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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Night 0, pms are out!)
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2018, 04:39:48 pm »

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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2018, 04:55:41 am »

Day 1 starts now!

Vote Count 1.0

Not Voting (9): faust, Simon Jester, silverspawn, alinatolm, hypercube, Uncleeurope, UmbrageOfSnow, muenstercheese, WestCoastDidds

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 starts now and ends Wednesday, August 22 at 5am forum time.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2018, 04:19:25 pm by LaLight »
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2018, 05:05:24 am »

Good morning y'all!

Many new people naturally, exciting!

Let's start out with a vote: Umbrage and see where that leads us.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2018, 06:06:20 am »

vote: poorly written Harry Potter Villain

nice playing with you again!

I'm town. What about you?
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2018, 08:09:42 am »

Hi everyone!

I'm town. What about you?

I'm also town.

vote: silver for starting a wagon in a somewhat opaque manner.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2018, 08:20:57 am »

Hi everyone!

I'm town. What about you?

I'm also town.

vote: silver for starting a wagon in a somewhat opaque manner.

Wha.. Wagons, where? How?

And wagons are good, bad reason for voting silver, really. One scumpoint to you.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2018, 08:33:00 am »

Vote Count 1.1

UmbrageOfSnow (1): Simon Jester
silverspawn (1): hypercube
Not Voting (7): faust, silverspawn, alinatolm, Uncleeurope, UmbrageOfSnow, muenstercheese, WestCoastDidds

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 ends Wednesday, August 22 at 5am forum time.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2018, 09:04:41 am »

Hi everyone!

I'm town. What about you?

I'm also town.

vote: silver for starting a wagon in a somewhat opaque manner.

I'd have been fairly surprised if that vote counted. As you can see, it didn't.

but this one may. opaque vote: hypercube
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2018, 09:07:31 am »

Hi everyone!

I'm town. What about you?

I'm also town.

vote: silver for starting a wagon in a somewhat opaque manner.

I'd have been fairly surprised if that vote counted. As you can see, it didn't.

but this one may. opaque vote: hypercube

ooooh, Omgus! Fight, Fight, Fight!!
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2018, 09:29:44 am »

ooooh, Omgus! Fight, Fight, Fight!!

translucent vote: Simon for formenting conflict.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2018, 10:36:39 am »

Since we have at least one total total newb, I want to make a "brief" post on strategy.

  • Right now we have nothing to go on so we start by just voting for semi-arbitrary reasons. People will see things that give them a small read, argue about them, find each other scummy for their garbage reads, generate better reads off the whole mess, and so the cycle begins. Don't just throw up your hands and say "but there's nothing to get reads off of," it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
     
  • "L-1" means someone is 1 vote away from being lynched. We don't want anyone accidentally or "accidentally" hammering (casting the last vote) so announce when you put someone at L-1.

  • Also declare intent to hammer before doing so. This gives a chance for the lynchee to claim and everyone a last chance to reconsider in light of that claim. If you hammer someone without warning and they flip town, I will do everything in my power to lynch you the next day.

  • The goal isn't to survive until the end of the game, the goal is to identify and lynch the Mafia. If you are worried youíre on track to get mislynched, try to take a deep breath and figure out who is most likely to be scum. Make a case on why they are scum instead of flailing around just trying not to die, itís more helpful to town, and more likely to actually save you if itís a good case.

  • Don't claim false power roles or false results, this only benefits the scumteam. If you claim a power role, the correct play is for another town player with that power role to claim. If scum fake claims, this gets scum lynched at a 1-for-1 tradeoff with that town power role. If you do it as town, you and the town power role both die at no benefit to anyone other than the Mafia.

  • If you have a power role, be very cautious about claiming it. If you're about to be lynched (and I mean intent to hammer, not a couple votes and feeling generally depressed and fatalistic), if you have a guilty result on someone as cop or tracker, if scum just claimed your role or your role makes their claim impossible, if someone you have an innocent result on is about to be lynched, or when it's the last day and it's Lynch or Lose (LyLo), then claim. Not before.

  • No Lynching is very bad for Town most of the time. We should compromise and get someone lynched. Scum have complete control over the night kill, but have to vote like everyone else on the lynch, which gives us more information, which is better. If we get to 3v1 or 4v2 that's when we No Lynch.

  • There is no reason to wait until the last 5 minutes of every day to settle on a compromise lynch. No one ever gets their top scumread lynched every day and we can get better compromises that are more likely to hit scum if we try to settle things a bit early instead of waiting until the last minute and having who is online (or strategically lurking) decide which compromises are even possible.

