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[Swowl]

If I was Bart the SK, then it would be clear what to do, and the time to do it would be night 1.

vote: e for being uncharacteristically unreasonable

Uncharacteristically? This is one of my better early D1 cases

Forget the case. You should do the plan.

False. The time too do it would be N2, if at all

So... Why would N2 be the best time? Like first off... how would be execute a plan during the Night Phase? Secondly, acting under the assumption this wasn't some crazy slip... do you mean D2 or D3?

[ashersky]

Sorry I’m behind, basically weekends are net free nowadays.  Have only read through page 10 (default setting) and won’t be able to read more now.  Will catch up in the next day.

[Swowl]

K. Done with my list. Won't be around tomorrow really that much. And deadline is at like 4am my time, but I will be around the day right before for like the whole day.

I cannot find someone that I really like... mainly due to lack of participation by experienced players (which is weird bc no Robz).

It comes down to [WCD, Silver, 2.7].

I would like an answer from 2.7 before I decide.

[iguanaiguana]

DatSwan seems townie.

[WestCoastDidds]

I cannot find someone that I really like... mainly due to lack of participation by experienced players (which is weird bc no Robz).

This is what I was trying to say earlier. I’m not sure why I’m being held to a meaningful contribution standard when almost no else is.

I’m away for a wine tasting weekend today and tomorrow, so a real reread will have to wait.

[WestCoastDidds]

[quote author=iguanaiguana link=topic=18935.msg769634#msg769634 date=1537055486

Still kinda waiting on you to prove me wrong. Esp if I was wrong on # of days then you have time to do so
[/quote]

I’ve got husband stuff going on today and tomorrow. I’m under the impression that others are away on weekends so that’s okay, yes? I just have my phone so trying to go back and read is hard.

This is my first RMM game. The other that I played was a newbie game and both silver and Faust were playing, and sharing lots of their thought process so it was MUCH easier for me to follow their lead and put stuff together to meaningfully contribute. That is not happening in this game and the roles are much more opaque. Many of folks reads are what they know of players previously and how they are acting now. Obviously I can’t do that.

[WestCoastDidds]

Hhhmmm....re #139 long Igu post about me not posting much (phone quoting is hard)...
I’ll have to count when I’m on a computer but I’m reasonably sure I’m not the lowest level poster and my posts have been far longer than the one line gkrieg and silver posts.

Al of which is to say, I’m not doing nothing nor trying to be minimally engaged. And thanks for the hat tip. I’m trying not to take it personally and know you (likely) are justctrying to get me to contribute something of substance. (Again, trying. Y’all know there isn’t a users manual or instruction book, right?)

Currently, the votes on Galz and e seem to me to have the best reasoning. I can’t say that I have a real read on anyone so I’m looking at the logic others employ.

Vote: e

OK - So I am trying super hard to TR you here... but are you, in the same post, trying to defend your lack of content play and also saying you find the solo vote on Galz (which literally says, "because they are lurking")?
Please elaborate on why you think Galz is a good vote?

TR?

The arguments for many folks seem to be “this is different/same as usual” and the folks who said that about him and e, leaned on both low engagement and the nature of their content. I’m still unsure how much we Dan actually expect in the weekend, though, so I expect that we’ll hear more from townie kinds of folks, and perhaps less from scummy ones, on Monday.

I’ve been a bit adrift because other than the discussion of plans, there has been little else other than references to history. So it still RVS to me even though I know that time had passed.

[Swowl]

Hhhmmm....re #139 long Igu post about me not posting much (phone quoting is hard)...
I’ll have to count when I’m on a computer but I’m reasonably sure I’m not the lowest level poster and my posts have been far longer than the one line gkrieg and silver posts.

Al of which is to say, I’m not doing nothing nor trying to be minimally engaged. And thanks for the hat tip. I’m trying not to take it personally and know you (likely) are justctrying to get me to contribute something of substance. (Again, trying. Y’all know there isn’t a users manual or instruction book, right?)

Currently, the votes on Galz and e seem to me to have the best reasoning. I can’t say that I have a real read on anyone so I’m looking at the logic others employ.

Vote: e

TR= Town Read

[silverspawn]

If anyone could talk me down, mayve its you DS. But if not WCD where should I be spending my energy in your opinion?

Just trust me on this. The last time I scumread a newbie while I was town was in my last town game, it was simon, and I was very confident that he was scum, and he was scum. If WCS is scum, I'll let you know.

Here is a list of poeple we should lynch out of: Galzria, gkrieg13, DatSwan, Hydrad, Morgrim7, chairs, 2.71828....., ashersky

None of them is particularly scummy, but that's just beceause no-one so far is particularly scummy. So far there's only townie people. All the wagons atm are silly.

