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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #475 on: September 21, 2018, 06:04:43 pm »

If anyone is not determined to miss the point, please chime in on WCD.

And seriously, reread iguana. Do not rely on me finding no breadcrumb. I am bad at finding breadcrumbs. They might still be there
I looked at his EOD and didn't see anything either.

Alright. What do you think about WCD?
I don't think her posts implicate her as SK or mafia, especially since her logic is based mostly on flavor.

It was worth looking for a breadcrumb from iguana. I don't know why he didn't leave one. If had, then it might have been a helpful lead.

I am a humanties person, awash in potential inconsistency and dealing in contingency. And a newb, so trying to find something to understand about a game where so much is history and reading between the lines. EFHW has the best read on me, here. Silver has me with some grand master plan where I’m laying lines of diversion and planning my narrative accordingly. I’d be surprised if I strike anyone else as that on top of myself.

After I finished writing about why I think there is a Bart and she would likely be a killer, I wondered what the point of all that was. I realized that there wasn’t really a point...that knowledge doesn’t help us. But maybe some of the other things I pointed out along the way, like I think we likely all have complex powers, or that the scum could potentially swap souls with someone they capture, is helpful.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #476 on: September 21, 2018, 06:09:32 pm »

As for the result of my Iguana re-read, I found nothing that was very crumb-ish at all.

The best I could find was "silver is a catch him D3 kind of scum" at #336. D3 would give 2 nights, by which time Igu has a reasonable expectation of having been a WV at least once. But it feels way more likely that he was just chatting about his actual opinion of silver and not thinking at all about how to set up for his role.

Perhaps breadcrumbing at all felt too conspicuous to Iguana, given that he didn't even know if he was going to be able to make use of that part of his role last night anyway.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #477 on: September 21, 2018, 06:41:08 pm »

36 hours since restart, heading into the weekend: We haven't heard from Morgrim, Hydrad or 2.7
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #478 on: September 21, 2018, 06:41:43 pm »

I feel like there might be 2 NKs but it doesn't really matter yet? We will find out in future nights anyways so we don't have to worry to hard yet.

Scratch Hydrad. Missed this post.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #479 on: September 21, 2018, 10:11:00 pm »

Hey. Bad night, vacationing for anniversary with my wife. Skimmed through the day, and I have no clue what silverspawn is getting at questioning the presence of a SK.

Do you think there are multiple factions or are you claiming vig? Because if you claim vig then there is some explaining to do on your shot. Outside of that I think SK
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #480 on: September 22, 2018, 12:00:29 am »

I'm still alive, just exhausted. Don't have the energy to read everything and post something that makes sense tonight - you'll just have to wait until tomorrow. Although, I guess posting something random and nonsensical would be pretty morgrim-esque, huh?

vote: silver there that isn't too crazy
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #481 on: September 22, 2018, 03:29:39 am »

Hey. Bad night, vacationing for anniversary with my wife. Skimmed through the day, and I have no clue what silverspawn is getting at questioning the presence of a SK.

Do you think there are multiple factions or are you claiming vig? Because if you claim vig then there is some explaining to do on your shot. Outside of that I think SK

did you read iguana's flip?

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (N1)
« Reply #482 on: September 22, 2018, 04:02:25 am »

Vote count 2.1

silverspawn (1): gkrieg13
WestCoastDidds (1): silverspawn
Not voting (9): Galzria, SpaceAnemone, EFHW, DatSwan, Hydrad, Morgrim7, chairs, 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #483 on: September 22, 2018, 05:05:20 am »

Did Morgrim's vote not count?
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #484 on: September 22, 2018, 08:58:36 am »

I don’t think there is a point in building a case against silver here because pretty much everyone thinks he’s scum. I was going to, but I’m on my phone and don’t feel like getting out of bed to grab my laptop. Just reread him, the case builds itself.

And I don’t think we can afford to not lynch scum today even if he is an SK who could potentially hit the mafia.

Based on flavor, I would be inclined to think that there is an SK in this game. Iguana seems like a pretty reasonable kill for the mafia, and there were a lot of people scum reading ashes so he’s a pretty good target for an SK (or a vig I guess).

Pretty sure WCD is town.

Also morgrim didn’t you claim det zimm?
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #485 on: September 22, 2018, 09:41:16 am »

I don’t think there is a point in building a case against silver here because pretty much everyone thinks he’s scum. I was going to, but I’m on my phone and don’t feel like getting out of bed to grab my laptop. Just reread him, the case builds itself.

And I don’t think we can afford to not lynch scum today even if he is an SK who could potentially hit the mafia.

Based on flavor, I would be inclined to think that there is an SK in this game. Iguana seems like a pretty reasonable kill for the mafia, and there were a lot of people scum reading ashes so he’s a pretty good target for an SK (or a vig I guess).

Pretty sure WCD is town.

Also morgrim didn’t you claim det zimm?
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I am universe aligned, I have 2 votes, and there is literally no case.

You (gkrieg and such) certainly managed to make me feel incredibly annoyed / feel like I'm talking to Awaclus, but you haven't exactly been able to make me feel like it's a lynch is inevitable.

