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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #875 on: September 20, 2018, 03:34:46 pm »

We definitely should talk a bit first before throwing the day away, we learned some valuable info with Hydrad’s reveal. We should just calm down a bit.

We can no-lynch later if we need to.

We should avoid talking about reads though, as that will make it easier for scum to kill correctly.

What is there for scum to read correctly? Both doctors are done, so we are VT and scum, right? Am I missing something?

You are missing that we have reads. Scum wants to kill the townies who correctly read scum and the townies who are being correctly townread by most of town, and they want to keep easy mislynch targets around.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #876 on: September 20, 2018, 05:47:03 pm »

We definitely should talk a bit first before throwing the day away, we learned some valuable info with Hydrad’s reveal. We should just calm down a bit.

We can no-lynch later if we need to.

We should avoid talking about reads though, as that will make it easier for scum to kill correctly.

What is there for scum to read correctly? Both doctors are done, so we are VT and scum, right? Am I missing something?

You are missing that we have reads. Scum wants to kill the townies who correctly read scum and the townies who are being correctly townread by most of town, and they want to keep easy mislynch targets around.

Thanks for the explanation! My first game didn’t go this long so I feel like I’m starting over with the questions.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #877 on: September 20, 2018, 08:25:01 pm »

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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #878 on: September 21, 2018, 12:42:00 am »

So assuming always mislynch it would go
5-1 today
4-1 tonight
3-1 tomorrow
2-1 last night
Then they kill and game is over if we don’t find skum. So, this would give us today and tomorrow to try and find last skum.

If we no lynch today:
5-1 today
5-1 tonight
4-1 tomorrow
3-1 tomorrow night
Wake up to 2-1

So in this instance we still get the same amount by of days to find 1 skum. However , the last day we get the advantage of Town-Town-skum (or disadvantage Idk i guess it depends on how you look at it).

So yeah no lynch is the play. I think we should do it tomorrow over today though from an information gather POV.

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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #879 on: September 21, 2018, 12:59:34 am »

So yeah no lynch is the play. I think we should do it tomorrow over today though from an information gather POV.

The information gather POV is exactly why we should do it today over tomorrow. We want to force scum to decide on the first night kill without hearing any more from us.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #880 on: September 21, 2018, 03:27:17 am »

So yeah no lynch is the play. I think we should do it tomorrow over today though from an information gather POV.

The information gather POV is exactly why we should do it today over tomorrow. We want to force scum to decide on the first night kill without hearing any more from us.

The problem is that we all know is getting killed tonight. So why not wait that part out

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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #881 on: September 21, 2018, 03:29:15 am »

If we no-lynch without talking one of us won’t get to have an opinion.

I think that might be important, but what do I know?

Plus it’s not like their kill could be influenced that much. I doubt it would move too far from what is already planned in their heads. I would think it’s obvious...?
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #882 on: September 21, 2018, 04:09:05 am »

If we no-lynch without talking one of us won’t get to have an opinion.

I think that might be important, but what do I know?

Plus it’s not like their kill could be influenced that much. I doubt it would move too far from what is already planned in their heads. I would think it’s obvious...?

Once you're dead, your opinion isn't really going to matter very much because other people are still going to trust their own opinions over yours.

Their kill could totally be influenced. There were two flips, one of which was scum, and only one person so far has voiced their reads in the light of those flips. If you figure out the scum correctly here and say that out loud, that makes it super easy for scum to get rid of you before LyLo.

The problem is that we all know is getting killed tonight. So why not wait that part out

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Stop with this nonsense.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #883 on: September 21, 2018, 04:10:05 am »

I mean, now we all know that DatSwan and Awaclus are not getting killed tonight.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #884 on: September 21, 2018, 07:14:56 am »


Vote Awaclus

Awaclus was gkrieg’s biggest scumread. So, I can’t see much reason not to test that theory out. This way we at least have some control over who we get down to in the end. I am totally down with no lynch tomorrow
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #885 on: September 21, 2018, 07:15:23 am »


Vote: Awaclus
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #886 on: September 21, 2018, 10:24:53 am »

I don’t think I am in favor of Awaclus lynch. Why do this if we can no lynch?
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #887 on: September 21, 2018, 12:18:29 pm »

I don’t think I am in favor of Awaclus lynch. Why do this if we can no lynch?

