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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #150 on: August 10, 2018, 04:21:45 am »

What do you feel?

Vote Count 1.4


Skumpy (1): gkrieg13
Simon Jester (1): Xxraptorslayer96
silverspawn (1): SpaceAnemone
Galzria (1): Skumpy
Xxraptorslayer96 (4): iguanaiguana, Simon Jester, Robz888, silverspawn
Not Voting (4): Galzria, DatSwan, EFHW, Twistedarcher

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends Monday, August 13th at 7 pm FT.

Note: this
bote: galzria to have my vote somewhere

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #151 on: August 10, 2018, 04:22:30 am »

This doesn't seem like one to me either, but I wouldn't disount it completely.

When people make posts here, it's very natural to be suspicious. Are they being honest, or are they lying scum trying to deceive?

So I will step outside of the game for a second to assure and reassure you that there was no slip, there was no pregame discussion, there was 100% honesty in me having absolutely no life and nothing better to do in my many hours of procrastination than to click the 'Who's Online' tab, and wonder who is this Simon guy who also seems to spend a lot of time here, and in old Mafia games at that. So stop speculating about my haughty diction, and knock it off! Go talk about something else that you find weird and potentially scummy, maybe even the extreme self-awareness of this very post. I don't know!

OK, aggressive rant's over. Happy Friday all!
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #152 on: August 10, 2018, 04:57:21 am »

I think the more pertinent question is if scum!Space or town!Space is more likely to try and call out that particular non-slip?
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #153 on: August 10, 2018, 06:26:49 am »

I super duper strongly disagree that only scum cares about scumslips. I think town cares more about scumslips, generally.

This doesn't seem like one to me either, but I wouldn't disount it completely.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #154 on: August 10, 2018, 07:31:06 am »

I super duper strongly disagree that only scum cares about scumslips. I think town cares more about scumslips, generally.

This doesn't seem like one to me either, but I wouldn't disount it completely.

Hm. From what I have seen "scumslips" are almost always coming from town and to do such a slip is more of a towntell than anything else.. Scum likes to push scumslips though, as an easy way to fabricate cases that really isn't there.

In this case, I mean... So Skumpy and I would have this conversation in our QT and then for some reason decide to replicate it in thread including my surprised reaction? I mean for Skumpy and me the accusation is quite hilarious, but for everyone else it should just be plain ridiculous. Of course it's not a scumslip and I think Space very well knows this.

In fact, first let's cast my first actually scumsuspecting vote in vote: SpaceA
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #155 on: August 10, 2018, 09:04:11 am »

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #156 on: August 10, 2018, 10:41:19 am »

@Simon

So is your case sorta that Space scumslipped because only scum posts about a scum slip?
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #157 on: August 10, 2018, 10:44:51 am »

Gkrieg also giving off townie vibes right now.

I can't see any possible basis for this read other than he and you agreeing on a couple small points
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #158 on: August 10, 2018, 10:48:20 am »

I dont really know you. Can you share your approach to the game / scum hunting?

When playing, I try to look for abnormalities in play style compared to other games. As well as look for people slipping up. Both of which are hard to read/catch D1.

I would like to extend this question to everyone, to help get the ball rolling .

I've been trying to ask more questions about motivation so that I can get a better read on things I don't understand wihout handing my reads to the scum team for them to do as they please
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #159 on: August 10, 2018, 10:55:58 am »

@Simon

So is your case sorta that Space scumslipped because only scum posts about a scum slip?

Yes.

But more like that they made an effort being active and then made a move that I can't help but read as truly scummy. To me it's unlikely town!SA would ever think of Skumpy and mine interaction as a real scum vs scum-thing. One of us can certainly be scum still, but us sharing a QT and then doing that? No, that's silly. 
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #160 on: August 10, 2018, 11:12:48 am »

That's a stupid vote. My instinct is to vote you in return but I don't think it actually makes you scummy.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #161 on: August 10, 2018, 11:57:04 am »

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #163 on: August 10, 2018, 12:00:24 pm »

Gkrieg also giving off townie vibes right now.

I can't see any possible basis for this read other than he and you agreeing on a couple small points

So you're saying that you don't find Gkrueg townie?
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #164 on: August 10, 2018, 01:38:21 pm »

@Simon

So is your case sorta that Space scumslipped because only scum posts about a scum slip?

