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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #675 on: July 13, 2018, 04:14:21 pm »

Sorry guys, had a paper deadline today.  What is scummy about PPS?

What isn't?

Consistency. The only anomaly was the gkrieg vote which was still consistent with townreading Galz. Otherwise, I’m pretty much convinced faust and/or Robz are scum and have been playing to that end. I am also feeling like if Robz is, indeed, a lover, the other person is faust but the fact that he won’t own it strikes me as scummy af. I made a pretty decent analysis of that hypothesis and it was summarily ignored.

Interesting.  This has a lot of self-awareness that I think is more likely to come from scum than town.
I don't know. It's a defense. Not a good one, but if you post a defense, self-awareness is required.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #676 on: July 13, 2018, 04:15:18 pm »

Is it possible for Robz to be a scum!lover and his partner be town?
No.

That is, if Robz is not confirmed town to their lover, then they should ebsolutely 100% claim.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #677 on: July 13, 2018, 04:18:36 pm »

The only thing I dislike about the PPS lynch is that he's sort of infuriating me, and I learned from a game or two ago that me being infuriated at PPS is a sign of him being town.
I get that.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #678 on: July 13, 2018, 04:19:34 pm »

That recent stream of consciousness from gkrieg had a lot of bad reasoning in it.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #679 on: July 13, 2018, 04:22:16 pm »

PPS is scummy in every game he plays. I'd go there for lacl of something better, tbh, cos i have never been able to read him.
Would probably prefer idtpg though?
vote: idptg

Isn't IDPTG also scummy in every game he plays?
Isn't that a really stupid rhethorical question? Could you maybe say what you actually think instead of just alluding?

I always find IDPTG scummy, so saying PPS is scummy in every game is not a good reason for not voting him if you like the case on him and he is scummy.  Especially when he votes for IDPTG, someone who is often scumread when he is town.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #680 on: July 13, 2018, 04:22:58 pm »

You don't have to have a QT together to know the other lover. 

vote: Robz
Is that a reason to vote for Robz?

No, it was everything I said previous to it, was just putting it in what I thought was going to be my last post.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #681 on: July 13, 2018, 04:25:08 pm »

Sorry guys, had a paper deadline today.  What is scummy about PPS?

What isn't?

Consistency. The only anomaly was the gkrieg vote which was still consistent with townreading Galz. Otherwise, I’m pretty much convinced faust and/or Robz are scum and have been playing to that end. I am also feeling like if Robz is, indeed, a lover, the other person is faust but the fact that he won’t own it strikes me as scummy af. I made a pretty decent analysis of that hypothesis and it was summarily ignored.

Interesting.  This has a lot of self-awareness that I think is more likely to come from scum than town.
I don't know. It's a defense. Not a good one, but if you post a defense, self-awareness is required.

But it isn't really a defense.  It was asking what essentially was townie about PPS, which I think town is less likely to know about themselves.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #682 on: July 13, 2018, 04:25:51 pm »

That recent stream of consciousness from gkrieg had a lot of bad reasoning in it.

Anything more than what you were just pointing out?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #683 on: July 13, 2018, 05:01:57 pm »

Vote count 2.5

Robz888 (3): IDontPlayThisGame, McMcsalot, gkrieg13
IDontPlayThisGame (4): Hydrad, Haddock, faust, Lalight
gkrieg13 (1): Robz888
faust (1): pingpongsam
pingpongsam (1): Galzria

not voting (1): EFHW

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 1 ends Monday, July 16, 2018, 10:30:00 am
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Point iguana. Not that points really matter with a result, but still.
Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #684 on: July 13, 2018, 05:13:31 pm »

Still have a strong scum read on gkrieg.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #685 on: July 13, 2018, 05:24:28 pm »

I think faust and Robz are lovers. I'm coming around to the idea they both know each other to be town which explains a lack of co-claim(?) (regardless if the other one is faust). I was all about lynching Robz or faust before the lover claim. After really situating on that claim and the implications I'm willing to look elsewhere today. I thought we got mod-killed after two prods so is the IDP lynch worthwhile unless we beat the prod-kill?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #686 on: July 13, 2018, 05:41:44 pm »

I think faust and Robz are lovers. I'm coming around to the idea they both know each other to be town which explains a lack of co-claim(?) (regardless if the other one is faust). I was all about lynching Robz or faust before the lover claim. After really situating on that claim and the implications I'm willing to look elsewhere today. I thought we got mod-killed after two prods so is the IDP lynch worthwhile unless we beat the prod-kill?

Does it in any way help to publicly speculate? If the other lover wanted to claim, they would. Could that be any more clear at this point?
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #687 on: July 13, 2018, 06:55:26 pm »

Hey everyone. Sorry about that. I got a new phone and got locked out of a bunch of stuff, including this. Catching up soon

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #688 on: July 13, 2018, 07:01:05 pm »

Request prod on Idplay if people don't want to vote there, maybe I can prod him to death.

