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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1000 on: September 11, 2018, 01:16:19 pm »

If robz and dsell don’t lynch Joseph tommorow there will be scoldings to be had

Sure, sure, but I really will be absolving myself of all blame if this turns out wrong.

That's fine. If it makes you feel better, even Joseph thinks he's town:

Joseph: Robz -> Galz -> Dsell
Galz: Joseph -> Robz -> Dsell
Dsell: Joseph -> Robz -> Galz
Robz: Galz ->
Mcmc: Galz -> Joseph -> Dsell

Right, which is characteristic of play that doesn't make a lot of sense if Joseph is scum.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1001 on: September 11, 2018, 01:19:11 pm »

Also I’m really more galz/joseph -> robz/dsell

I’m just far more scared of scum!galz convincing dsell to lynch robz then I am of scum!joseph convincing robz to lynch dsell.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1002 on: September 11, 2018, 01:23:24 pm »

I'm not sure where all this confidence  Dsell is town is coming from, though I will defer to you.

Also, I'm having flashbacks to a previous game, somewhere in the 97-107s, where I was in a final three with Andrew and Joseph, and chose Joseph because his play was sort of weird and had irked me and he hadn't said much all game--just like this--but of course he was town and I'd been played by a masterful scum Andrew performance.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1003 on: September 11, 2018, 01:28:13 pm »

I'm not sure where all this confidence  Dsell is town is coming from, though I will defer to you.

Also, I'm having flashbacks to a previous game, somewhere in the 97-107s, where I was in a final three with Andrew and Joseph, and chose Joseph because his play was sort of weird and had irked me and he hadn't said much all game--just like this--but of course he was town and I'd been played by a masterful scum Andrew performance.
I think that may be about to happen again.
My LYLO win %age is 0%, and if you lynch me tomorrow, it'll stay that way
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1004 on: September 11, 2018, 01:28:35 pm »

I'm not sure where all this confidence  Dsell is town is coming from, though I will defer to you.

Also, I'm having flashbacks to a previous game, somewhere in the 97-107s, where I was in a final three with Andrew and Joseph, and chose Joseph because his play was sort of weird and had irked me and he hadn't said much all game--just like this--but of course he was town and I'd been played by a masterful scum Andrew performance.

Dsell is town for me because, like myself, he was the target lynch of Gkrieg for much of D2, and then he was the first to push e's lynch on D3. It's possible Gkrueg was trying to bus him. It's also possible he was early voting e for town cred. But neither you, nor Joseph have either of those things going for you, which simply makes Dsell seem much more likely to be town.
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TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1005 on: September 11, 2018, 01:29:44 pm »

I see what your saying but at some point that’s on Joseph...or we go back to mislynch it him day one like we always do.

But in all honesty look at how dsell interacted with 2.7 dsell has to have been playing an am extremely aware game to be scum.

This has been a strange game because out of 5 cop results we only managed to get one IC. So slot of the days were relatively systematic but we didn’t quite get the benefit’s we expected. Meaning we are going off much less information than normal in this situation.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1006 on: September 11, 2018, 01:29:55 pm »

Much rather have killed scum today then Galz. Probably I would have voted for Galz eventually (especially if it was Galz or me), but now we need to work out if it's Robz or Dsell.

Out of those 2, I'm leaning towards Robz

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1007 on: September 11, 2018, 01:31:30 pm »

I see what your saying but at some point that’s on Joseph...or we go back to mislynch it him day one like we always do.
Haven't been mislynched D1 for a while. Losing LYLOs is my thing now (i'm 0/3 or 0/4 at LYLO)
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1008 on: September 11, 2018, 01:32:25 pm »

I'm not sure where all this confidence  Dsell is town is coming from, though I will defer to you.

Also, I'm having flashbacks to a previous game, somewhere in the 97-107s, where I was in a final three with Andrew and Joseph, and chose Joseph because his play was sort of weird and had irked me and he hadn't said much all game--just like this--but of course he was town and I'd been played by a masterful scum Andrew performance.
I think that may be about to happen again.
My LYLO win %age is 0%, and if you lynch me tomorrow, it'll stay that way

That's true for you regardless of alignment.
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TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1009 on: September 11, 2018, 01:32:47 pm »

I'm not sure where all this confidence  Dsell is town is coming from, though I will defer to you.

Also, I'm having flashbacks to a previous game, somewhere in the 97-107s, where I was in a final three with Andrew and Joseph, and chose Joseph because his play was sort of weird and had irked me and he hadn't said much all game--just like this--but of course he was town and I'd been played by a masterful scum Andrew performance.
I think that may be about to happen again.
My LYLO win %age is 0%, and if you lynch me tomorrow, it'll stay that way

That's true for you regardless of alignment.
Only ever been town at LYLO though
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1010 on: September 11, 2018, 01:33:26 pm »

And been lynched at LYLO all but one time.
Which is something Robz seems to be aware of... Almost like I'm being set up by him as the obvious LYLO mislynch.......
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1011 on: September 11, 2018, 01:36:16 pm »

I'm not sure where all this confidence  Dsell is town is coming from, though I will defer to you.