Which, btw, is a really scummy move on your part. Trying to frame the lynch as inevitable, that is, especially since it's not.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #486 on: September 22, 2018, 09:42:11 am »

Empirically speaking, I've never been lynched without anyone having stated a case, and I don't think this will be the first time.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #487 on: September 22, 2018, 09:43:47 am »

And to everyone who does think I'm scum: forget the inside view for a moment and look at past games. do you have any reaosn whatsoever to believe that your gut read on me correlates positively with my alignment? Show me the record that proves your 'no real reason but I kind of feel like it' read on me has worked in the past.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #488 on: September 22, 2018, 10:08:19 am »

vote: morgrim

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #489 on: September 22, 2018, 12:48:21 pm »

vote: Silver {Reasons}
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #490 on: September 22, 2018, 12:50:07 pm »

Vote: Morgrim

Morgrim's "pretty much everyone thinks he’s scum" comment about silver is ridiculous, and hiding a vote behind some "well, everyone thinks this so I have to go along with it" sort of logic is really scummy.

I think silver has been entirely reasonable in his behaviour and logic, including the Bayesian inference someone was questioning earlier. I think the only thing I disagree with him on is how scummy we ought to think WCD is. As for the existence of an SK, there really is no proof for either an SK or a vig in the game, whereas there is a revealed game mechanic that would have caused Iguana to die, so not considering that fact is just negligent. I really don't see why any sensible person is apparently scumreading him for not being more sold on an SK.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #491 on: September 22, 2018, 12:52:49 pm »

Skimmed through the day, and I have no clue what silverspawn is getting at questioning the presence of a SK.

You know we have a dead person who's 50% Weak Visitor, right? You don't think it's at all worth even considering the possibility Iguana died by visiting a scum?
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #492 on: September 22, 2018, 02:01:11 pm »

Hey. Bad night, vacationing for anniversary with my wife. Skimmed through the day, and I have no clue what silverspawn is getting at questioning the presence of a SK.

Do you think there are multiple factions or are you claiming vig? Because if you claim vig then there is some explaining to do on your shot. Outside of that I think SK

did you read iguana's flip?

Skimmed through the day, and I have no clue what silverspawn is getting at questioning the presence of a SK.

You know we have a dead person who's 50% Weak Visitor, right? You don't think it's at all worth even considering the possibility Iguana died by visiting a scum?


Oh.  I had not read the flip past who died. It is possible that he died visiting scum, but as silverspawn has been suggesting I need to look for potential clues as to who he may have visited
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #493 on: September 22, 2018, 02:17:12 pm »

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (N1)
« Reply #494 on: September 22, 2018, 06:58:22 pm »

Vote count 2.2

silverspawn (2): gkrieg13, Galzria
WestCoastDidds (1): silverspawn
Morgrim7 (2): chairs, SpaceAnemone
2.71828..... (1): EFHW
Not voting (5): DatSwan, Hydrad, Morgrim7, 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #495 on: September 22, 2018, 07:25:43 pm »

So....:

1) Morgrim can't vote right now
2) Morgrim can vote, but he has some modifying mechanic on said vote
3) LaLight missed Morgrim's vote... twice.

LaLight, can we confirm that you saw this?:

I'm still alive, just exhausted. Don't have the energy to read everything and post something that makes sense tonight - you'll just have to wait until tomorrow. Although, I guess posting something random and nonsensical would be pretty morgrim-esque, huh?

vote: silver there that isn't too crazy
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #496 on: September 22, 2018, 07:51:53 pm »

So....:

1) Morgrim can't vote right now
2) Morgrim can vote, but he has some modifying mechanic on said vote
3) LaLight missed Morgrim's vote... twice.

LaLight, can we confirm that you saw this?:

I'm still alive, just exhausted. Don't have the energy to read everything and post something that makes sense tonight - you'll just have to wait until tomorrow. Although, I guess posting something random and nonsensical would be pretty morgrim-esque, huh?

vote: silver there that isn't too crazy

huh. good catch.
Silver said they had voting mechanic stuff in their role as well... could be on Silver's side of the somehow instead of Morgrim's.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #497 on: September 22, 2018, 07:56:11 pm »


Oh, interesting! Seems unlikely to have been missed twice. I wonder if it’s no vote or someone controls his vote.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (N1)
« Reply #498 on: September 22, 2018, 09:04:43 pm »

Vote count 2.3

silverspawn (2): gkrieg13, Galzria
WestCoastDidds (1): silverspawn
Morgrim7 (3): chairs, SpaceAnemone, Morgrim7
2.71828..... (1): EFHW
Not voting (4): DatSwan, Hydrad, 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 2 ends Thursday, 27th of September, at 4am

So....:

1) Morgrim can't vote right now
2) Morgrim can vote, but he has some modifying mechanic on said vote
3) LaLight missed Morgrim's vote... twice.

LaLight, can we confirm that you saw this?:

I'm still alive, just exhausted. Don't have the energy to read everything and post something that makes sense tonight - you'll just have to wait until tomorrow. Although, I guess posting something random and nonsensical would be pretty morgrim-esque, huh?

vote: silver there that isn't too crazy

I did see it.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« Reply #499 on: September 22, 2018, 09:56:43 pm »

...Morgrim is self-voting now?

That vote count looks... weird. How does Morgrim end up self-voting? Does silver have some sort of vote "reflect" ability? Does that even make sense in the lore?
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