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Author Topic: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Game Over, Town Wins!)  (Read 123296 times)

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #875 on: September 07, 2018, 02:45:56 pm »

The locals always told jokes about how the police in Seattle would give any homeless person they could find a free bus ticket to Spokane. That didn't stop the citizens of Spokane from their utter astonishment when three busses pulled up and started unloading all kinds of societal rejects and misfits.

"Seattle couldn't take us anymore," they explained. "It's too full. So they told us we could come here."

Lalight died in the night! He was Spokane, a town cop.

Day 5 starts now!

Vote count 5.0

not voting (5): Galzria, McMcsalot, Robz888, Joseph2302, Dsell

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day 5 ends, Friday, September 14, 2018, 05:30:00 pm.

Mod note: I got sent home early due to rain, so here is an early day start.

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #876 on: September 07, 2018, 03:02:56 pm »

Well damn, scum got lucky in framing Hydrad.

So we have mcmc is IC, and scum in {Galzria, McMcsalot, Robz888}

Going to need a serious re-read as that's the only way we can get more information now our cops are gone
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #877 on: September 07, 2018, 03:04:10 pm »

Scum wouldn't have framed either cop or mcmc or themselves, which leaves 4 other targets

So basically there's about a 1 in 4 that Hydrad was framed, 3 in 4 that they're scum

Isn't it 1-5? So even better odds to lynch me!
Not that it really matters, but it was 1 in 4.
Scum wouldn't have framed themselves, mcmc or LL, as that would be pointless. So 4 possible targets left
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #878 on: September 07, 2018, 03:20:48 pm »

Well damn, scum got lucky in framing Hydrad.

So we have mcmc is IC, and scum in {Galzria, McMcsalot, Robz888}

Going to need a serious re-read as that's the only way we can get more information now our cops are gone

I am alive too. Not scum, but still here.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #879 on: September 07, 2018, 03:33:34 pm »

Well damn, scum got lucky in framing Hydrad.

So we have mcmc is IC, and scum in {Galzria, McMcsalot, Robz888}

Going to need a serious re-read as that's the only way we can get more information now our cops are gone

I am alive too. Not scum, but still here.
That's because it meant to read one scum in {Galzria, Dsell, Robz888}
Obviously the IC isn't scum.....
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day One!)
« Reply #880 on: September 07, 2018, 03:41:42 pm »

For reference, vote counts:

Day 1 final vote count
Lalight (1): Awaclus
gkrieg13 (1): Hydrad
pingpongsam (7): faust, McMcsalot, Joseph2302, Robz888, Lalight, gkrieg13, 2.71828...

not voting (4): Dsell, DatSwan, pingpongsam, Galzria

With 13 alive, it took 7 to lynch.
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Day 2 Final Vote Count

Galzria (1): gkrieg13
Robz888 (3): Joseph2302, Hydrad, Lalight
gkrieg13 (6): McMcsalot, Robz888, 2.71828..., Dsell, DatSwan, Awaclus

not voting (1): Galzria

Vote count 3.3

2.71828... (5): Dsell, Lalight, Robz888, Galzria, DatSwan

not voting (4): 2.71828..., McMcsalot, Joseph2302, Hydrad

D4 voters: LL, Joseph2302, Robz, Glazria
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #881 on: September 07, 2018, 03:45:28 pm »

I definitely think today (in game) will be a day for rereads. During the game thus far I haven't had major suspicions of anyone who's still alive. I have had strong town feelings about some but it's time to throw those notions out and start from scratch.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #882 on: September 07, 2018, 03:46:01 pm »

so, of the 5 people left:

mcmc is IC
I was on mislynch D1, not on traitor lynch D2, not on scum lynch D3, on mislynch D4
Galzria was not on mislynch D1, not on traitor lynch D2, on scum lynch D3, on mislynch D4
Dsell was not on mislynch D1, on traitor lynch D2, on scum lynch D3, not on mislynch D4
Robz was on mislynch D1, on traitor lynch D2, on scum lynch D3, on mislynch D4

PPE: 1
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #883 on: September 07, 2018, 03:46:49 pm »

That's interesting. Because I'm town, that means scum bussed e on D3
Hardly surprising, but interesting to know
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #884 on: September 07, 2018, 03:47:19 pm »