Well, the way I see it is that he is likely scum. And if he is not, there is an NK, and then we can no lynch Day 4, right? That would still set up 2-1?

I feel like if we no lynch today, DatSwan gets axed in the night, and then we have less helpful and knowledgeable group on Day 4, especially if Awaclus is still among us.

If there isn't momentum on Awa, I'll shift to no lynch, but Eddie and Chairs should weigh in first.

Are feeling any better, LL? I hope you are getting some good rest. 
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #888 on: September 21, 2018, 12:45:28 pm »

I don’t think I am in favor of Awaclus lynch. Why do this if we can no lynch?

Well, the way I see it is that he is likely scum. And if he is not, there is an NK, and then we can no lynch Day 4, right? That would still set up 2-1?

I feel like if we no lynch today, DatSwan gets axed in the night, and then we have less helpful and knowledgeable group on Day 4, especially if Awaclus is still among us.

If there isn't momentum on Awa, I'll shift to no lynch, but Eddie and Chairs should weigh in first.

Are feeling any better, LL? I hope you are getting some good rest.

Temperature isn't going down which somehow affects my thinking. I don't see the difference between lynching Awa now and lynching him then. You're so confident DS is axed tonight, do you know for sure he's not scum? How? I feel more like you or me are getting axed tonight
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #889 on: September 21, 2018, 01:37:26 pm »

I don’t think I am in favor of Awaclus lynch. Why do this if we can no lynch?

Well, the way I see it is that he is likely scum. And if he is not, there is an NK, and then we can no lynch Day 4, right? That would still set up 2-1?

I feel like if we no lynch today, DatSwan gets axed in the night, and then we have less helpful and knowledgeable group on Day 4, especially if Awaclus is still among us.

If there isn't momentum on Awa, I'll shift to no lynch, but Eddie and Chairs should weigh in first.

Are feeling any better, LL? I hope you are getting some good rest.

Temperature isn't going down which somehow affects my thinking. I don't see the difference between lynching Awa now and lynching him then. You're so confident DS is axed tonight, do you know for sure he's not scum? How? I feel more like you or me are getting axed tonight

Ugh. I am so sorry. I hate how a fever makes my eyeballs feel like they are on fire. It's gotta break soon!  And then you will be on the mend.  I am sending you good thoughts.

DatSwan is the only person who has not ever been mentioned as suspicious or on anyone's radar.  You, me, Eddie, chairs, and Awaclus have all had either votes or talks about votes. So, I was assuming he'd be the kill.  And I think he was assuming that, too, based on his earlier comment.

I think the upshot to lynching Awa now is that if he is scum, we win!  If he's not, then we no lynch and see what we are left with on the last day.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #890 on: September 21, 2018, 01:58:03 pm »

Eh, I find datswan no more valid a NK than anyone else. Scumpoints for wcd

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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #891 on: September 21, 2018, 01:59:37 pm »

I don’t think I am in favor of Awaclus lynch. Why do this if we can no lynch?

Well, the way I see it is that he is likely scum. And if he is not, there is an NK, and then we can no lynch Day 4, right? That would still set up 2-1?

I feel like if we no lynch today, DatSwan gets axed in the night, and then we have less helpful and knowledgeable group on Day 4, especially if Awaclus is still among us.

If there isn't momentum on Awa, I'll shift to no lynch, but Eddie and Chairs should weigh in first.

Are feeling any better, LL? I hope you are getting some good rest.

Temperature isn't going down which somehow affects my thinking. I don't see the difference between lynching Awa now and lynching him then. You're so confident DS is axed tonight, do you know for sure he's not scum? How? I feel more like you or me are getting axed tonight

Ugh. I am so sorry. I hate how a fever makes my eyeballs feel like they are on fire. It's gotta break soon!  And then you will be on the mend.  I am sending you good thoughts.

DatSwan is the only person who has not ever been mentioned as suspicious or on anyone's radar.  You, me, Eddie, chairs, and Awaclus have all had either votes or talks about votes. So, I was assuming he'd be the kill.  And I think he was assuming that, too, based on his earlier comment.

I think the upshot to lynching Awa now is that if he is scum, we win!  If he's not, then we no lynch and see what we are left with on the last day.

