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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #275 on: August 12, 2018, 07:40:53 pm »

As for deadline, it's midnight my time, so I'll be here :-) However, I probably won't get online properly till about an hour beforehand because I'm out tomorrow night straight from work.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #276 on: August 12, 2018, 07:43:20 pm »

@DatSwan - You are wasting your time at this point asking me questions, trying to determine my alignment. My play advice to you is to accept that you don't want to lynch me today and find your ideal target for a lynch, because the deadline is soon. Then, we can talk about that.
The odd thing is that he has already decided you are town - I think he asked for your reads under the assumption that you would die tonight

I didn't even get to the considering if II would die tonight part. I was just asking for explanation of reads.

I have literally never died N1 in any game before so if suddenly this game turns into 'he's alive D2, he must be scum' I would find that pretty ironic.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #277 on: August 12, 2018, 08:00:17 pm »

@DatSwan - You are wasting your time at this point asking me questions, trying to determine my alignment. My play advice to you is to accept that you don't want to lynch me today and find your ideal target for a lynch, because the deadline is soon. Then, we can talk about that.
The odd thing is that he has already decided you are town - I think he asked for your reads under the assumption that you would die tonight

I didn't even get to the considering if II would die tonight part. I was just asking for explanation of reads.

I have literally never died N1 in any game before so if suddenly this game turns into 'he's alive D2, he must be scum' I would find that pretty ironic.

again. to reiterate... not what I was thinking. The time stamp I put on it was simply because I expected (as you had not yet posted reads) you were not going to give them to me. As you responded something along the lines of "lets talk about this later" - I don't think you will find it hard to accept I was just leaving a reference point.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #278 on: August 12, 2018, 08:02:44 pm »

And I realize I need to vote. After reading and analyzing I have 3 canidates.
1 of which is never getting lynched today - so not bothering.

It is actually a close choice on the other two. But for now...

Vote: Simon
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #279 on: August 12, 2018, 08:12:36 pm »

Vote: simon

Heres to hoping I'm not just silver's pawn.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #280 on: August 12, 2018, 08:20:54 pm »

lol Silver's Pawn = Silverspawn
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #281 on: August 12, 2018, 08:41:11 pm »

Simon, why should we not lynch you?
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #282 on: August 12, 2018, 08:41:31 pm »

Vote: simon

Heres to hoping I'm not just silver's pawn.

I think you are. I think you are.

And I don't know right now.. Is the case the scumslip-argument, my tone or some other stuff I missed? I mean I can shut up if that helps, but killing off trying-to-be-helpful newb!town seems like a bad move.

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #283 on: August 12, 2018, 08:49:58 pm »

Simon, why should we not lynch you?

I have been active, enjoying the game, trying to be as obv!town as I can being new and all. I have failed miserably with that apparently,  but still, this is not new!scum playing. I've made strong stances (SA is Scum I guarantee it) flinged my vote nevertheless and yeah - in my mind being new and a tad awkward perhaps but not scummy. I'm the easy lynch among the active players, please avoid it if you can.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #284 on: August 12, 2018, 08:53:57 pm »

Aren't you like... not actually new? Your continuing emphasis on your newness isn't doing you any favors with me.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #285 on: August 12, 2018, 09:00:04 pm »

@Simon the reason I somewhat scum read you right now is that I find the people who have voted you during D1 to be a townier set of players than the people who you have voted during D1. Both groups are six players; there's some overlap but not a ton of it. This is info that I extrapolated from Space's data.

How do you respond to that?
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #286 on: August 12, 2018, 09:01:34 pm »

Aren't you like... not actually new? Your continuing emphasis on your newness isn't doing you any favors with me.

For all practical purposes, yes, I am. The only player I can remember playing with is Ashersky and one of my games was BM, all three years ago. You don't know my style and everything I say or do is easy to see in a scummy way because of it. Happens all the time and otherwise I can't really get why I'm getting heat.

Datswan: care to enlighten me? Your vote was unexpected.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #287 on: August 12, 2018, 09:12:31 pm »

@Simon the reason I somewhat scum read you right now is that I find the people who have voted you during D1 to be a townier set of players than the people who you have voted during D1. Both groups are six players; there's some overlap but not a ton of it. This is info that I extrapolated from Space's data.

How do you respond to that?

You think? It's Silver, SA, Datswan and you right now, right? Except from you they are not townier than anyone else right now and many votes on me earlier have been semi-RVS so I think I have trouble seeing tour point somewhat.

I can see the newbie vs vet argument if it comes up to me or TA, but I could counter with active against lurker so meh.. Do as you wish, no lynch except SA (they are scum, I guarantee it!) are ideal at this point as usual. As long as my death can be productive to town, I'm willing to be lynched I suppose, but I'd rather not 'cause, well, I'm town.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #288 on: August 12, 2018, 10:15:28 pm »

@Simon the reason I somewhat scum read you right now is that I find the people who have voted you during D1 to be a townier set of players than the people who you have voted during D1. Both groups are six players; there's some overlap but not a ton of it. This is info that I extrapolated from Space's data.