So, this is where I'm at:

D1:
Day 1 final vote count
Lalight (SANE COP)(1): Awaclus (INSANE COP)
gkrieg13 (TRAITOR)(1): Hydrad (VT)
pingpongsam (VT)(7): faust (VT), McMcsalot (VT), Joseph2302 (VT), Robz888 (VT), Lalight (SANE COP), gkrieg13 (TRAITOR), 2.71828... (MAFIA)

not voting (4): Dsell (VT), DatSwan (SANE COP), pingpongsam (VT), Galzria (VT)

With 13 alive, it took 7 to lynch.


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Note, so either both scum were on PPS (possible - it was a "free" wagon, in that it wasn't really scummy to be on it), or Dsell is scum.

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D2:
Day 2 Final Vote Count

Galzria (1): gkrieg13
Robz888 (3): Joseph2302, Hydrad, Lalight
gkrieg13 (6): McMcsalot, Robz888, 2.71828..., Dsell, DatSwan, Awaclus


not voting (1): Galzria

With 11 alive, it took 6 to lynch.


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Now, with this VC, either both scum were on Gkrieg (possible - they didn't know that he was the Traitor), or Joseph is scum. Also, the chances here that Robz, as a town wagon, had all three town on it seems slim - which makes Robz/Joseph a little more scummy.

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D3:
Vote count 3.3

2.71828... (5): Dsell, Lalight, Robz888, Galzria, DatSwan


not voting (4): 2.71828..., McMcsalot, Joseph2302, Hydrad

With 9 alive, it took 5 to lynch.


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With the D3 VC, e  obviously wasn't going to vote for himself - so the question is whether his partner bussed or not. If not, then his partner is Joseph. If his partner did bus, then it's either Dsell - going in at vote #1 looking for some real early town credit, or Robz at #3, getting on when it seemed clear that's where the lynch was gonna be.

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So. Points in conclusion:

- On either D1 or D2 (and possibly both), both Mafia were on wagon together.
--- These combinations are: {D1|2.7/Robz}, {D1|2.7/Joseph}, {D2|2.7/Robz}, {D2|2.7/Dsell}
- As it is easier to vote together earlier rather than later (You make up a smaller % of the wagon with co-voting earlier on), this makes Robz/Joseph slightly more likely than Dsell.
- On D3 scum either bused, or they did not. If they did, it is more likely to bus when it seems inevitable than to start the wagon - making Robz more likely than Dsell. The fact that Joseph didn't vote e is also scummy - although he did state intent to. Intent to vote scum without actually doing so is a pretty scummy place to be.

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Given all that... plus the post from Gkrieg D1 about Joseph:

"I also want to lynch Joseph real bad, so probably town there too."

And I think I prefer to lynch Joseph today.
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TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #885 on: September 07, 2018, 04:01:32 pm »

Wow we all did the vote count thing overnight huh.

Day 1 final vote count
Lalight (1): Awaclus
gkrieg13 (1): Hydrad
pingpongsam (7): faust, McMcsalot, Joseph2302, Robz888, Lalight, gkrieg13, 2.71828...
not voting (4): Dsell, DatSwan, pingpongsam, Galzria

Day 2 Final Vote Count
Galzria (1): gkrieg13
Robz888 (3): Joseph2302, Hydrad, Lalight
gkrieg13 (6): McMcsalot, Robz888, 2.71828..., Dsell, DatSwan, Awaclus
not voting (1): Galzria

Day 3 final vote count
2.71828... (5): Dsell, Lalight, Robz888, Galzria, DatSwan
not voting (4): 2.71828..., McMcsalot, Joseph2302, Hydrad

Day 4 final vote count
Hydrad (4): lalight, Joseph, Robz888, Galzria
not voting (2): mcmcsalot, dsell
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #886 on: September 07, 2018, 04:16:31 pm »

Scum wouldn't have framed either cop or mcmc or themselves, which leaves 4 other targets

So basically there's about a 1 in 4 that Hydrad was framed, 3 in 4 that they're scum

Isn't it 1-5? So even better odds to lynch me!

