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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #850 on: July 19, 2018, 11:31:17 am »

And, Idplay: Would your item work if the X-shot player had already used up all their shots?

I think so.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #851 on: July 19, 2018, 11:33:06 am »

Tam Sung, a good-aligned spirit. My ability is One shot grant "Reveal Essence". I targeted mcmc N1 and he chose not to have his role, alignment, and items confirmed by the mod at the beginning of today which is pretty scummy to me. vote: mcmc

I also have an item that allows a beast to turn their X shot ability into a nightly ability.

What does it mean? Can you elaborate on your power a little?..

I did. Anything else and I'm basically quoting.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #852 on: July 19, 2018, 11:37:08 am »

Ooooh i got it oh my god, that’s a role
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #853 on: July 19, 2018, 11:37:42 am »

I’m a 1-shot bulletproof Spirit.

I also had an item that would let me watch someone from a previous night. So last night I watched Datswan and got that no one targeted him. Unfortunately the item broke (the wording was such that I didn’t think it was a 1-shot item).
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #854 on: July 19, 2018, 11:39:38 am »

I’m a 1-shot bulletproof Spirit.

I also had an item that would let me watch someone from a previous night. So last night I watched Datswan and got that no one targeted him. Unfortunately the item broke (the wording was such that I didn’t think it was a 1-shot item).
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #855 on: July 19, 2018, 12:24:39 pm »

I am good aligned, I am da samurai (flavor), I am a human.

I started the game with no abilities and yes night 1 I received the ability to reveal essence which makes the mod reveal my alignment, role, and items. It could be used starting night 2 but was not limited to night 2. Also the power mentions that if a player is wearing a disguise their disguise will be revealed instead of their true essence. I didn’t use the power last night because a) I’m aware it can’t actually confirm I am town because of the disguise caveat and b) I didn’t want to reveal that I had the ability or what items I had if not necessary.

I did start the game with an item. If the player holding the item is a samurai they can kill someone at night. My first question to iguana was am I a samurai as my name is da samurai but I’m called a human. He didn’t directly answer, he edited my initial pm to say (paraphrasing) I might become a samurai.

I have not attempted to use the item, I have not given the item away. I debated giving the item to galz but as there is a potential galz is lying/scum combined with my belief that vigs shouldn’t shoot early on I decided to hold it and see if I became a samuria.

This should explain my initial want for galz to expose what items he was aware of because I would be more likely to trust galz if he knew the name of the item I had on me.

Upon typing the lost I included the name of the item, I still think it may be smart for me to conceal it and see if galz knows what the item is that I hold. But if people disagree I can say what it is.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #856 on: July 19, 2018, 12:28:32 pm »

vote: mcmc
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #857 on: July 19, 2018, 12:30:05 pm »

The item in question is "Jack's Samurai Sword". Most of what he's said about it is accurate - except it's impossible for him to not have known that it belongs to Jack.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #858 on: July 19, 2018, 12:31:19 pm »

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #859 on: July 19, 2018, 12:46:47 pm »

The item in question is "Jack's Samurai Sword". Most of what he's said about it is accurate - except it's impossible for him to not have known that it belongs to Jack.

iguana can you confirm you have not made a clerical error in how you wrote the name of the itema. I will ask this more specifically in my qt and suggest you do the same galz. That’s is not the exact wording of the name of the item.

Also yes I know it belongs to samurai jack but it explicitly says that if the player holding it is a samurai hey can kill someone at night not if samurai jack is holding the item.

I never thought samurai jack couldn’t use it.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #860 on: July 19, 2018, 12:48:14 pm »

vote: mcmc

Explain the vote please? Is it because I didn’t blindly give you the ability to kill when I don’t know your alignment? Or if you even are samurai jack?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #861 on: July 19, 2018, 12:50:53 pm »

Tam Sung, a good-aligned spirit. My ability is One shot grant "Reveal Essence". I targeted mcmc N1 and he chose not to have his role, alignment, and items confirmed by the mod at the beginning of today which is pretty scummy to me. vote: mcmc

I also have an item that allows a beast to turn their X shot ability into a nightly ability.

Care to also explain your vote? Are you aware the ability would reveal a disguise if the player had one? If not why in the work would I use the ability instead of using it the night after I am forced to claim that I have it. My only guess here is that you think that it could only be used night 2 in which case I agree it would have been scummy not to use it.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #862 on: July 19, 2018, 12:52:49 pm »

Tam Sung, a good-aligned spirit. My ability is One shot grant "Reveal Essence". I targeted mcmc N1 and he chose not to have his role, alignment, and items confirmed by the mod at the beginning of today which is pretty scummy to me. vote: mcmc

I also have an item that allows a beast to turn their X shot ability into a nightly ability.

Care to also explain your vote? Are you aware the ability would reveal a disguise if the player had one? If not why in the work would I use the ability instead of using it the night after I am forced to claim that I have it. My only guess here is that you think that it could only be used night 2 in which case I agree it would have been scummy not to use it.

What is a disguise?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #863 on: July 19, 2018, 12:55:52 pm »

Tam Sung, a good-aligned spirit. My ability is One shot grant "Reveal Essence". I targeted mcmc N1 and he chose not to have his role, alignment, and items confirmed by the mod at the beginning of today which is pretty scummy to me. vote: mcmc

I also have an item that allows a beast to turn their X shot ability into a nightly ability.