Just got to this bit. I love this strategy. I wish it worked.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #689 on: July 13, 2018, 07:03:43 pm »

I think faust and Robz are lovers. I'm coming around to the idea they both know each other to be town which explains a lack of co-claim(?) (regardless if the other one is faust). I was all about lynching Robz or faust before the lover claim. After really situating on that claim and the implications I'm willing to look elsewhere today. I thought we got mod-killed after two prods so is the IDP lynch worthwhile unless we beat the prod-kill?

In trying to make sure it was still D2, I saw this out of order. I'm not a terrible lynch, but I'm not self-voting.

FWIW, I think mcmc is town-y so far. Somewhere on page twenty-something at the moment. Low 20s.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #690 on: July 13, 2018, 07:32:04 pm »

Not sure how I feel about the Robz claim. I've never played in a game with Lovers before and, given that this is closed and could be a fake claim, they increase the odds on prematurely ending games (like Space's D4 Suicidal role in Cancer Mafia). My current thought is that we either lynch now or never unless we end up with strong indications that it's likely not to be a town-town pairing. I admit I haven't thought through it a ton though.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #691 on: July 13, 2018, 07:33:28 pm »

I think faust and Robz are lovers. I'm coming around to the idea they both know each other to be town which explains a lack of co-claim(?) (regardless if the other one is faust). I was all about lynching Robz or faust before the lover claim. After really situating on that claim and the implications I'm willing to look elsewhere today. I thought we got mod-killed after two prods so is the IDP lynch worthwhile unless we beat the prod-kill?

Does it in any way help to publicly speculate? If the other lover wanted to claim, they would. Could that be any more clear at this point?

I agree with this.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #692 on: July 13, 2018, 07:37:15 pm »

I am a town Lover, my death imperils another member of the town.

Does your Lover know this?

I don't think I'm going to answer this.

THIS NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED.

Why can’t you answer if your lover knows of your existence...this is so such a scummy part of the claim. I don’t get why everyone is fine leaving robz and lover claim with zero explaination, no supporting claim, this is ridiculous.

Mcmc is making a lot of sense.  Robz not realizing what information is scummy to withhold and what would normally be withheld if it were a real claim is a conspiracy theory I can hold on to.

I kinda like this too. Not a huge fan of conspiracy theories though.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #693 on: July 13, 2018, 07:43:26 pm »

I think faust and Robz are lovers. I'm coming around to the idea they both know each other to be town which explains a lack of co-claim(?) (regardless if the other one is faust). I was all about lynching Robz or faust before the lover claim. After really situating on that claim and the implications I'm willing to look elsewhere today. I thought we got mod-killed after two prods so is the IDP lynch worthwhile unless we beat the prod-kill?

Does it in any way help to publicly speculate? If the other lover wanted to claim, they would. Could that be any more clear at this point?

Yeah, I think it does. Either they are a lover pair and the same alignment and thus very unlikely to be scum or they are scum partners with a fakeclaim. The behavior suggests some degree of partnering. That behavior was large factor in my scum read. Having a rationale for giving them a town read instead seems a worthwhile thing fto make public because otherwise I get mislynched for opportunistically jumping from the tunnel to another candidate with no reasoning because, you know, being inconsistent would just not be scummy at all, right?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #694 on: July 13, 2018, 10:42:10 pm »

I think faust and Robz are lovers. I'm coming around to the idea they both know each other to be town which explains a lack of co-claim(?) (regardless if the other one is faust). I was all about lynching Robz or faust before the lover claim. After really situating on that claim and the implications I'm willing to look elsewhere today. I thought we got mod-killed after two prods so is the IDP lynch worthwhile unless we beat the prod-kill?

Does it in any way help to publicly speculate? If the other lover wanted to claim, they would. Could that be any more clear at this point?

Yeah, I think it does. Either they are a lover pair and the same alignment and thus very unlikely to be scum or they are scum partners with a fakeclaim. The behavior suggests some degree of partnering. That behavior was large factor in my scum read. Having a rationale for giving them a town read instead seems a worthwhile thing fto make public because otherwise I get mislynched for opportunistically jumping from the tunnel to another candidate with no reasoning because, you know, being inconsistent would just not be scummy at all, right?

Ok this makes me feel better about you. I wasn't actually following along fully why you were publicly speculating it. While I'm not sure if it was the right call still I think you are town.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #695 on: July 14, 2018, 08:30:35 am »

vote: faust
vote: Robz
vote: pps
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #696 on: July 14, 2018, 08:34:20 am »

vote: faust
vote: Robz
vote: pps


these are your scumreads? vote pps again if yes
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #697 on: July 14, 2018, 08:43:30 am »

IDPTG is here and looks townie. vote: faust.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #698 on: July 14, 2018, 08:49:18 am »

Unvote, a case forthcoming on someone not faust or Robz.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #699 on: July 14, 2018, 09:17:19 am »

vote: pps
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