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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #275 on: August 26, 2018, 05:17:58 pm »

Just waiting it out.

Also signup order is as good as I think we could have done as in a way it was made by an ic and scum has no influence on it

LaLight is not an IC
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #276 on: August 26, 2018, 05:21:21 pm »

Just waiting it out.

Also signup order is as good as I think we could have done as in a way it was made by an ic and scum has no influence on it

LaLight is not an IC

Oh come on, who's more obviously town?
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #277 on: August 26, 2018, 05:49:24 pm »

Just waiting it out.

Also signup order is as good as I think we could have done as in a way it was made by an ic and scum has no influence on it

LaLight is not an IC

Oh come on, who's more obviously town?

That's an incredibly scummy and self-serving position to take. Town rarely calls themselves the most obv!town player in the game.

Regardless, my point wasn't whether or not you were townie, or had done townie things, it was that you were not - and are not - in any way an IC at this point, nor should you be treated as such. This may change, of course - if we end up with only 3 claims then yes, you are an IC, as are the other two claimants. Likewise if one more person claims town results on faust, then the single scum result will be an IC cop. That's how these results work. That's the point of the claims.

Nobody has IC status right now, and it's premature to credit anybody with that status.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #278 on: August 26, 2018, 05:50:20 pm »

Just waiting it out.

Also signup order is as good as I think we could have done as in a way it was made by an ic and scum has no influence on it

LaLight is not an IC

Sorry. I kinda meant the mod is an IC. But I should have phrased that better
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #279 on: August 26, 2018, 06:04:41 pm »

Just waiting it out.

Also signup order is as good as I think we could have done as in a way it was made by an ic and scum has no influence on it

LaLight is not an IC

Oh come on, who's more obviously town?

That's an incredibly scummy and self-serving position to take. Town rarely calls themselves the most obv!town player in the game.

Nice shading you get there. I am saying this stuff as any alignment in every game. There was a game where chairs was even annoyed by that.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day One!)
« Reply #280 on: August 26, 2018, 07:02:21 pm »

Devil's Punchbowl

Vote count 2.1

Dsell (1): gkrieg13
DatSwan (1): Galzria
Galzria (2): DatSwan, Lalight

not voting (7): Awaclus, 2.71828..., McMcsalot, Robz888, Joseph2302, Hydrad, Dsell

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 1 ends, Saturday, September 01, 2018, 05:30:00 pm
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #281 on: August 26, 2018, 07:37:59 pm »

Just waiting it out.

Also signup order is as good as I think we could have done as in a way it was made by an ic and scum has no influence on it

LaLight is not an IC

Oh come on, who's more obviously town?

That's an incredibly scummy and self-serving position to take. Town rarely calls themselves the most obv!town player in the game.

Nice shading you get there. I am saying this stuff as any alignment in every game. There was a game where chairs was even annoyed by that.

Nice ignoring of the actual point.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #282 on: August 26, 2018, 07:41:54 pm »

7. Joseph2302
8. Hydrad
9. Dsell
10. gkrieg13
11. DatSwan
I'm VT
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Mafia Stats: (correct as of 2017)
Town: 22 games, 8 wins
Scum: 5 games, 3 wins

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #283 on: August 26, 2018, 07:46:58 pm »

Vt
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #284 on: August 26, 2018, 07:48:27 pm »

I am VT.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #285 on: August 26, 2018, 08:51:52 pm »

we almost done the claiming!
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #286 on: August 26, 2018, 09:11:23 pm »

Vt
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #287 on: August 26, 2018, 09:14:36 pm »

aww man. i'm dissapointed.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #288 on: August 26, 2018, 09:16:47 pm »

This is good news!! No counter claims!
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #289 on: August 26, 2018, 09:18:23 pm »

aww man. i'm dissapointed.

Why? We'll now have 3 IC's, and all scum in VT's. That's fantastic
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #290 on: August 26, 2018, 09:25:54 pm »

Wait did Datswan already claim?
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #291 on: August 26, 2018, 09:28:07 pm »

Wait did Datswan already claim?

No,  but he's the last person and we only have 2 claims. That makes him the insane cop with a guilty result on faust. The other two are sane cops with their confirmed town results.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #292 on: August 26, 2018, 09:38:03 pm »

DSell is scum because he was coaching the traitor on how to act.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #293 on: August 26, 2018, 09:42:09 pm »

DSell is scum because he was coaching the traitor on how to act.

Absolutely incorrect. I stand by what I was saying - claim order could have screwed us if the traitor happened to be late in the claim order. We got lucky that it worked out. Doing freeform claim or a popcorn claim would have put pressure on the traitor no matter when they claimed, rather it relying on RNG.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #294 on: August 26, 2018, 09:44:37 pm »

3 scum in: {Galzria, Awaclus, Mcmc, Robz, Joseph, Hydrad, Dsell, Gkrieg}

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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #295 on: August 26, 2018, 09:48:26 pm »

DSell is scum because he was coaching the traitor on how to act.

Absolutely incorrect. I stand by what I was saying - claim order could have screwed us if the traitor happened to be late in the claim order. We got lucky that it worked out. Doing freeform claim or a popcorn claim would have put pressure on the traitor no matter when they claimed, rather it relying on RNG.

Assuming our reads (town, everybody) in general are above random (and I should hope that they are), then yes, a popcorn claim in order of highest scum read will serve town with better results overall than going by anything pure random over a large enough sample size. Here, the results could not have worked out better, so the point is moot.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #296 on: August 26, 2018, 09:50:30 pm »

DSell is scum because he was coaching the traitor on how to act.

Absolutely incorrect. I stand by what I was saying - claim order could have screwed us if the traitor happened to be late in the claim order. We got lucky that it worked out. Doing freeform claim or a popcorn claim would have put pressure on the traitor no matter when they claimed, rather it relying on RNG.

Assuming our reads (town, everybody) in general are above random (and I should hope that they are), then yes, a popcorn claim in order of highest scum read will serve town with better results overall than going by anything pure random over a large enough sample size. Here, the results could not have worked out better, so the point is moot.

Agreed the point is moot - except that it undermine's Gkrieg's "coaching traitor" accusation and vote on me.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #297 on: August 26, 2018, 09:52:00 pm »

3 scum in: {Galzria, Awaclus, Mcmc, Robz, Joseph, Hydrad, Dsell, Gkrieg}

Likewise, LaLight, e, and DatSwan are ICs (innocent cops).
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #298 on: August 26, 2018, 09:52:39 pm »

Well, that worked out nicely.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #299 on: August 26, 2018, 09:55:39 pm »

Am I correct in taking the following:

"Each night, you may visit one person. That player will investigate as a city for that night."

To mean that scum cannot reverse results on themselves?

If a Sane Cop (e, LaLight) gets a scum result, then either they have scum or a framed player.

However if an Insane Cop gets a TOWN result, they know that they've found scum, correct? There is no variable?
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9
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