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Author Topic: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Game Over, Town Wins!)  (Read 14938 times)

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #625 on: August 30, 2018, 09:34:15 pm »

In fact, unvote: gkrieg.

I fully intend to put my vote back on soon but I am spooked by the trigger fingers around here and I have more reading to do before day's end.

This is overly cautious and bad!

I am completely planning to vote for him again but I was leaving computer access and I didn't know if/when I would have access again tonight. I didn't want any clowns hammering before I was back...again
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #626 on: August 30, 2018, 10:39:55 pm »

Whatís everyoneís availability gonna be like? Do we wanna set a soft DL?
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #627 on: August 31, 2018, 12:44:31 am »

I should have lots of availability tomorrow during the day, very little in the evening, not much Saturday morning, and then Saturday afternoon leading up to deadline is an unknown, but I will prioritize this if we are down to the wire at all.

Tomorrow morning I'm going to finish a reread of one person, probably drop some thoughts on that and other reads, then put my vote back on gkrieg.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #628 on: August 31, 2018, 12:50:11 am »

Thor's Well

Also this is so gorgeous. I just researched this spot and now I want to go. If anyone's thinking about visiting the PNW, I highly recommend it. I'm from OR and there are amazing gems like this all over the place.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #629 on: August 31, 2018, 01:40:49 am »

Sorry guys not going to have time to reread and then Iím leaving tomorrow. LaLight and Joseph are townie. Awaclus and mcmcsalot also townie, but Iím less sure of those two. Galz disappeared when a wagon was formed on him and is probably scum.

I still think Robz wanting a quickhammer was scummy D1

Datswan is the scummiest of the cops, e was only scummy for the hammer D1 but has had a townie D2.

No idea on Hydrad and DSell was just scummy for the coaching although I feel like he has honestly been scum hunting so Iím reading townier on him now.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #630 on: August 31, 2018, 04:27:18 am »

Hi, sorry, was unavailable. Here now
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #631 on: August 31, 2018, 04:31:48 am »

what is Hydrad's scum meta?

My meta for scum is this. Either a) heavy lurking.

Or b) posts feeling very forced.

Basically as scum I have a hard time posting and when I try to post to make it look like I'm not lurking the posts look pretty forced and with almost no content.

I've known this is my meta for years but the reason I'm a bad scum player is that even though I know my meta I can't break it.

Now obviously you probably won't beleive me but figured I'd let you know

Putin this out there
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #632 on: August 31, 2018, 05:44:57 am »

what is Hydrad's scum meta?

My meta for scum is this. Either a) heavy lurking.

Or b) posts feeling very forced.

Basically as scum I have a hard time posting and when I try to post to make it look like I'm not lurking the posts look pretty forced and with almost no content.

I've known this is my meta for years but the reason I'm a bad scum player is that even though I know my meta I can't break it.

Now obviously you probably won't beleive me but figured I'd let you know

Putin this out there
Putin? Is Hydrad Vladimir Putin? That would be a change twist to the game
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #633 on: August 31, 2018, 05:45:17 am »

And I'm away most of the day today
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #634 on: August 31, 2018, 11:05:16 am »

Would have been great to L-1 gkrieg before he disappeared, in case he was the Insane Cop and needed to claim...
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #635 on: August 31, 2018, 11:24:51 am »

Finished reread on Hydrad again. Actually seemed really towny. A little clumsy, but in a way that I don't think scum would be. This post is very towny to me, and I'm surprised it didn't jump out the last time I did a reread:

so the reason i was dissapointed was I was pretty sure when faust died that we were going to have a high chance in finding scum.

My theory was that scum team killed faust to try to let their partner get a better chance to claim. (plus its faust so may as well).

But anyways if I was traitor and going to claim I would of claimed faust was guilty. because why would scum team frame faust. all that would do is mess up my chance to claim the nice 2-2 split.

Then with both cops claiming town results right away that made it even more likely in my opinion for them to have not framed faust. I feel like traitor would have said faust was scum for his result (due to my logic above) if he went first in the claiming order so when both cops claimed town I was going to instantly assume that if there were 2 people that claimed faust was scum that one of them was scum.

So in reality I think we would of been hoping for the 2-2 split because I think we would of hit scum in the guilty section and make it a 50-50 in finding them. Which hilariously means I think the correct decision for traitor if they would have claimed would to make it the 3-1 split instead.

Anyways all this is pointless now but I was really excited to bring this up and find scum.

So I guess all in all the traitor either
a) realized that if they claimed it probably wouldn't have worked as well as they had hoped.
or
b) is near the top of the list.

I guess it could be both a and b but whatever, I wanted to seem smart.

That just doesn't feel like scum to me.

Vote: Gkrieg

Will be doing some more rereads today.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #636 on: August 31, 2018, 11:46:17 am »

I did a reread of Robz. I am a little on the fence about Robz but think that Gkrieg's flip will be very telling. Robz has been a big pusher of the wagons. If Gkrieg flips scum, Robz is confirmed town in my mind. If Gkrieg flips town, I will be pretty suspicious of him tomorrow.

LaLight and Joseph, you have been opposed to the Gkrieg lynch and more in favor of a Robz lynch - do you agree that a Gkrieg lynch will be highly informative? If he flips town, I will come around to your arguments that he is pushing wagons in a scummy way. But Gkrieg I think is most likely scum, and enthusiastically pushing a wagon on scum (especially when there are only 2 scum currently, sort of) is a very town thing to do.

I think mcmc is very towny, as I've said before. Strong scumhunting.

