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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #300 on: August 26, 2018, 09:56:25 pm »

The other two ICs have their vote on Galzria. e, what do you think about that read?
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #301 on: August 26, 2018, 09:56:40 pm »

Am I correct in taking the following:

"Each night, you may visit one person. That player will investigate as a city for that night."

To mean that scum cannot reverse results on themselves?

If a Sane Cop (e, LaLight) gets a scum result, then either they have scum or a framed player.

However if an Insane Cop gets a TOWN result, they know that they've found scum, correct? There is no variable?

Scratch that. I'm being stupid. A framed town should result in TOWN to an insane cop.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #302 on: August 26, 2018, 09:59:27 pm »

The other two ICs have their vote on Galzria. e, what do you think about that read?

If the IC's wanna lynch me, that's fine. Somebody needs to die today. But for the love of all things sane (and insane), don't frakkin quick lynch again. My reads as town are generally very, very good, and I want to have everything out there before my death - not to mention the fact that we may be able to work through a semi-solid solution to the game if we put in the time now.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #303 on: August 26, 2018, 10:00:35 pm »

The other two ICs have their vote on Galzria. e, what do you think about that read?

I need to look back over the game with the new information.  Looking at the 8 people in the lynchpool for today it is interesting that 4 were on wagon and 4 were off wagon D1.  I lean toward at least one scum jumping on wagon yesterday, kind of think that may be a good place to start, and Galzria isn't there.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day One!)
« Reply #304 on: August 26, 2018, 10:03:14 pm »

Day 1 final vote count
Lalight (1): Awaclus
gkrieg13 (1): Hydrad
pingpongsam (7): faust, McMcsalot, Joseph2302, Robz888, Lalight, gkrieg13, 2.71828...

not voting (4): Dsell, DatSwan, pingpongsam, Galzria

With 13 alive, it took 7 to lynch.

3 scum in: {Galzria, Awaclus, Mcmc, Robz, Joseph, Hydrad, Dsell, Gkrieg}

Awaclus, Hydrad, Dsell, Galzria off wagon
mcmc, Robz, Joseph, gkrieg on wagon
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #305 on: August 26, 2018, 10:03:23 pm »

unvote: Datswan, obviously.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #306 on: August 26, 2018, 10:08:04 pm »

Fwiw I think Galz was doing really solid setup analysis and not that many others were. It could be bold play from scumGalz but he gets a lot of townpoints from me for that and I would oppose his lynch today.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #307 on: August 26, 2018, 10:08:37 pm »

e, before posting any analysis of your own, I would suggest that you (and the other IC's) request of us 8 to put together our best cases/reads at this point in the game. It forces the VT's to make cases independent of the IC's. It's unfortunate that you three don't have daychat, but you should keep your own notes and thoughts private until it's time to do the deed and lynch somebody (or for you to talk amongst yourselves).

If that seems needless, then whatever - but I think it's better to force scum to choose their interactions without helpful guidance from the IC's.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #308 on: August 26, 2018, 10:09:44 pm »

e, before posting any analysis of your own, I would suggest that you (and the other IC's) request of us 8 to put together our best cases/reads at this point in the game. It forces the VT's to make cases independent of the IC's. It's unfortunate that you three don't have daychat, but you should keep your own notes and thoughts private until it's time to do the deed and lynch somebody (or for you to talk amongst yourselves).

If that seems needless, then whatever - but I think it's better to force scum to choose their interactions without helpful guidance from the IC's.

On that note - I'm off work for today and all of tomorrow, so I'll get to work on it myself.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #309 on: August 26, 2018, 10:17:52 pm »

e, before posting any analysis of your own, I would suggest that you (and the other IC's) request of us 8 to put together our best cases/reads at this point in the game. It forces the VT's to make cases independent of the IC's. It's unfortunate that you three don't have daychat, but you should keep your own notes and thoughts private until it's time to do the deed and lynch somebody (or for you to talk amongst yourselves).

If that seems needless, then whatever - but I think it's better to force scum to choose their interactions without helpful guidance from the IC's.

I am terrible at talking to myself in my qt. 