Yes.

But more like that they made an effort being active and then made a move that I can't help but read as truly scummy. To me it's unlikely town!SA would ever think of Skumpy and mine interaction as a real scum vs scum-thing. One of us can certainly be scum still, but us sharing a QT and then doing that? No, that's silly.

Have you played much with Space? It seems like you are making at least a partially meta based argument.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #165 on: August 10, 2018, 01:43:32 pm »

Gkrieg also giving off townie vibes right now.

I can't see any possible basis for this read other than he and you agreeing on a couple small points

So you're saying that you don't find Gkrueg townie?

I don't find him townie, no. I just don't see the content that could be the basis for a townread on him. I mean he called me scum or scummy or something for interacting with Skumpy, which I most certainly am not. What other content does he have?
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #166 on: August 10, 2018, 01:45:29 pm »

This doesn't seem like one to me either, but I wouldn't disount it completely.

When people make posts here, it's very natural to be suspicious. Are they being honest, or are they lying scum trying to deceive?

So I will step outside of the game for a second to assure and reassure you that there was no slip, there was no pregame discussion, there was 100% honesty in me having absolutely no life and nothing better to do in my many hours of procrastination than to click the 'Who's Online' tab, and wonder who is this Simon guy who also seems to spend a lot of time here, and in old Mafia games at that. So stop speculating about my haughty diction, and knock it off! Go talk about something else that you find weird and potentially scummy, maybe even the extreme self-awareness of this very post. I don't know!

OK, aggressive rant's over. Happy Friday all!

Holy crap, this post is self conscious.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #167 on: August 10, 2018, 01:51:54 pm »

Ok, let's see where we are

iguana and skumpy are towny. Everyone else is null.

Not too great. We still have some time but not too much.

Maybe I could go for galz. I don't like the total dismissiveness of the scumslip. What if it actually was a scumslip?

Actually, that possibility sort of negates the towniness of skumpy and puts him closer to null. But I'm not voting for him anyway so it doesn't really matter.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #168 on: August 10, 2018, 01:52:47 pm »

ok vote: galz. Who wants to follow??
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #169 on: August 10, 2018, 01:53:56 pm »


What did you mean by this, iguana?

I could vote Robz too because of how he tanked his own meta and that makes him a hard read now.

I guess I am thinking that you had some recent scum games that you played as though you didn't care so as to emulate your 'lackluster town' meta.

If you do that again, then you are both a hard read and not as much of a town asset as you could be. Therefore I consider you a priori of anything a decent lynch.

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #170 on: August 10, 2018, 01:54:12 pm »

ok vote: galz. Who wants to follow??

Not me.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #171 on: August 10, 2018, 01:58:09 pm »

@Simon

So is your case sorta that Space scumslipped because only scum posts about a scum slip?

Yes.

But more like that they made an effort being active and then made a move that I can't help but read as truly scummy. To me it's unlikely town!SA would ever think of Skumpy and mine interaction as a real scum vs scum-thing. One of us can certainly be scum still, but us sharing a QT and then doing that? No, that's silly.

Have you played much with Space? It seems like you are making at least a partially meta based argument.

No, not at all, but have read my few games though. I know they are experienced and good and I would have made the argument against everyone at that level. Don't think SA is especially inclined to use scumslips- argument as scum, that was general. 

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #172 on: August 10, 2018, 02:20:11 pm »

I actually think skumpy is scum here.

Real question - Why? I have like a tinfoil hat D1 theory, but it is currently being outweighed by the silliness of the approach.
Did gkrieg answer this and where is DatSwan?
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #173 on: August 10, 2018, 02:33:38 pm »

Gkrieg also giving off townie vibes right now.

I can't see any possible basis for this read other than he and you agreeing on a couple small points

OMGUS here.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #174 on: August 10, 2018, 02:34:47 pm »

Ok, let's see where we are

iguana and skumpy are towny. Everyone else is null.

Not too great. We still have some time but not too much.

Maybe I could go for galz. I don't like the total dismissiveness of the scumslip. What if it actually was a scumslip?

Actually, that possibility sort of negates the towniness of skumpy and puts him closer to null. But I'm not voting for him anyway so it doesn't really matter.

Lol, why are iguana and skumpy townie?
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