And with that, Iíll shut up about theory.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2018, 10:37:13 am »

Vote:Faust for not doing that yet.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2018, 10:45:47 am »

vote: poorly written Harry Potter Villain

nice playing with you again!

I'm town. What about you?

Nice playing with you again too! Like I've realized I've been missing forum mafia and I'm actually a bit emotional about coming back. Not just excitement or shame at having left before but like nostalgia and that sort of happy sadness. I'm seriously glad to be back.

None of that is alignment-indicative though. And neither is this: I'm town.

P.S. The poorly written Harry Potter villain was
a) all of them
b) spelled Umbridge
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2018, 10:49:17 am »

ooooh, Omgus! Fight, Fight, Fight!!

translucent vote: Simon for formenting conflict.

Asch, conflict is good, irregardless if it's fabricated, silly or whatever. What is fishy is to try to dial down a potential subject of conversation. Town wants to have many interactions D1 a so we can go back later days and study them when we have more revealed information.

PPE

So c'mone, be a pro-town player and go hunt down scum!silver, attaboy!
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2018, 10:55:02 am »

@Hypercube: what's your previous Mafia experience?
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2018, 11:03:37 am »

a) all of them
b) spelled Umbridge

I know. I once called you Umbridge and you said you didn't want to be confused with a poorly written harry potter villain. It was a failed attempt at an insider. Iactuallythinkumbridgeiswellwrittenbutnjeh

Your case on faust is solid. I think you probably caught him. vote: faust
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2018, 11:10:19 am »

Wooo, wagon!

I remember that now, but I have trouble remembering who said what sometimes. I thought it was EFHW for some reason.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2018, 11:18:22 am »

@Hypercube: what's your previous Mafia experience?

I've played IRL some, never by text before. I've been lurking this forum for a while; I've probably read ~20 games here.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2018, 02:03:25 pm »

Even though no one asked me, I have a bit of IRL experience and a bit of forum experience, although my forum experience was a lot more... casual? I guess? With very different structure and terms. So I may get lost, but I will try my best to keep myself aware and open to listening to advice from you people.

That being said, any advice that disagrees with me will allow me to assume its coming from the depths of scumminess, and will have to be dealt with.

(Note: This is a post which is meant to show I am reading all of this without actually accomplishing anything.)
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2018, 03:00:08 pm »

Hi! So much terms in here! I've played Mafia at school before, but never on the internet. So scared to do something wrong. I hope I'll figure out things here quickly. What does it mean 'declare intent to hammer'? How exactly should I warn someone before the action?
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2018, 03:06:20 pm »

Hi! So much terms in here! I've played Mafia at school before, but never on the internet. So scared to do something wrong. I hope I'll figure out things here quickly. What does it mean 'declare intent to hammer'? How exactly should I warn someone before the action?

Don't let the terms intimidate you, but they do get thrown around a lot (and do help people talk about stuff without re-explaining everything) so worth getting used to, but if you don't know what something means just ask.

Don't worry too much about doing something wrong, just put your thoughts out there. If you are scum or town with a power role, this probably doesn't help much, but try to play as if you are town with no powers.

Just saying it is all anyone ever means. Often we put it in bold.

Like this
Intent to hammer: Uncleeurope

Bold doesn't automatically make it a vote or something, you have to actually say Vote:
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2018, 03:24:06 pm »

OK thank you! In real life I'm used to the fact that Mafia is often too active. So
vote: UmbrageOfSnow
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2018, 04:17:44 pm »

@Lalight, your date in the vote count is likely wrong, unless the first game-day is ending today!?

Interesting vote from alinatolm, altough activeness can't be a general scumtell in forum mafia, it's much more a question of each players meta in that case. It's easy to lurk as mafia and it tends to be a playstyle that pays off unfortunately so I would rather look among the silent players in the first place. Of course irrelevant this early in the game, but we'll see.

Umbrages ambition to be the tutor for the newbies is most likely a null-tell, but it would be so fun it was a deliberate way to gain easy town-cred that I'm happy to have my vote staying where it is. Slightly less RVS now, with other words.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2018, 04:20:04 pm »

@Lalight, your date in the vote count is likely wrong, unless the first game-day is ending today!?


Sorry for that, I fixed it.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 12: Your Favorite Animal Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2018, 04:29:08 pm »

Thank you for the explanation. Can I clarify some words? What do 'null-tell' and 'RVS' mean?
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