I don’t usually say this but that could actually be a scumslip. In scum!josephs mind he only had 4 targets to frame (dsell/robz/hydrad/galz). Town should include thenselves in potentially farmable targets.
No because whoever scum is, they wouldn't frame themselves, or the 2 ICs, leaving 4 possible targets
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Two!)
« Reply #887 on: September 07, 2018, 04:17:28 pm »

Unless we want to give lalight time to read/give thoughts I think we hammer hydrad.

I am not confident in my reads. Joseph is surprisingly extra townie in this game. I still scumread both Galz and Robz. I think I can say Dsell is town with as much assurance as possible...
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Four!)
« Reply #888 on: September 07, 2018, 04:18:35 pm »

Well even though it is to late I am town. I still think it's robz.
2 confirm!town saying it's not me. And both suggesting Robz
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Four!)
« Reply #889 on: September 07, 2018, 04:39:57 pm »

Well even though it is to late I am town. I still think it's robz.
2 confirm!town saying it's not me. And both suggesting Robz

Highly against a Robz lynch, or any lynch, until I've gone back to do some reading (and others have had the chance to do the same). Pulling old quotes is fine to defend yourself but don't expect me to join a wagon on the back of 2 quick quotes.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Four!)
« Reply #890 on: September 07, 2018, 04:50:01 pm »

Well even though it is to late I am town. I still think it's robz.
2 confirm!town saying it's not me. And both suggesting Robz

Highly against a Robz lynch, or any lynch, until I've gone back to do some reading (and others have had the chance to do the same). Pulling old quotes is fine to defend yourself but don't expect me to join a wagon on the back of 2 quick quotes.
I agree. We have 7 days, and we need to use it to best effect
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #891 on: September 07, 2018, 05:35:07 pm »

Remember, each of us suspects--me, Galz, Dsell, Joseph--have to basically pick the other person we are sure isn't scum, because we get two mislynches. When you reread, it's arguably more important to find the one person above who absolutely, positively can't be scum.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #892 on: September 07, 2018, 05:37:27 pm »

Regarding Day 1, would E hammer, knowing his partner was also on wagon? This seems sort of unlikely. Which means the last scum is Galz or Dsell.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #893 on: September 07, 2018, 05:38:01 pm »

I don't think the Day 2 wagon tells us anything, because as far as scum knew, gkrieg was town.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #894 on: September 07, 2018, 05:38:54 pm »

On Day 3, bussing seems like a good move, which again makes Dsell and Galz likely (and also me, from your perspectives).
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #895 on: September 07, 2018, 05:39:32 pm »

All of these observations have a common theme: Joseph is town. So at this point I'm looking at Galz and Dsell most closely.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #896 on: September 07, 2018, 05:40:56 pm »

Galz also seems most likely to successfully frame hydrad.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #897 on: September 07, 2018, 05:55:15 pm »

Regarding Day 1, would E hammer, knowing his partner was also on wagon? This seems sort of unlikely. Which means the last scum is Galz or Dsell.

Not really. There were 5 other people on wagon, and that left 6 off wagon - and the lynch, while dumb, was defensible by people like you pushing it to happen instantly.

I don't think the Day 2 wagon tells us anything, because as far as scum knew, gkrieg was town.

It tells us just as much as the D1 wagon, where as far as scum was concerned, PPS was town. Your choice to just dismiss this day because it's convenient for you is scummy.

On Day 3, bussing seems like a good move, which again makes Dsell and Galz likely (and also me, from your perspectives).

It is, sure - but scum (in general) also have a history of "intending to vote" for their partners, but never actually do - which is where Joseph was at.

Galz also seems most likely to successfully frame hydrad.

This is supported... how? I'm more likely than you, or Dsell, or Joseph because...?

Really, if you're scum I expected this push at me tomorrow, not today.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #898 on: September 07, 2018, 06:30:18 pm »

Hey y'all don't use bold teal text. Offenders each get a slap on the wrist.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #899 on: September 07, 2018, 06:33:13 pm »

Hey y'all don't use bold teal text. Offenders each get a slap on the wrist.

Sorry - my usage was from quoting you directly, and then removing the quote author part so that the post didn't appear block-y. I'll remove your text color as well as the quote box next time.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20
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