unvote at #393 was overlooked. You precious mod does make mistakes apparently.

Yes, sorry for forgetting the bold!

Are you confirming that Ash's vote at #146 was correctly-formed and deliberately didn't show up in the vote count?


I am.
My Tigger vote -- was not counted for being an unrecognized nickname?
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #535 on: September 23, 2018, 06:35:33 pm »

previous message should be bold!
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #536 on: September 23, 2018, 06:36:25 pm »

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #537 on: September 23, 2018, 06:38:08 pm »

Why did you do ashersky? He's dead!

Trying to get a feel for -why- he's dead.
What did you conclude?
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #538 on: September 23, 2018, 06:45:53 pm »

Why did you do ashersky? He's dead!

Trying to get a feel for -why- he's dead.
What did you conclude?

I’m at a loss. His reads, such as they were, weren’t borne out by the flips we’ve seen so far. Best guess I have is that he maybe targeted datswan (who he strongly townread) and that led to his demise? I need to do a datswan read next.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #539 on: September 23, 2018, 06:59:21 pm »


This mystery voting mechanic is so interesting. And I think it has to be a scum power.

Morgrim, will you try voting for someone else so we can see what happens? It seems like when you unvote, that works.

And to see if i’m reistering correctly vote: DatSwan
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #540 on: September 23, 2018, 07:08:49 pm »

Why did you do ashersky? He's dead!

Trying to get a feel for -why- he's dead.
What did you conclude?

I’m at a loss. His reads, such as they were, weren’t borne out by the flips we’ve seen so far. Best guess I have is that he maybe targeted datswan (who he strongly townread) and that led to his demise? I need to do a datswan read next.

You know it was Iguana, not Ashersky, who was the person with the Weak Visitor component to their role, right?

While it's not impossible that Ash's role (or maybe the existence of a PGO-type role) would have also lead to his death through targeting someone, it seems a bit more unlikely, especially given that we know of another mechanism that was able to cause multiple deaths in a night, and several people hypothesise that Bart will also be present in the game and have some killing role.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (N1)
« Reply #541 on: September 23, 2018, 07:10:24 pm »

I ASSUME you're asking me, because you reply to my post, but please, bold it next time. DatSwan's unvote at #393 was overlooked. You precious mod does make mistakes apparently.

Yes, sorry for forgetting the bold!

Are you confirming that Ash's vote at #146 was correctly-formed and deliberately didn't show up in the vote count?


I am.
My Tigger vote -- was not counted for being an unrecognized nickname?

Yes.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #542 on: September 23, 2018, 07:48:32 pm »

Why did you do ashersky? He's dead!

Trying to get a feel for -why- he's dead.
What did you conclude?

I’m at a loss. His reads, such as they were, weren’t borne out by the flips we’ve seen so far. Best guess I have is that he maybe targeted datswan (who he strongly townread) and that led to his demise? I need to do a datswan read next.

You know it was Iguana, not Ashersky, who was the person with the Weak Visitor component to their role, right?

While it's not impossible that Ash's role (or maybe the existence of a PGO-type role) would have also lead to his death through targeting someone, it seems a bit more unlikely, especially given that we know of another mechanism that was able to cause multiple deaths in a night, and several people hypothesise that Bart will also be present in the game and have some killing role.

I was hypothesizing based on the bodyguard component

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #543 on: September 23, 2018, 08:04:59 pm »

I was hypothesizing based on the bodyguard component

Which bodyguard component?

The way I read the flips, there is no bodyguard. Iguana had a role where he was protected if he was in girl form and hid behind a townie, but he died if he hid behind a scum.

As for Ash -- the person you did your re-read on looking for bodyguard clues(?) -- the details of his role were redacted, so there's nothing there to say anything about bodyguarding there either.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #544 on: September 23, 2018, 08:47:22 pm »

I was hypothesizing based on the bodyguard component

Which bodyguard component?

The way I read the flips, there is no bodyguard. Iguana had a role where he was protected if he was in girl form and hid behind a townie, but he died if he hid behind a scum.

As for Ash -- the person you did your re-read on looking for bodyguard clues(?) -- the details of his role were redacted, so there's nothing there to say anything about bodyguarding there either.

Go back and look at ash’s flip again. I’m waiting.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #545 on: September 23, 2018, 10:22:34 pm »


This mystery voting mechanic is so interesting. And I think it has to be a scum power.

Morgrim, will you try voting for someone else so we can see what happens? It seems like when you unvote, that works.

And to see if i’m reistering correctly vote: DatSwan

Reistering?
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #546 on: September 23, 2018, 10:46:31 pm »

Are anyone else’s votes being controlled or not counted...

Earlier Space recommended we vote for someone to see, now that we know our votes may not be our own.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #547 on: September 23, 2018, 10:54:07 pm »

Test.
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« Reply #548 on: September 23, 2018, 11:20:59 pm »

Are anyone else’s votes being controlled or not counted...

Earlier Space recommended we vote for someone to see, now that we know our votes may not be our own.

We won't know until a VC
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #549 on: September 24, 2018, 02:40:28 am »

Hmm. well its nice that we have confirmed this stuff. but I don't know if we should keep spending the rest of the day on it as I'm guessing its a scum power and unless scum wants to claim it we won't really be able to figure out how it works.

Imma go back to Vote: WCD
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