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chogg

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When to ignore Sea Hag (?)
« on: March 02, 2012, 06:13:50 am »
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http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120301-131714-add74c9c.html

cards in supply: Apothecary, Bank, Council Room, Hamlet, Highway, Lookout, Philosopher's Stone, Potion, Sea Hag, Wharf, and Woodcutter

So, I see Lookout on the board, and I remember it's a great Sea Hag counter.  And then I see Apothecary, and I think... screw it, I'm doing something different here!  Opponent opens Lookout, I open Potion, and then she buys a Sea Hag as I get my Lookout.

Turn 3 is textbook: she plays Sea Hag, I play Lookout.  Then I start getting Apothecary and Wharf, with some Hamlets thrown in, continuing to deal with the curses pretty well.  (Apothecary + Lookout is a nice combo too!  Unfortunately, I discover Wharf + Lookout is a bit of a nombo; it draws the top-decked curses into my hand at the start of my turn).

Things start picking up around Turn 10: I buy 2 Highways, 2 Hamlets, and another Apothecary.  Now I'm starting to get an engine which laughs at Sea Hags, despite the fact my opponent bought a second Hag the turn before.  Turn 13, I buy 2 Highways and 2 Wharves.  Nice!

With Hamlets, I haven't been discarding for Buys, due to the Wharf.  Soon though, I realize all those Highways give me plenty of purchasing power, so I'd better have the Buys for it!  I end it on Turn 15 by buying 3 Provinces and 6 free cards: 2 Duchies, 2 Hamlets, and yes, 2 Curses.  That empties the latter two piles to end the game.

It's always very satisfying to ignore a power attack and win (and also to win by emptying Curses).  4 Provinces in 15 turns is respectable, especially vs. Cursing attacks.  In this case, I think my opponent may have erred by never buying a single Wharf.  Maybe the Sea Hags were hurting her early purchasing power, and also using up her terminal actions?

Finally: why didn't this earn PileDriver for curses?  I had all 10, and I won.  Other cards give PileDriver even if you trash them later on, right?
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Re: When to ignore Sea Hag (?)
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2012, 09:52:57 am »
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Well played. I'll probably look back at your game a couple times just to see the combo :).
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Re: When to ignore Sea Hag (?)
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2012, 11:45:22 am »
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As soon as you start drawing your whole deck you can start to discard curses with hamlet for actions and buys and THEN play lookout to trash them which makes wharf / lookout much less of a nombo..
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Re: When to ignore Sea Hag (?)
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2012, 01:29:53 am »
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Finally: why didn't this earn PileDriver for curses?  I had all 10, and I won.  Other cards give PileDriver even if you trash them later on, right?

Maybe it only counts it if you actually buy them, rather than have them given to you.
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Re: When to ignore Sea Hag (?)
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2012, 06:17:36 am »
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Finally: why didn't this earn PileDriver for curses?  I had all 10, and I won.  Other cards give PileDriver even if you trash them later on, right?

Maybe it only counts it if you actually buy them, rather than have them given to you.

I've seen it awarded on Embargo boards.  Maybe they don't want given-out curses to count because there'd be too many PileDrivers?  Then again, you already don't get PileDriver unless you win.
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Re: When to ignore Sea Hag (?)
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2012, 11:50:36 pm »
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As soon as you start drawing your whole deck you can start to discard curses with hamlet for actions and buys and THEN play lookout to trash them which makes wharf / lookout much less of a nombo..

True story. Stuff like this is hard to master, but knowing how to manipulate your deck is what separates level 40+ people from other experienced players.
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