Galz has done excellent work on the setup analysis. Not as much scumhunting or activity of any kind in the last couple days, hope to hear more from him soon. Overall feeling towny with an outside chance of "oh shit my scumpartner is catching a lot of suspicion and I can't stop it so I'm going to lay low."
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #637 on: August 31, 2018, 11:47:26 am »

LaLight and Joseph, you have been opposed to the Gkrieg lynch and more in favor of a Robz lynch - do you agree that a Gkrieg lynch will be highly informative? If he flips town, I will come around to your arguments that he is pushing wagons in a scummy way.

Not my strongest use of pronouns here. If Gkrieg flips town, I will come around to your arguments that Robz is pushing wagons in a scummy way.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #638 on: August 31, 2018, 11:50:30 am »

Wait gkrieg will still have some access right?
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #639 on: August 31, 2018, 11:59:02 am »

I did a reread of Robz. I am a little on the fence about Robz but think that Gkrieg's flip will be very telling. Robz has been a big pusher of the wagons. If Gkrieg flips scum, Robz is confirmed town in my mind. If Gkrieg flips town, I will be pretty suspicious of him tomorrow.

LaLight and Joseph, you have been opposed to the Gkrieg lynch and more in favor of a Robz lynch - do you agree that a Gkrieg lynch will be highly informative? If he flips town, I will come around to your arguments that he is pushing wagons in a scummy way. But Gkrieg I think is most likely scum, and enthusiastically pushing a wagon on scum (especially when there are only 2 scum currently, sort of) is a very town thing to do.

I think mcmc is very towny, as I've said before. Strong scumhunting.

Galz has done excellent work on the setup analysis. Not as much scumhunting or activity of any kind in the last couple days, hope to hear more from him soon. Overall feeling towny with an outside chance of "oh shit my scumpartner is catching a lot of suspicion and I can't stop it so I'm going to lay low."
Honestly, I'd prefer to just lynch scum. But if the choice is Gkrieg or no lynch, then I'll vote
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #640 on: August 31, 2018, 11:59:17 am »

How long til deadline by the way?
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #641 on: August 31, 2018, 12:04:17 pm »

How long til deadline by the way?
So deadline is Saturday, 01 September 2018, 22:30:00- that'll be 3:30am Sunday morning for me, so I won't be around at deadline
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #642 on: August 31, 2018, 12:08:56 pm »

Wait gkrieg will still have some access right?

Yes some
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #643 on: August 31, 2018, 12:12:43 pm »

Iguana: If a (sane) cop investigates the traitor the same night that the mafia kill the traitor, would the traitor show up as town or scum?

I would still love an answer to this, if that's allowed.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day One!)
« Reply #644 on: August 31, 2018, 12:14:39 pm »

gkrieg13 - he is awesome! Considered as one of the best players of modern community, gkrieg always plays extremely pro-town and can guess the whole scum-team in his first post and be right. That's why, along with faust, he is usually a N1 kill.

I am starting my rereads now and I wanted to ask LaLight how well you think gkrieg is fitting in with his usual town play thus far?

@LaLight still curious about this as well.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day One!)
« Reply #645 on: August 31, 2018, 12:17:43 pm »

gkrieg13 - he is awesome! Considered as one of the best players of modern community, gkrieg always plays extremely pro-town and can guess the whole scum-team in his first post and be right. That's why, along with faust, he is usually a N1 kill.

I am starting my rereads now and I wanted to ask LaLight how well you think gkrieg is fitting in with his usual town play thus far?

@LaLight still curious about this as well.

Not so well. But last couple of games he behaved same as town, you can look at M117 for instance
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day One!)
« Reply #646 on: August 31, 2018, 12:46:30 pm »

gkrieg13 - he is awesome! Considered as one of the best players of modern community, gkrieg always plays extremely pro-town and can guess the whole scum-team in his first post and be right. That's why, along with faust, he is usually a N1 kill.

I am starting my rereads now and I wanted to ask LaLight how well you think gkrieg is fitting in with his usual town play thus far?

@LaLight still curious about this as well.

Not so well. But last couple of games he behaved same as town, you can look at M117 for instance

Mainly I think I've stopped having time to do rereads and stuff, which makes me much less townie and also just less useful.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day One!)
« Reply #647 on: August 31, 2018, 02:26:51 pm »

gkrieg13 - he is awesome! Considered as one of the best players of modern community, gkrieg always plays extremely pro-town and can guess the whole scum-team in his first post and be right. That's why, along with faust, he is usually a N1 kill.

I am starting my rereads now and I wanted to ask LaLight how well you think gkrieg is fitting in with his usual town play thus far?

@LaLight still curious about this as well.

Not so well. But last couple of games he behaved same as town, you can look at M117 for instance

Mainly I think I've stopped having time to do rereads and stuff, which makes me much less townie and also just less useful.

I still think you are towny. But it's not looking good for you. If you aren't on robz yet you should join me so he dies over you
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #648 on: August 31, 2018, 09:22:15 pm »

Mack Arch

Vote count 2.6

Galzria (2): Awaclus, gkrieg13
Robz888 (3): Joseph2302, Hydrad, Lalight
gkrieg13 (4): McMcsalot, Robz888, 2.71828..., Dsell

not voting (2): Galzria, DatSwan

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 1 ends, Saturday, September 01, 2018, 05:30:00 pm That's in less than 24 hours.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #649 on: August 31, 2018, 09:42:43 pm »

So today has been almost silent. Tomorrow is weekend which means less participation. I will be gone most of the day.
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