Also, I'm having flashbacks to a previous game, somewhere in the 97-107s, where I was in a final three with Andrew and Joseph, and chose Joseph because his play was sort of weird and had irked me and he hadn't said much all game--just like this--but of course he was town and I'd been played by a masterful scum Andrew performance.

Dsell is town for me because, like myself, he was the target lynch of Gkrieg for much of D2, and then he was the first to push e's lynch on D3. It's possible Gkrueg was trying to bus him. It's also possible he was early voting e for town cred. But neither you, nor Joseph have either of those things going for you, which simply makes Dsell seem much more likely to be town.

I bolded the above part, this is false!

I investigated Datswan and got scum.  Maybe I was framed, as cops make good frame targets since we now know that the fake cop is regular scum not traitor, probably would have investigated a VT had I thought more about it but I just got excited when gkrieg flipped traitor and with my limited access over the weekend went with the first thing that I thought of.

There's a mcmc post, and then me.

What E said: "Lol I am mafia."

Dsell's post also suspecting E came later.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1012 on: September 11, 2018, 01:37:08 pm »

I'm not sure where all this confidence  Dsell is town is coming from, though I will defer to you.

Also, I'm having flashbacks to a previous game, somewhere in the 97-107s, where I was in a final three with Andrew and Joseph, and chose Joseph because his play was sort of weird and had irked me and he hadn't said much all game--just like this--but of course he was town and I'd been played by a masterful scum Andrew performance.
I'm a low contributor. It is who I am. Don't always have the time to dedicate to massive rereads.
Though I have reread this game, and I think it's Robz

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1013 on: September 11, 2018, 01:39:45 pm »

Can we just delay vote: Joseph and get our darn flips.

With some peeps left alive galz came under pressure and self voted, he was [insert flip] the misunderstood town who mcmc is sorry he doesn’t read good (like a school for ants), or he was [insert flip] the slow rolled of the century and shouldn’t have kept the act up this long (for real tho plz).

Yaaarg I died in the night I was blah blah blah a town. As you all knew.

Dsell and Robzors were good little pups and lynched joseph, he was [insert flip] under the radar scum who’s partner got caught earlier then expected, or [insert flip] under the radar town who’s partners wish he was more active.

MVP goes to awaclus or mcmc depending on how good your memory is, or robz or dsell for being sneaky bois
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1014 on: September 11, 2018, 01:41:00 pm »

Can we just delay vote: Joseph and get our darn flips.

With some peeps left alive galz came under pressure and self voted, he was [insert flip] the misunderstood town who mcmc is sorry he doesn’t read good (like a school for ants), or he was [insert flip] the slow rolled of the century and shouldn’t have kept the act up this long (for real tho plz).

Yaaarg I died in the night I was blah blah blah a town. As you all knew.

Dsell and Robzors were good little pups and lynched joseph, he was [insert flip] under the radar scum who’s partner got caught earlier then expected, or [insert flip] under the radar town who’s partners wish he was more active.

MVP goes to awaclus or mcmc depending on how good your memory is, or robz or dsell for being sneaky bois

This is the post of the century.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1015 on: September 11, 2018, 01:41:36 pm »

Also robz I think dsell is town because no one thinks it’s dsell.

Scum has to pick one town to just go with at the end and convince to lynch two other townies. Galz/joseph both lined up you after the other one went down.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1016 on: September 11, 2018, 01:43:15 pm »

Also robz I think dsell is town because no one thinks it’s dsell.

Scum has to pick one town to just go with at the end and convince to lynch two other townies. Galz/joseph both lined up you after the other one went down.

You could be scum but again then gkrieg has to have literally forgotten you were his partner with how he acted on day one and then why would you be doing this work to really keep dsell on the table anyway.

So yea it’s gotta be joseph
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1017 on: September 11, 2018, 01:43:43 pm »

Also robz I think dsell is town because no one thinks it’s dsell.

Scum has to pick one town to just go with at the end and convince to lynch two other townies. Galz/joseph both lined up you after the other one went down.

You could be scum but again then gkrieg has to have literally forgotten you were his partner with how he acted on day one two and then why would you be doing this work to really keep dsell on the table anyway.

So yea it’s gotta be joseph
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1018 on: September 11, 2018, 01:44:04 pm »

Fine, Delay vote: Joseph, though I assume this is not legal.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1019 on: September 11, 2018, 01:44:20 pm »

Can we just delay vote: Joseph and get our darn flips.

With some peeps left alive galz came under pressure and self voted, he was [insert flip] the misunderstood town who mcmc is sorry he doesn’t read good (like a school for ants), or he was [insert flip] the slow rolled of the century and shouldn’t have kept the act up this long (for real tho plz).