How do you respond to that?
If he's scum, shouldn't he be voting for the people you find towny?
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #289 on: August 12, 2018, 10:29:40 pm »

Vote: Simon

Better him than me.

Iguana is reading very town to me.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #290 on: August 13, 2018, 04:04:28 am »

What do you feel?

Vote Count 1.7


Skumpy (1): gkrieg13
silverspawn (2): Galzria, EFHW
Twistedarcher (3): Robz888, Skumpy, Simon Jester
EFHW (1): Xxraptorslayer96
Simon Jester (5): silverspawn, SpaceAnemone, DatSwan, iguanaiguana, Twistedarcher

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends Monday, August 13th at 7 pm FT. That's in 15 hours.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #291 on: August 13, 2018, 05:14:29 am »

Simon's flailing doesn't scream town to me. No intention to move.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #292 on: August 13, 2018, 05:34:20 am »

I'll be around today, almost certainly there for deadline.

This Simon wagon feels like a really bad idea. Firstly, gut says town, I think you people really need to consider the value in lynching somebody who has done a good job of sparking discussion and who seems just too awkward to be scum. Space is voting because of a theory that I have presented as clearly as I possibly could as complete and utter hogwash and poppycock. I'm sure they (and maybe others are thinking) 'oh, it's not a slip but they're still partners, oh man!' No, that's wrong as well. Silverspawn and Silver's Pawn aren't very convincing in their arguments, silver's I remember as being a selection out of EFHW's wagon. TA at least I can understand.

And as for DatSwan...

How he has flown completely under the radar so far, I have absolutely no clue. I suspect due in part to Galz's read. But there's a lot I don't trust, such as being the last one to vote (which I think he's done before, even as town, but still something I don't trust), his arbitrary reads which II aptly described as:

No offense, but you sound to me like you are getting your reads from a random number generator and your scum narratives from a magic 8 ball.....

and his reaction to my coalition offer, which I am now going to settle on as the scummiest response. Maybe other posts interest me too, who knows? So, I'd be OK putting a vote there, but doing so makes it easier for Simon to be the lynch, so I have to stay on TA unless somebody else wants to try starting a wagon there.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #293 on: August 13, 2018, 06:21:05 am »

Simon's flailing doesn't scream town to me. No intention to move.

Where did I "flail"?

You won't find gold nor scum in your tunnel Silver, get out already.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #294 on: August 13, 2018, 07:06:43 am »

Ugh, a Datswan - reread didn't gave much. He keeps his cards close to himself, don't explain his votes much and is generally vague it seems to me. Although I don't get that much of a scumvibe because of it, but I don't really know his style at all..

Real question - Why? I have like a tinfoil hat D1 theory, but it is currently being outweighed by the silliness of the approach.

Could we hear about the theory now tho? What is your stance on Skumpy right now?

And I realize I need to vote. After reading and analyzing I have 3 canidates.
1 of which is never getting lynched today - so not bothering.

It is actually a close choice on the other two. But for now...

Vote: Simon

I really, really don't like this vote. The timing is perfect for scum to jump on and there is no reasoning what so ever. Just join the kill-the-Jester club will ya, no entrance fee required.. that is not pretty.

And ugh. Please Robz, Galz, Space, gkrieg - come in here. We need you to see if another path is possible. I think TA is better than Datswan right now, but Skumpys case is pretty solid. Datswan- lynch yes/no motivate?
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #295 on: August 13, 2018, 07:48:41 am »

vote: TA
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #296 on: August 13, 2018, 07:58:54 am »

What do you feel?

Vote Count 1.8


Skumpy (1): gkrieg13
silverspawn (1): Galzria
Twistedarcher (4): Robz888, Skumpy, Simon Jester, EFHW
EFHW (1): Xxraptorslayer96
Simon Jester (5): silverspawn, SpaceAnemone, DatSwan, iguanaiguana, Twistedarcher

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Day 1 ends Monday, August 13th at 7 pm FT. That's in 11 hours.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #297 on: August 13, 2018, 09:27:15 am »

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #298 on: August 13, 2018, 09:50:40 am »

Space is voting because of a theory that I have presented as clearly as I possibly could as complete and utter hogwash and poppycock.

Space is voting because Simon seems like their top candidate for scum of the people they feel happy with pushing for a D1 lynch.

Do you think Simon is a bad lynch because you think he's townie, or just because you don't like my one comment?

PPE 3: started a response this morning and it got forgotten about...
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #299 on: August 13, 2018, 10:12:24 am »

vote: TA

Why TA over simon?
Why Simon at all? TA hasn't been contributing.
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