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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #100 on: August 17, 2018, 10:09:02 am »

ooooh, Omgus! Fight, Fight, Fight!!

translucent vote: Simon for formenting conflict.

Asch, conflict is good, irregardless if it's fabricated, silly or whatever. What is fishy is to try to dial down a potential subject of conversation. Town wants to have many interactions D1 a so we can go back later days and study them when we have more revealed information.

PPE

So c'mone, be a pro-town player and go hunt down scum!silver, attaboy!

Scum probably wants to encourage things like OMGUS though, especially if it's between two town, since it leads to emotional reactions and lets them hide.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #101 on: August 17, 2018, 10:14:53 am »

Vote: alinatolm

Either he is killing a talker, or he is killing someone he thinks is intelligent enough to be a threat, you decide. Ima just vote for the guy to see what happens.

I agree that trying to leave the more experienced players alive for the early going is probably a good idea.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #102 on: August 17, 2018, 10:17:04 am »

But in the spirit of Lynch All Lurkers
Vote:muenstercheese for being all excited and now suspiciously absent

This is a very fast turn around from "voting for lurkers is no bueno."
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #103 on: August 17, 2018, 10:20:34 am »

But in the spirit of Lynch All Lurkers
Vote:muenstercheese for being all excited and now suspiciously absent

This is a very fast turn around from "voting for lurkers is no bueno."
Good point.

Vote: WCD
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #104 on: August 17, 2018, 10:27:02 am »

vote: father-brother-continent

This is possibly too apathetic to be scum, or at least if they're scum we can count on them to be apathetic scum.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #105 on: August 17, 2018, 10:29:12 am »

But in the spirit of Lynch All Lurkers
Vote:muenstercheese for being all excited and now suspiciously absent

This is a very fast turn around from "voting for lurkers is no bueno."

I’m learning, so taking advice when it’s offered. You said lurkers are suspicious, and I was one of the only two people who hadn’t voted, so I voted for the other. Your reason that lurkers are suspicious was more substantive than any other vote thus far.

I’m quite literally figuring this out as we go along...
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #106 on: August 17, 2018, 10:31:02 am »

And the only single thing we have heard from muenstercheese at all is the weird father-brother-continent vote. Weird, right?
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #107 on: August 17, 2018, 10:32:27 am »

Very slow start here. How about this: everyone vote for someone in their next post

vote: muenstercheese
Can you explain how your voting will help us get the game started?

Agreed that "let's move things along by voting. [policy vote]" isn't actually helpful.

vote: silverspawn
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #108 on: August 17, 2018, 10:47:10 am »

Vote: alinatolm

Either he is killing a talker, or he is killing someone he thinks is intelligent enough to be a threat, you decide. Ima just vote for the guy to see what happens.

I agree that trying to leave the more experienced players alive for the early going is probably a good idea.

To be honest, I'm not sure it is a good strategy. If you play for a long time, it means you can hide your true nature professionally.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #109 on: August 17, 2018, 10:57:55 am »

And the only single thing we have heard from muenstercheese at all is the weird father-brother-continent vote. Weird, right?

To be fair I believe it was a vote directed at me.

About the "voting in next post" thing, I am very content with my current vote, am I supposed to change it? Or was that just calling out all the non-voters? Either way I think I will keep everything as is for the time being.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #110 on: August 17, 2018, 11:26:34 am »

Very slow start here. How about this: everyone vote for someone in their next post

vote: muenstercheese
Can you explain how your voting will help us get the game started?

No.

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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #111 on: August 17, 2018, 11:27:36 am »

But in the spirit of Lynch All Lurkers
Vote:muenstercheese for being all excited and now suspiciously absent

This is a very fast turn around from "voting for lurkers is no bueno."
Good point.

Vote: WCD

sure, vote: WCD

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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #112 on: August 17, 2018, 11:43:03 am »

Vote Count 1.3

UmbrageOfSnow (1): alinatolm
alinatolm (1): Uncleeurope
muenstercheese (2): WestCoastDidds, Simon Jester
WestCoastDidds (2): faust, silverspawn
silverspawn (1): hypercube
Not Voting (2): UmbrageOfSnow, muenstercheese

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 ends Wednesday, August 22 at 5am forum time.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #113 on: August 17, 2018, 12:13:25 pm »

Scum probably wants to encourage things like OMGUS though, especially if it's between two town, since it leads to emotional reactions and lets them hide.
I feel like emotions make it easier to sort people rather than easier for scum to hide. Scum can manipulate town using emotions for sure, but I think it helps with reads.