That being said, I am off to bed myself.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #310 on: August 26, 2018, 11:35:06 pm »

so the reason i was dissapointed was I was pretty sure when faust died that we were going to have a high chance in finding scum.

My theory was that scum team killed faust to try to let their partner get a better chance to claim. (plus its faust so may as well).

But anyways if I was traitor and going to claim I would of claimed faust was guilty. because why would scum team frame faust. all that would do is mess up my chance to claim the nice 2-2 split.

Then with both cops claiming town results right away that made it even more likely in my opinion for them to have not framed faust. I feel like traitor would have said faust was scum for his result (due to my logic above) if he went first in the claiming order so when both cops claimed town I was going to instantly assume that if there were 2 people that claimed faust was scum that one of them was scum.

So in reality I think we would of been hoping for the 2-2 split because I think we would of hit scum in the guilty section and make it a 50-50 in finding them. Which hilariously means I think the correct decision for traitor if they would have claimed would to make it the 3-1 split instead.

Anyways all this is pointless now but I was really excited to bring this up and find scum.

So I guess all in all the traitor either
a) realized that if they claimed it probably wouldn't have worked as well as they had hoped.
or
b) is near the top of the list.

I guess it could be both a and b but whatever, I wanted to seem smart.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #311 on: August 26, 2018, 11:37:31 pm »

as for who is scummy out of the "vts" galz this game is feeling scummy to me just because I feel like he was fighting the plan the most out of everyone. Which doesn't mean its really a bad thing. Its just in my eyes it was so towny of a plan that I couldn't really understand why galz would fight it. I guess there is also the thought that if he was scum would he step out that far to fight it and make himself the center of attention?

Either way I don't have many other reads I think so

Vote: Galz
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #312 on: August 27, 2018, 12:25:14 am »

also. just incase I die. I don't see a single reason for cops to not claim their results every day right? Just wanting to make sure that people are aware of this I guess.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #313 on: August 27, 2018, 02:10:34 am »

speak up now before I claim it out.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #314 on: August 27, 2018, 04:56:56 am »

oh wow I have never been an IC
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #315 on: August 27, 2018, 04:57:55 am »

Can please everyone state their top scumreads?
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #316 on: August 27, 2018, 04:58:22 am »

also. just incase I die. I don't see a single reason for cops to not claim their results every day right? Just wanting to make sure that people are aware of this I guess.

People are. You dying seems like an improbable course of action.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #317 on: August 27, 2018, 04:58:41 am »

People, how do you think who is a Traitor and why?
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #318 on: August 27, 2018, 04:58:57 am »

I remind you that traitor knows who are scum.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #319 on: August 27, 2018, 04:59:32 am »

Also I changed my mind a little. Let's lynch Awaclus vote: Awaclus
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #320 on: August 27, 2018, 05:03:27 am »

I am so glad e and DatSwan are ics because I scumread both a little.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #321 on: August 27, 2018, 05:15:33 am »

also. just incase I die. I don't see a single reason for cops to not claim their results every day right? Just wanting to make sure that people are aware of this I guess.

People are. You dying seems like an improbable course of action.

Yeah, and hydrad bringing it up seems a little off to me.

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #322 on: August 27, 2018, 06:33:19 am »

Also I changed my mind a little. Let's lynch Awaclus vote: Awaclus

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #323 on: August 27, 2018, 06:35:01 am »

Also I changed my mind a little. Let's lynch Awaclus vote: Awaclus

Let's not lynch Awaclus.

I will consider your proposal.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #324 on: August 27, 2018, 07:46:27 am »

But yeah, Hydrad.

First post is joking about being scum
Oh man galz is onto me with the lurking part and scum team. Guess I'll post something.

Then a couple votes on Joseph and Gkrieg

Then a bunch of theory talk before the lynch happens. 

Opens D2 with this
oh look faust is dead. unfortunate.

and his latest post
also. just incase I die. I don't see a single reason for cops to not claim their results every day right? Just wanting to make sure that people are aware of this I guess.

Was combined with the previous post jumping on the popular wagon of the day, Galzria.

It just feels that Hydrad is almost trying too hard to fit in and be towny.  Off the D1 wagon, but that will be more relevant as time goes by for D4 and later.  I like where my vote is on Hydrad.
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