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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #950 on: August 27, 2018, 01:42:13 pm »

That was the derpiest final day I have seen in a long time.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #951 on: August 27, 2018, 01:42:22 pm »

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silverspawn is MVP for being active and carrying the game all the way being extremely scummy all the way.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #952 on: August 27, 2018, 01:43:06 pm »

Feel free to share your QTs, some of you have especially cool ones :)
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #953 on: August 27, 2018, 01:43:10 pm »

I fail to see how it was extremely alignment-indicative though. I'd made it clear I didn't want Raptor getting lynched today, and he was confirmed scum by that point.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #954 on: August 27, 2018, 01:43:46 pm »

Why was the scum team's plan to bus raptor instead of quickhammering gkrieg???
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #955 on: August 27, 2018, 01:44:22 pm »

Why was the scum team's plan to bus raptor instead of quickhammering gkrieg???

Because I check in literally every 5 minutes.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #956 on: August 27, 2018, 01:45:03 pm »

Why was the scum team's plan to bus raptor instead of quickhammering gkrieg???

Yeah, 3-person quickhammer is hard to pull, when some people are not that active
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #957 on: August 27, 2018, 01:45:10 pm »

LaLight, it's too late now, but shouldn't the night have at least played out?

The lynch happened prior to the rule infraction. This means that at the time of the infraction, there should've been:

6 alive, 2 of whom were scum.

After the mod kill, that's:

5 alive, 2 of whom are scum.

Scum doesn't know if the Vig is 1 shot or not, so they may have chosen to block him and kill the RB - but the RB could've blocked the NK, yes?
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #958 on: August 27, 2018, 01:46:30 pm »

LaLight, it's too late now, but shouldn't the night have at least played out?

The lynch happened prior to the rule infraction. This means that at the time of the infraction, there should've been:

6 alive, 2 of whom were scum.

After the mod kill, that's:

5 alive, 2 of whom are scum.

Scum doesn't know if the Vig is 1 shot or not, so they may have chosen to block him and kill the RB - but the RB could've blocked the NK, yes?

No, Robz is Strongman.
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« Reply #959 on: August 27, 2018, 01:46:42 pm »

Also, @Skumpy, I mean this in the nicest possible way, but you really need to rein yourself in. Your erratic play literally cost town the game.

But really every day we didn't lynch silver, we all failed. There was more evidence for him than you usually get. I mean Space's final day analysis was spot on.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #960 on: August 27, 2018, 01:47:40 pm »

LaLight, it's too late now, but shouldn't the night have at least played out?

The lynch happened prior to the rule infraction. This means that at the time of the infraction, there should've been:

6 alive, 2 of whom were scum.

After the mod kill, that's:

5 alive, 2 of whom are scum.

Scum doesn't know if the Vig is 1 shot or not, so they may have chosen to block him and kill the RB - but the RB could've blocked the NK, yes?

No, Robz is Strongman.

Ah, nevermind then.

However I don't believe scum can claim perfect victory here lol
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #961 on: August 27, 2018, 01:48:22 pm »

Also, @Skumpy, I mean this in the nicest possible way, but you really need to rein yourself in. Your erratic play literally cost town the game.

But really every day we didn't lynch silver, we all failed. There was more evidence for him than you usually get. I mean Space's final day analysis was spot on.

Silver should have been lynched very, very early on.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #962 on: August 27, 2018, 01:49:11 pm »

I was very convinced that silver was scum.  I was incorrectly convinced that Skumpy was also scum.

I quickhammered after seeing that EFHW was going to vote my way because I knew that Raptor had a much higher chance of being scum than I had.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #963 on: August 27, 2018, 01:50:02 pm »

Also should have seen Robz as scum when he put someone to L-1 without the IC being on the wagon.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #964 on: August 27, 2018, 01:50:13 pm »

Also, @Skumpy, I mean this in the nicest possible way, but you really need to rein yourself in. Your erratic play literally cost town the game.

But really every day we didn't lynch silver, we all failed. There was more evidence for him than you usually get. I mean Space's final day analysis was spot on.

There was never a world in which gkrieg wasn't going to vote me at some point. Therefore, I had to assume he was scum and go from there. Assuming I didn't, Raptor was still confirmed scum today. There was wagon evidence for both Robz and ss since then the Galz wagon would've been totally town before the end ss flip.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #965 on: August 27, 2018, 01:50:42 pm »

LaLight, it's too late now, but shouldn't the night have at least played out?

The lynch happened prior to the rule infraction. This means that at the time of the infraction, there should've been:

6 alive, 2 of whom were scum.

After the mod kill, that's:

5 alive, 2 of whom are scum.

Scum doesn't know if the Vig is 1 shot or not, so they may have chosen to block him and kill the RB - but the RB could've blocked the NK, yes?

No, Robz is Strongman.

Ah, nevermind then.