[EFHW]

I'm seeing more scumminess now. vote: WCD

[EFHW]

On second thought, vote: silver.

[SpaceAnemone]

Trying to catch up.. may take till late tonight UK time because I still have three houseguests. Igu being defensive seems townie I think. I haven't read about the most recent 30 posts or something, but have to go out again now...

[LaLight]

Vote count 1.5

Morgrim7 (1):, SpaceAnemone
iguanaiguana (1): Hydrad
EFHW (1): gkrieg13
WestCoastDidds (2): iguanaiguana, chairs
silverspawn (4): Awaclus, Morgrim7, 2.71828....., EFHW
Galzria (1): DatSwan
ashersky (1): silverspawn
2.71828..... (1): WestCoastDidds
Not voting (2): Galzria, ashersky

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 ends, Tuesday, 18th of September, at 7am

[chairs]

vote: silverspawn so much newbie defense. L-3.

Stoked about the idea that time travel is gonna happen in this game maybe, was fun in other games.

[iguanaiguana]

Not gonna lie... I want to vote silver straight up just for telling me 'I will tell you when it is OK to lynch WCD.'

Hey silver, where in your role did you see Iguana is your second vote?

Here's my problem. silver wagon is a bit scummy.

[iguanaiguana]

@WCD, the best I can say is if you really are town and you don't like how other people are scumhunting, find your own way to scumhunt. Theres no need to feel beholden to what others are doing.

I get that weekends are busy for you though. Its the opposite for me RN.

[iguanaiguana]

Vote: 2.71828...

[EFHW]

Vote: 2.71828...

You're joining the wagon your top scumread started.

[Morgrim7]

unvote

After rereading, the case against silver is a lot weaker than I thought it was. His first few (serious) posts are boldly supporting the flavorclaim plan, something that I don't think pushes him either way on the scum radar. From the offset it seems that the scum's first instinct would be to not support the plan, because they 1) don't want to bother thinking of a believable townie flavor to claim, 2) don't want to have to worry about someone else having that flavor, and 3) don't gain too much from the info regarding who has a PR from flavor claims because there are probably a lot of PRs here. However, he probably correctly recognized that this plan was never going to go to fruition, so there was little danger in supporting it as scum and little hope in supporting it as town. Thus, his reaction doesn't give him town points or scum points imo.

Then there is his defense of WCD, which makes a lot of sense to me. The only real case against WCD is that his content was below average near the beginning of the game, for which he gave a pretty legitimate excuse. Aside from that, he has...not supported his own wagon? idek

He has a TR on iguana which I don't think is necessarily far fetched. Iguana had a pretty strange and oddly specific SK plan but has been pretty townish since then? I guess? (ppe: I don't agree with the e votes but iguana isn't that scummy for it imo)

He voted for ashes which I am pretty inclined to do at this point.

He correctly said that EFHW was right about WCD.


yeah maybe a little scummy but not enough to warrant a wagon like this

[ashersky]

Caught up, didn’t miss anything, did I?

There is little to base reads on.  Will vote anyone I didn’t town read earlier.

Happy to sheep Morg actually.

Too quiet Galz is town!galz.  Like me, he can’t help but be hyper-active as scum.  Unless that’s changed about him?

[iguanaiguana]

Vote: 2.71828...

You're joining the wagon your top scumread started.

couldn't do that unless my top scum read is self-voting

[Morgrim7]

Hi ashes.

I might be stupid and missing context, but

Does scum oppose a clearly scum-helping plan?  Do they support it to help it gain traction?  Depends on the player, of course.

is ashes calling his own plan "clearly scum-helping", or iguana's? If he was referring to his own, was it a bait? And if it was a bait, does he think Awaclus I are scummy for supporting it?

Plz respond

[EFHW]

Vote: 2.71828...

You're joining the wagon your top scumread started.

couldn't do that unless my top scum read is self-voting

WCD isn't your top scum read anymore? What put e up there?

[2.71828.....]

Vote: 2.71828...

You're joining the wagon your top scumread started.

couldn't do that unless my top scum read is self-voting

WCD isn't your top scum read anymore? What put e up there?

my inactivity?

[2.71828.....]

So, about iguana.  I kind of laughed to myself a bit at this post

I dunno e, I feel like you put me in your scumbucket already so it doesn't matter what I tell you, but FWIW I am, without hesitation, pursuing my current 'plan' of waiting to see what Ash has got to say before I share my opinions on people's reactions to what I've said.

because nothing could be further from the truth.  I was actually town-reading you at that point but maintaining my "scum" read and vote to see if anyone else would jump on the wagon and vote against your plan.  I still don't like the plan, but was just trying to see what I could learn.  Nothing came of it (no one felt like wagoning iguana), which is interesting in itself, but that is that. 

Iguana's defense later on (those blocks of posts) also felt very townie to me.