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Author Topic: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Game Over! Town wins flawlessly)  (Read 70683 times)

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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #550 on: August 24, 2018, 03:05:34 pm »

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« Reply #551 on: August 24, 2018, 03:05:57 pm »

Honestly really good game everyone. What a rough spot it was to jump into. I felt a little bad when I offered to sub in because often having an outside perspective can give you better reads and I had a pretty strong scum read on simon jester as I was following along. When I joined the game o was created by the fact that I was completely correct in my scum read and that he was my partner!
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #552 on: August 24, 2018, 03:08:26 pm »

Yeah, I really don't envy you that spot, nice effort in a bad situation.

Also, I'm even happier that I got page top.

Also also, What did you newbies think? This isn't really how games go that often, usually they take longer, but I do think you got a feel for how things work hopefully? Day 1 doesn't have to be random.

I'm only sad you don't get to see us going back and analyzing Simon's interactions with all the other players looking for his partner, but that was just going to be irrelevant the way this all played out.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #553 on: August 24, 2018, 03:12:10 pm »

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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #554 on: August 24, 2018, 03:12:15 pm »

My best shot was no killing last night and getting tracked by phyphor. Then I could at least have opened the day in Faust’s position “pseudo ic” and get myself a few days to take care of the pr’s.

Are you the doc umbrage?
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #555 on: August 24, 2018, 03:13:37 pm »


Are you the doc umbrage?
Yes, what gave me away?
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #556 on: August 24, 2018, 03:16:43 pm »

what a game!

Honestly really good game everyone. What a rough spot it was to jump into. I felt a little bad when I offered to sub in because often having an outside perspective can give you better reads and I had a pretty strong scum read on simon jester as I was following along. When I joined the game o was created by the fact that I was completely correct in my scum read and that he was my partner!

ugh, that just sounds incredibly frustrating. having a correct read and then not being able to use it.

you really couldn't have done anything here. I did not even scumread you yesterday, if we hadn't lynched your partner it could have gone totally differently.

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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #557 on: August 24, 2018, 03:17:35 pm »


Are you the doc umbrage?
Yes, what gave me away?

Your general play style yesterday indicated pr. You were less reads focused and more management focused which indicated you could do more than just vote and you beloved phyphor immediately. Then today your not jk or cop claim sealed the deal. I was going to shoot you last night but though faust and silver would still hound me down. I had to be “cleared” by phyphor to win.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #558 on: August 24, 2018, 03:18:47 pm »

Vote Count 2.final

mcmcsalot (5): Uncleeurope, faust, silverspawn, hypercube, UmbrageOfSnow
Not Voting (3): phyphor, WestCoastDidds, mcmcsalot

With 8 alive it took 5 to Lynch.

mcmcsalot was lynched! He was a Mafia Goon. His favorite animal was a Penguin.

Town Wins!


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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #559 on: August 24, 2018, 03:19:42 pm »

who did you target UoS?

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« Reply #560 on: August 24, 2018, 03:20:21 pm »

what a game!

Honestly really good game everyone. What a rough spot it was to jump into. I felt a little bad when I offered to sub in because often having an outside perspective can give you better reads and I had a pretty strong scum read on simon jester as I was following along. When I joined the game o was created by the fact that I was completely correct in my scum read and that he was my partner!

ugh, that just sounds incredibly frustrating. having a correct read and then not being able to use it.

you really couldn't have done anything here. I did not even scumread you yesterday, if we hadn't lynched your partner it could have gone totally differently.

Yea I debated just running with the read anyway and bussing simon from the start but A) I didn’t want to end simons game so quick and B) with this few people a day one scum lynch is just brutal. I was so ready to get phyphor mislynched and then he had to claim the darn tracker. It was a huge blow, on top of the fact that Simon reacted in a way that nullified him from claiming doctor.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #561 on: August 24, 2018, 03:22:27 pm »

who did you target UoS?

Phyphor. That was really the only play when Simon flipped scum I think. Tracker becomes cop essentially. I'm happy with my QT being released if LaLight does that, although a lot of it is drafts of that big advice post, and me second guessing myself and briefly being really mad at faust about the "cheating" thing.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #562 on: August 24, 2018, 03:23:30 pm »

Dang rough to lose a game where you correctly identify one of two scum, a doctor, and two vanilla townies (Faust and westcoastdidds). But I had a blast.

I think mvp should go to westcoastdids, she played so fantastically townie I was already factoring in when I was going to have to kill her to prevent being in a situation where the only unknowns left we’re going to be me and her.