However I don't believe scum can claim perfect victory here lol

I agree.  Technically Raptor was lynched before Skumpy was modkilled.
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« Reply #966 on: August 27, 2018, 01:52:05 pm »

Also, @Skumpy, I mean this in the nicest possible way, but you really need to rein yourself in. Your erratic play literally cost town the game.

But really every day we didn't lynch silver, we all failed. There was more evidence for him than you usually get. I mean Space's final day analysis was spot on.

There was never a world in which gkrieg wasn't going to vote me at some point. Therefore, I had to assume he was scum and go from there. Assuming I didn't, Raptor was still confirmed scum today. There was wagon evidence for both Robz and ss since then the Galz wagon would've been totally town before the end ss flip.

I actually think I was starting to come around on you.  Once Raptor had flipped scum, I probably would've wanted to lynch silver next from Space's wagon case, which was strong, and I sadly didn't read fully until now (sorry Space! Just didn't have the time to reread until today).
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #967 on: August 27, 2018, 01:53:39 pm »

Also, for the record, I can confirm that Raptor absolutely did NOT check in to the forums while VLA.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #968 on: August 27, 2018, 01:57:02 pm »

Also, @Skumpy, I mean this in the nicest possible way, but you really need to rein yourself in. Your erratic play literally cost town the game.

But really every day we didn't lynch silver, we all failed. There was more evidence for him than you usually get. I mean Space's final day analysis was spot on.

There was never a world in which gkrieg wasn't going to vote me at some point. Therefore, I had to assume he was scum and go from there. Assuming I didn't, Raptor was still confirmed scum today. There was wagon evidence for both Robz and ss since then the Galz wagon would've been totally town before the end ss flip.

I actually think I was starting to come around on you.  Once Raptor had flipped scum, I probably would've wanted to lynch silver next from Space's wagon case, which was strong, and I sadly didn't read fully until now (sorry Space! Just didn't have the time to reread until today).

It'd be nice to believe it, but we all know it's difficult to change opinions when you get to the endgame. And it turns out both IC's were wrong too anyways.

Yeah, that was pretty much a complete garbage game by me.
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« Reply #969 on: August 27, 2018, 01:57:55 pm »

Also should have seen Robz as scum when he put someone to L-1 without the IC being on the wagon.

The Robz vote on me end of D1 was also pretty damning. Town!Robz is not afraid of scum!Galz, and definitely sees more value in a potential town!Galz being in the game. This is especially true when there is next to no case on me. Scum!Robz on the other hand, would definitely prefer town!Galz out early. The quick switch and then disappearing act to get the wagon going was pretty convincingly a scum move - but really only if you're familiar enough with our histories and meta's.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #970 on: August 27, 2018, 01:59:31 pm »

Also, @Skumpy, I mean this in the nicest possible way, but you really need to rein yourself in. Your erratic play literally cost town the game.

But really every day we didn't lynch silver, we all failed. There was more evidence for him than you usually get. I mean Space's final day analysis was spot on.

There was never a world in which gkrieg wasn't going to vote me at some point. Therefore, I had to assume he was scum and go from there. Assuming I didn't, Raptor was still confirmed scum today. There was wagon evidence for both Robz and ss since then the Galz wagon would've been totally town before the end ss flip.

IMO this is bad strategic thinking. Your job as VT is to convince other towns you are town and draw the Nigjt Kill.

Therefore you should be trying to convince gkrieg not to vote you, not being fatalstic and assuming he will never change his vote.
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« Reply #971 on: August 27, 2018, 02:00:19 pm »

IMO this is bad strategic thinking. Your job as VT is to convince other towns you are town and draw the Nigjt Kill.

Sure. Except there weren't any more VT kills that were going to happen.
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« Reply #972 on: August 27, 2018, 02:01:24 pm »

Hey guests are viewing this thread.  Means this forum being public at least has a couple people curious.
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« Reply #973 on: August 27, 2018, 02:02:29 pm »

silverspawn is MVP for being active and carrying the game all the way being extremely scummy all the way.

Hey, thanks!

@skumpy: I'm not sure if LaLight pointed this out, but I assume the vote from EFHW didn't count because it didn't have a colon. I take it that you thought that you were preventing a big mod error (and I did too, didn't notice the colon until I double checked)
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)
« Reply #974 on: August 27, 2018, 02:05:13 pm »

LaLight, it's too late now, but shouldn't the night have at least played out?

The lynch happened prior to the rule infraction. This means that at the time of the infraction, there should've been:

6 alive, 2 of whom were scum.

After the mod kill, that's:

5 alive, 2 of whom are scum.

Scum doesn't know if the Vig is 1 shot or not, so they may have chosen to block him and kill the RB - but the RB could've blocked the NK, yes?

No, Robz is Strongman.

Ah, nevermind then.

However I don't believe scum can claim perfect victory here lol

I agree.  Technically Raptor was lynched before Skumpy was modkilled.

I also agree, but the modkill happened before the flip was posted, so you can legitimately argue that raptor wasn't dead yet
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