In M86 gkrieg was scum counterclaiming actual doctor. He had literally one vote for the whole game
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #892 on: September 21, 2018, 02:04:03 pm »


I don’t know what this means, but I’ll go read M86
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #893 on: September 21, 2018, 02:07:34 pm »


I don’t know what this means, but I’ll go read M86

I mean DS can be scum whom no one thinks he is, that’s the point. Trlling “he was never suspected therefore he’s town” is simply not true. With this i am leaving to sleep
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #894 on: September 21, 2018, 02:11:23 pm »


I don’t know what this means, but I’ll go read M86

I mean DS can be scum whom no one thinks he is, that’s the point. Trlling “he was never suspected therefore he’s town” is simply not true. With this i am leaving to sleep

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #895 on: September 21, 2018, 02:59:53 pm »

Eh, I find datswan no more valid a NK than anyone else. Scumpoints for wcd


... I clearly will be the night kill. I can't decide if it is skummy or not of you to suggest otherwise.
I would of had to single handedly pushed my only partner from day 1 to lynch over several others (such as you).
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #896 on: September 21, 2018, 03:18:53 pm »

I don’t think I am in favor of Awaclus lynch. Why do this if we can no lynch?

OK here is the wagon at the end of the day - ish.

Important thing to remember here is that:
1) There are only two skum
2) One of the Skum is NOT GK
3) Hydrad was the only Skum!PR



Vote Count 2.8

Hydrad (3): DatSwan, chairs, Uncleeurope
chairs (4): Hydrad, LaLight, WestCoastDidds, Awaclus
Awaclus (1): gkrieg13


-Swan, Chairs, Eddie on Hydrad the whole way through. Could of hammered chairs at like any point in time. Very unlikely skum from Swan and Eddie. If it is Chairs!Hydrad... still unlikely as Hydrad was the PR, they probably would of bailed and pushed another wagon... But, still could be a thing.


- LL, WCD, Awaclus on Chairs.




Vote Count 2.9Hydrad (4): DatSwan, chairs, Uncleeurope, LaLightchairs (3): Hydrad, WestCoastDidds, AwaclusAwaclus (1): gkrieg13


- LL switches to Hydrad and puts them at L-1... Which doesn't really make sense if it is LL!Hydrad because chairs was L-1 and everyone was saying they were not going to let it go to no lynch.
- WCD and Awaclus could hammer at this point.


Final Vote Count - Day 2Hydrad (5): DatSwan, chairs, Uncleeurope, LaLight, WestCoastDiddschairs (2): Hydrad, AwaclusAwaclus (1): gkrieg13

- LL does the weird Fake Hammer thing.. Dunno what that means.

- WCD Hammers. At this point would do it as Skum or Town.
- Only other alive player that could of hammered was Awaclus.

From a VCA perspective:
- It is almost certainly NOT [Swan, Chairs, Eddie, LL].
- It could be Chairs in a far off world.
- It is most likely [Awaclus or WCD].

I am on Awaclus now, but to be honest I need to look closer at WCD.

More important than who looks skummy... Skum knows that 3-4 players look very towny. They would want as many chances to kill as possible without taking risks during the day with lynches at this point.

I am not saying no-lynch is wrong. But I am saying we got some shit to talk about before we end this day.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #897 on: September 21, 2018, 03:24:51 pm »

Agreed on that point. I would even probably be willing to lynch awaclus today because I think he’s slightly more likely out of that pair.

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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #898 on: September 21, 2018, 03:35:35 pm »

I’m not opposed to an Awa-kill today, either. Although the benefit of waking a day is strong.

I just feel that no matter the mix of people he is going to be a strong candidate.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #899 on: September 21, 2018, 05:52:05 pm »


I agree that I think the NK is Swan. I find it weird that LL would say otherwise, but dude is sick, so it’s not worth hassling him. .

I voted Awa much earlier today, and have been waiting for Chairs and Eddie to get on board. None of us really like his play style, I don’t think, and gkrieg def thought he was scum. I think there is a huge chance he’s scum and we win. But y’all pretty much get to decide if it’s him or no lynch.

Hydrad was the first lynch where I felt pretty good about my read and my decision. I wasn’t late to the Hydrad train so much as I had parked my vote elsewhere then got swallowed by work, then Chairs finally had some content, etc. i don’t think my hammering him makes me guilty. Just busy. I’m wordy so a reread will take awhile, but I don’t think you’ll find me scummy, especially once I settled into the game.
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