Yaaarg I died in the night I was blah blah blah a town. As you all knew.

Dsell and Robzors were good little pups and lynched joseph, he was [insert flip] under the radar scum who’s partner got caught earlier then expected, or [insert flip] under the radar town who’s partners wish he was more active.

MVP goes to awaclus or mcmc depending on how good your memory is, or robz or dsell for being sneaky bois
This would be a terrible idea.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1020 on: September 11, 2018, 01:45:54 pm »

Mcmc, please make this your signature

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« Reply #1021 on: September 11, 2018, 01:48:54 pm »

Can we just delay vote: Joseph and get our darn flips.

With some peeps left alive galz came under pressure and self voted, he was [insert flip] the misunderstood town who mcmc is sorry he doesn’t read good (like a school for ants), or he was [insert flip] the slow rolled of the century and shouldn’t have kept the act up this long (for real tho plz).

Yaaarg I died in the night I was blah blah blah a town. As you all knew.

Dsell and Robzors were good little pups and lynched joseph, he was [insert flip] under the radar scum who’s partner got caught earlier then expected, or [insert flip] under the radar town who’s partners wish he was more active.

MVP goes to awaclus or mcmc depending on how good your memory is, or robz or dsell for being sneaky bois
This would be a terrible idea.
If I get lynched, a big part of the blame has to go to you

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Yea yea but that really here nor there. The function of the plan is great and if we don’t go through with it and you are scum a big part of my pent up anxiety has to go to you.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1022 on: September 11, 2018, 01:51:57 pm »

I guess I'm just uncomfortable with how easy Dsell has had it this game. Never really suspected, nobody voted for him, got to act all exuberant and positive because it was his first game back and golly gee he's just happy to be playing again.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1023 on: September 11, 2018, 01:54:09 pm »

I'm not sure where all this confidence  Dsell is town is coming from, though I will defer to you.

Also, I'm having flashbacks to a previous game, somewhere in the 97-107s, where I was in a final three with Andrew and Joseph, and chose Joseph because his play was sort of weird and had irked me and he hadn't said much all game--just like this--but of course he was town and I'd been played by a masterful scum Andrew performance.

Dsell is town for me because, like myself, he was the target lynch of Gkrieg for much of D2, and then he was the first to push e's lynch on D3. It's possible Gkrueg was trying to bus him. It's also possible he was early voting e for town cred. But neither you, nor Joseph have either of those things going for you, which simply makes Dsell seem much more likely to be town.

I bolded the above part, this is false!

I investigated Datswan and got scum.  Maybe I was framed, as cops make good frame targets since we now know that the fake cop is regular scum not traitor, probably would have investigated a VT had I thought more about it but I just got excited when gkrieg flipped traitor and with my limited access over the weekend went with the first thing that I thought of.

There's a mcmc post, and then me.

What E said: "Lol I am mafia."

Dsell's post also suspecting E came later.

There's a difference, for me, between stating you find someone or something scummy, and actually voting. There's next to no accountability to the former. D3 went on for awhile - lots happened. Even with e universally scum read. There was a time, especially towards the end, when I, along with others, pumped the brakes a little to make sure we fully explored all options and didn't run headlong into a bad lynch like D1. Dsell was the first to vote onto e - I don't think he would've rushed to do so as scum. There was time and opportunity to wait and see where the day went.

Add in Gkrieg's push of Dsell and me D2 - and it just doesn't all add up to a series of partner-y interactions.

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Also robz I think dsell is town because no one thinks it’s dsell.

Scum has to pick one town to just go with at the end and convince to lynch two other townies. Galz/joseph both lined up you after the other one went down.

This - Scum!Joseph knows that Dsell's reads aligned with mine, and that you were our #2. That makes you the next most viable lynch behind him - he's gonna need help to win so he needs to choose which townie to play to. Dsell is the obvious choice.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #1024 on: September 11, 2018, 01:56:00 pm »

Can we just delay vote: Joseph and get our darn flips.

With some peeps left alive galz came under pressure and self voted, he was [insert flip] the misunderstood town who mcmc is sorry he doesn’t read good (like a school for ants), or he was [insert flip] the slow rolled of the century and shouldn’t have kept the act up this long (for real tho plz).

Yaaarg I died in the night I was blah blah blah a town. As you all knew.

Dsell and Robzors were good little pups and lynched joseph, he was [insert flip] under the radar scum who’s partner got caught earlier then expected, or [insert flip] under the radar town who’s partners wish he was more active.

MVP goes to awaclus or mcmc depending on how good your memory is, or robz or dsell for being sneaky bois
This would be a terrible idea.
If I get lynched, a big part of the blame has to go to you

PPE: 3

That's not really fair to Mcmc. If I wasn't lynched today it was gonna be you anyway - so you essentially had no outs. If anything, he's given you a slim glimmer of hope.
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.


Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9
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