This is possibly too apathetic to be scum, or at least if they're scum we can count on them to be apathetic scum.
No such thing as too apathetic to be scum, and apathetic scum can be very hard to catch. They can sit back as town tears itself apart and no one really wonders why they are still alive or has any way to sort them from town. Letting apathetic scum off the hook lets apathetic scum win games.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #114 on: August 17, 2018, 12:16:30 pm »

You said lurkers are suspicious, and I was one of the only two people who hadn’t voted, so I voted for the other. Your reason that lurkers are suspicious was more substantive than any other vote thus far.

So you were worried you looked suspicious?
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #115 on: August 17, 2018, 12:21:07 pm »

What is OMGUS?

I’m not worried that I’d look suscious, rather I was trying to find some reason to vote one way of another since it seems so rando.

But two of the veterans targeting the new kid....that seems all kinds of scummy.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #116 on: August 17, 2018, 12:27:41 pm »

What is OMGUS?
It stands for "Oh My God You Suck," when someone votes the person voting for them, it's a good way for scum to discredit votes on themselves and so can be sort of a tell that way, but it's also just common with new players in general. Town tends to get emotional and mistakenly scumread people voting for them because "if you're voting for me then you can't see how obviously town I am, you must be scum!" which is often untrue.

Basically it's something that can be a good reason to find someone scummy that gets abused and is often meaningless.

By the way, confirmation bias is sometimes called confbias.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #117 on: August 17, 2018, 12:28:59 pm »

I’m not worried that I’d look suscious, rather I was trying to find some reason to vote one way of another since it seems so rando.

But two of the veterans targeting the new kid....that seems all kinds of scummy.
Why is that scummy?

Is 3 a less scummy number than 2?

Vote: WestCoastDidds
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #118 on: August 17, 2018, 12:38:04 pm »


Why is that scummy?

Is 3 a less scummy number than 2?

Vote: WestCoastDidds

I thought the point was ask questions and learn, but that just leads to votes. So, if I want to keep playing, better to just watch? The only thing I’ve learned so far, other than the acronyms (thank you) is engagement is bad.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #119 on: August 17, 2018, 12:39:20 pm »

Sorry....I didn’t mean to make my text part of your quote.

I thought the point was ask questions and learn, but that just leads to votes. So, if I want to keep playing, better to just watch? The only thing I’ve learned so far, other than the acronyms (thank you) is engagement is bad.
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« Reply #120 on: August 17, 2018, 12:42:35 pm »

I thought the point was ask questions and learn, but that just leads to votes. So, if I want to keep playing, better to just watch? The only thing I’ve learned so far, other than the acronyms (thank you) is engagement is bad.

So this is an interesting post. I suspect that you probably suspect that we think engagement is actually good. Therefore, you put pressure on us to stop voting for you in order to prove that it's actually good.

Would you agree or deny that this was your intention?

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« Reply #121 on: August 17, 2018, 12:44:49 pm »

I thought the point was ask questions and learn, but that just leads to votes. So, if I want to keep playing, better to just watch? The only thing I’ve learned so far, other than the acronyms (thank you) is engagement is bad.

That's really the wrong lesson to take away from this. I'm not voting you because you asked questions, I'm voting for you because of your reaction to pressure. It would still take 2 more votes to lynch you and there is plenty of time left in the day for people to change their minds. Don't just throw up your hands and give up hope, I know it can be frustrating.

For the record, the other person I most want to be voting for right now is muenstercheese, so that's how lurking works out.

Take a deep breath, think about it, and answer some questions:
1. Is it scummy that Faust voted for you? Why or why not?
2. Why is it scummy that Silverspawn voted for you?
3. Is it scummy that I voted for you? Why or why not?
4. Other than the three of us, you, and muenster, who do you think is most likely to be TOWN in this game?
5. Why?

None of these have objective answers, but they are all questions worth thinking about and answering, both for yourself and to help people read you.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #122 on: August 17, 2018, 12:49:15 pm »

Sorry....I didn’t mean to make my text part of your quote.

I thought the point was ask questions and learn, but that just leads to votes. So, if I want to keep playing, better to just watch? The only thing I’ve learned so far, other than the acronyms (thank you) is engagement is bad.

I don’t think your engagement is the problem, I would think it’s just how squirrelly your engagement has been his far. You look a touch guilty.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #123 on: August 17, 2018, 12:55:29 pm »

I’m not worried that I’d look suscious, rather I was trying to find some reason to vote one way of another since it seems so rando.

But two of the veterans targeting the new kid....that seems all kinds of scummy.
Why is that scummy?

Is 3 a less scummy number than 2?

Vote: WestCoastDidds
Meh.

Vote: UoS
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« Reply #124 on: August 17, 2018, 01:06:25 pm »

Am I coming across like I have multiple personality disorder here?
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