Care to also explain your vote? Are you aware the ability would reveal a disguise if the player had one? If not why in the work would I use the ability instead of using it the night after I am forced to claim that I have it. My only guess here is that you think that it could only be used night 2 in which case I agree it would have been scummy not to use it.

What is a disguise?

No clue but if you are wearing one that is revealed and not your true essence
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #864 on: July 19, 2018, 12:57:37 pm »

The item in question is "Jack's Samurai Sword". Most of what he's said about it is accurate - except it's impossible for him to not have known that it belongs to Jack.

iguana can you confirm you have not made a clerical error in how you wrote the name of the itema. I will ask this more specifically in my qt and suggest you do the same galz. That’s is not the exact wording of the name of the item.

Also yes I know it belongs to samurai jack but it explicitly says that if the player holding it is a samurai hey can kill someone at night not if samurai jack is holding the item.

I never thought samurai jack couldn’t use it.

Let me clarify - shouldn't have used quotes here - I don't know the exact technical name of the sword that Iguana may have used. I have been told that I know that my sword exists, is in the game, and that I can wield it. It is clearly Jack's Sword though.

The reason for my vote is that your logic is inconsistent - I claimed Jack, uncontested. You claim to know the item is Jack's (it's pretty clear) - yet you say you didn't trust me and that:

"I would be more likely to trust galz if he knew the name of the item I had on me."

Yet if I was Jack (which again, uncontested), and you knew the item belonged to Jack, it doesn't seem to follow that you would question me on this.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #865 on: July 19, 2018, 01:06:21 pm »

The item in question is "Jack's Samurai Sword". Most of what he's said about it is accurate - except it's impossible for him to not have known that it belongs to Jack.

iguana can you confirm you have not made a clerical error in how you wrote the name of the itema. I will ask this more specifically in my qt and suggest you do the same galz. That’s is not the exact wording of the name of the item.

Also yes I know it belongs to samurai jack but it explicitly says that if the player holding it is a samurai hey can kill someone at night not if samurai jack is holding the item.

I never thought samurai jack couldn’t use it.

Let me clarify - shouldn't have used quotes here - I don't know the exact technical name of the sword that Iguana may have used. I have been told that I know that my sword exists, is in the game, and that I can wield it. It is clearly Jack's Sword though.
Okay yea the quotes threw me off it is Samurai Jack’s Sword. Not Jack’s Samurai Sword.

The reason for my vote is that your logic is inconsistent - I claimed Jack, uncontested. You claim to know the item is Jack's (it's pretty clear) - yet you say you didn't trust me and that:

"I would be more likely to trust galz if he knew the name of the item I had on me."

Yet if I was Jack (which again, uncontested), and you knew the item belonged to Jack, it doesn't seem to follow that you would question me on this.

That is not the only thing I said. Mainly I do not know that you are town and as I said even taking that risk into account (I think you are town) I’m not a fan of vigs shooting anyway so I didn’t find the risk of giving you the sword worth it.

The part about you knowing the name of the item is that there is a non-zero chance that you are an evil being in the disguise of samurai jack or have just fake claimed samurai jack and that the real samurai jack was keeping quiet because they are super important to town and didn’t want to get killed. That is a long shot but possible and you knowing exactly if the items samurai jack can use makes me more comfortable that you are the real samurai jack.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #866 on: July 19, 2018, 01:11:30 pm »

So the thing about mcmc is, he's scum.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #867 on: July 19, 2018, 01:12:34 pm »

So the thing about mcmc is, he's scum.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #868 on: July 19, 2018, 01:13:13 pm »

Not taking advantage of the reveal essence to become a near-IC is very, very scummy. This whole "oh but what if I was disguised" business doesn't add up... I mean, that's something mafia would worry about. Like, a townie would get this, use it, be happy to be confirmed town, and not fret the whole disguise business.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #869 on: July 19, 2018, 01:13:41 pm »

I actually move that we should halt the massclaim and just lynch mcmc now.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #870 on: July 19, 2018, 01:15:03 pm »

I actually move that we should halt the massclaim and just lynch mcmc now.

Why wouldn't we keep mcmc alive and let him use his IC thing tonight?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #871 on: July 19, 2018, 01:15:18 pm »

I don't understand why "if I'm in a disguise this wouldn't work" is something that would prevent you from revealing your essence. Are you in a disguise? You're not claiming to be. The rest of us wouldn't even know about the disguise thing. So you wouldn't even need to muddy the waters in such a fashion.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #872 on: July 19, 2018, 01:15:42 pm »

I actually move that we should halt the massclaim and just lynch mcmc now.

Why wouldn't we keep mcmc alive and let him use his IC thing tonight?

If he was town he would have used it already, nice try scum partner though.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #873 on: July 19, 2018, 01:15:49 pm »

Not taking advantage of the reveal essence to become a near-IC is very, very scummy. This whole "oh but what if I was disguised" business doesn't add up... I mean, that's something mafia would worry about. Like, a townie would get this, use it, be happy to be confirmed town, and not fret the whole disguise business.

Vote: mcmc

Yes, this is exactly what I am thinking
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #874 on: July 19, 2018, 01:16:08 pm »

Ya, shouldn't you know if you are in a disguise?
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