But shoutout to faust as well who caught simon the quickest and then correctly picked up on my partner tells.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #563 on: August 24, 2018, 03:23:55 pm »

I'm kind of glad all the true newbies were town, I think that gives a better feel for what the game is most often like.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #564 on: August 24, 2018, 03:24:55 pm »

https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/sJHzQMJgih8JH

Here is the mafia qt, it’s got all my advice to simon, as well as l my thought on the game state, pretty interesting read I think.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #565 on: August 24, 2018, 03:25:06 pm »

Yeah that early WCD flashwagon did a lot to help me townread her too.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #566 on: August 24, 2018, 03:25:41 pm »

Honestly really good game everyone. What a rough spot it was to jump into. I felt a little bad when I offered to sub in because often having an outside perspective can give you better reads and I had a pretty strong scum read on simon jester as I was following along. When I joined the game o was created by the fact that I was completely correct in my scum read and that he was my partner!

Totally tough spot! And you seem like a good dude so I’m glad to meet you!
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« Reply #567 on: August 24, 2018, 03:27:22 pm »

Good game everyone! I'll be back for another I'm sure.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #568 on: August 24, 2018, 03:28:25 pm »

Yeah, I really don't envy you that spot, nice effort in a bad situation.

Also, I'm even happier that I got page top.

Also also, What did you newbies think? This isn't really how games go that often, usually they take longer, but I do think you got a feel for how things work hopefully? Day 1 doesn't have to be random.

I'm only sad you don't get to see us going back and analyzing Simon's interactions with all the other players looking for his partner, but that was just going to be irrelevant the way this all played out.

It was fun! Weird, but fun. I would like to play another newbie game.

It was interesting to look back at simons interactions because he was so pro-Alina and anti-me and we had very similar levels and kinds of interactions. I didn’t know what she seemed “confident” and I was scummy.
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« Reply #569 on: August 24, 2018, 03:28:51 pm »

I'm kind of glad all the true newbies were town, I think that gives a better feel for what the game is most often like.

I actually thing although the game was a good learning experience for the newbies, it felt like the newbie/vet dynamic was a little too mentor/mentee.

I was tossing around the idea that if newbies (less than say 3 or 5 games) wanted to play in a normal game that they could request a vet partner. The vet would only have access to their private qt and could help with some of the “am I stupid for thinking this” questions.

That way everyone is on even in game fields.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #570 on: August 24, 2018, 03:49:31 pm »

https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/sJHzQMJgih8JH

Here is the mafia qt, it’s got all my advice to simon, as well as l my thought on the game state, pretty interesting read I think.

Oh, that was super interesting. Thanks for continuing to record your thoughts. Much insight to be gleaned...
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #571 on: August 24, 2018, 03:50:15 pm »


Are you the doc umbrage?
Yes, what gave me away?

I guessed this too when you said "I am neither Cop nor Jailkeeper"

Seems like a carefully stated claim, haha.



And I echo Mc's concern regarding the mentor/mentee thingy, seemed like the newbies were a little more timid than they would have been in different circumstances.

GG guys! Also, I was not evil, Snow, ya weirdo.
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« Reply #572 on: August 24, 2018, 03:55:20 pm »

Here is speccy that contains your favorite animals (fun fact: Faust and phyphor have the same one!) and feel free to share your QTs everyone. Also if someone (Faust/gkrieg/silver/etc) would open another newbie game, I think we will have it filled :) I also would like to participate in one.
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« Reply #573 on: August 24, 2018, 03:56:29 pm »

I'm kind of glad all the true newbies were town, I think that gives a better feel for what the game is most often like.

I actually thing although the game was a good learning experience for the newbies, it felt like the newbie/vet dynamic was a little too mentor/mentee.

I was tossing around the idea that if newbies (less than say 3 or 5 games) wanted to play in a normal game that they could request a vet partner. The vet would only have access to their private qt and could help with some of the “am I stupid for thinking this” questions.

That way everyone is on even in game fields.

This is an excellent idea. I know I have more questions than most, but I’m probably also the least experienced in the format/game having never played IRL or anywhere else. The vets in this game were really helpful, but I can see that the teaching also disrupted the flow of the game. I think if there are more people joining who are truly green, that is a way to help acclimate them. I have been following the two other games belong played right now and there is so much more history (meta?) being relied upon that leaves me scratching my head.

It is already my sense that one of the reasons that this is fun is because you get to know these folks over time and have actual relationships with them, which is the only reason I get hooked on any kind of game. So, community, yeah that matters. Everyone has been generous with their time, here and in the game lingo board, and I appreciate it.


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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #574 on: August 24, 2018, 03:57:17 pm »


Are you the doc umbrage?
Yes, what gave me away?

I guessed this too when you said "I am neither Cop nor Jailkeeper"

Seems like a carefully stated claim, haha.


Same!
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