OK now that I have given up on looking at the cops, I have started looking at the not cops. Posting in segments based on importance because we have two days left and it will take me the rest of tonight to finish up.
Most important first.
GK:
1) I am just like on the top of the damn fence with this one. First major Town-Point for me comes at the end of D1 when he put PPS at L-1. The general consensus seemed to be everyone wanted to lynch PPS because they could flip Traitor. If GK is Mafia, he would NOT want that obviously. This led me to the skummy side of it - meaning if GK is the Traitor he would obv know that it was town and ect. I just cant entertain the idea at this point of a Non-Cop being the traitor. I even looked into it, and there is like 1 post to E! about "I couldn't believe you ended up being IC".. but it is nowhere near enough.
2) This Town-Point is negated by the fact that I CAN however, entertain the idea that both PPS and GK have probably played.... dozens? of games together. So GK could of been confident as Mafia that it was town!PPS
3) Other skummy things include
#213: Votes Dsell based in some way on them wanting to do free form claiming instead of sign up order - as they were second to last, if they are Mafia this would make sense.
#291: They were LITERALLY the only player in the entire game to feel the need to point out that... I NEVER CLAIMED! (which is totally fair, but is also skummy bc of where we are now)
#463: Not getting into it - but these are my reads - so while I cannot put a finger on it... suggesting skum will not kill within the cops bc of PoE is just offputting.
#458: The Joseph sheeping vote is weird. It took the 3-3 wagon at the time and turned it into 4-2 and Robz still had a live vote to use. (without going into detail GK, this is the large reason why I think there is skum between GK/Robz/Joseph. It will make more sense later after the other read posts).
and then there is this...
#543 - Claims to not understand why the Traitor has been assumed to be the fake cop instead of the other Mafia.
#557 - Next post. Scum slip case on Robz, regarding the gender he used to refer to skum. That is all fine and silly. Here is what is weird. As of GK's last post, they "did not understand why it had to be the Traitor as the fake cop" - this is to say, I am assuming at least, that they thought it was possible that fake cop could be regular mafia. In this very next post, their mindset has changed... the gender thing doesn't matter, it is that they said "I want to call this a scum slip, but I can't bc traitor knows mafia instead of the other way around." - I read that as "this seems skummy except for the fact it can't be because the Traitor has to be one of the cops". Those back to back posts do not follow the same mindset.... Far fetched, just pointing it out. Also if I caught skum on a skum slip while they were promoting a skum slip that would be just peaches.
I am not going to take the time to bullet point everything GK has done that i think could be towny. Let's just say I find their general gameplay to be towny combined with the fact that they have made several errors regarding the set up that they had to correct themselves about. I am marking that trait to this point as kind of towny - a) because I have done the same thing... probably more then they have, and b) upon thinking about it, I agree with Dsell's point about comprehending the set up as town.. which would mean, a skum player would probably be all over that shit.
That is a lot of me arguing with myself, which is why I was hesitant to look outside the cops.... As it appears GK is our best option... and I don't even really like that option all that much. Need to look at Robz for sure, and then I have one other I wanna read through before I decide though.
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