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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #400 on: July 10, 2018, 11:10:08 am »

can we prod EFHW if she's not voting?

Can we prod you if you're not voting?

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #401 on: July 10, 2018, 11:11:27 am »

can we prod EFHW if she's not voting?

Can we prod you if you're not voting?

No, but I can write things other than votes, she can not
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #402 on: July 10, 2018, 02:07:23 pm »

vote: Lalight
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #403 on: July 10, 2018, 05:32:01 pm »

Well, this is boring. Let's say a bunch of random things:

- The only two people I'm interested in lynching today, barring anybody coming out with results, are faust or Gkrieg.

- I still strongly think we should race claim. I know that I'm human. I've seen a human and a beast flipped, both good, and I know of the existence of a character that is scum and half-demon.

- There's a potential for a triggered UB to exist, and thus Swan's role may not be gone. This could make forcing scum to fake-race claim quite valuable as they could get caught out in a lie.

- Speaking of said character from point two, I believe at some point they will have the opportunity to alignment change. I'm not certain what the conditions for this are though, or how exactly the process works. But as they are half-human, half-demon, and the character changes sides in the show, it simply seems a natural process.

Since nobody wants to get on the faust train right now (I -really- don't think that there are two town players that benefit from getting themsevles lynched. EFHW was questionable, because while she's more valuable dead than alive, she's NOT more valuable dead than scum), I'm going to switch to Gkrieg.

He was scummy yesterday, is scummy today, and had a scumm-ily timed vote on EFHW.
vote: Gkrieg
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #404 on: July 10, 2018, 07:08:16 pm »

Vote: Gkrieg
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #405 on: July 10, 2018, 07:49:50 pm »

I guess I'll also say right now I'm liking galz thinking
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #406 on: July 10, 2018, 08:15:00 pm »

Yeah, I was on the fence with that guy but here he is making em think he might be town for a change. I'm not sure what the actual case is on gkrieg but a faust lynch seems too easy.

Let's do a wagon thingy Vote: gkrieg
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #407 on: July 10, 2018, 08:36:09 pm »

Yeah, I was on the fence with that guy but here he is making em think he might be town for a change. I'm not sure what the actual case is on gkrieg but a faust lynch seems too easy.

Let's do a wagon thingy Vote: gkrieg

You've said this before. There have, at most, been 2 people voting for Faust, with the majority of people expressing disinterest towards his lynch. I fail to see how it could be classified as "too easy".
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #408 on: July 10, 2018, 08:40:34 pm »

Okay then, Vote:faust
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #409 on: July 10, 2018, 08:41:05 pm »

Vote: faust
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #410 on: July 10, 2018, 08:46:23 pm »

Vote: faust

I'm not suggesting you have to vote for him, although I think it's a good lynch. You can vote wherever you want. What I would like to see is justification for your assertion, since I haven't seen it to be true.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #411 on: July 10, 2018, 08:50:56 pm »

Pretty sure my whole game has been analyzing faust in a negative light. You might not agree but not sure why I would need to repeat it all. Strange there was no need to back my vote on gkrieg with any case and i flippantly even said I didn’t see one despite voting him in the same breath.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #412 on: July 10, 2018, 09:12:24 pm »

Vote count 2.1

faust (2): Lalight, pingpongsam
Robz888 (1): IDontPlayThisGame
IDontPlayThisGame (1): faust
gkrieg13 (2): Galzria, Hydrad

not voting (5): McMcsalot, EFHW, gkrieg13, Haddock, Robz888

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 1 ends Monday, July 16, 2018, 10:30:00 am
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #413 on: July 10, 2018, 09:57:49 pm »

Vote: gkrieg
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #414 on: July 10, 2018, 11:30:07 pm »

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #415 on: July 11, 2018, 01:42:02 am »

vote: gkrieg L-2

He is so under the radar i kinda forgot he’s in a game
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #416 on: July 11, 2018, 01:47:31 am »

I -really- don't think that there are two town players that benefit from getting themsevles lynched. EFHW was questionable, because while she's more valuable dead than alive, she's NOT more valuable dead than scum
I do not know why this matters - if anything, believing that I am a town player that benefits from being lynched should make you want to vote me more, not less - but I do not benefit from being lynched. If I did, I would just claim and say "here, lynch me!".
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #417 on: July 11, 2018, 01:49:20 am »

As most of us agreed to a race lynch, i think we should let EFHW or Galz make a list
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #418 on: July 11, 2018, 01:50:35 am »

I -really- don't think that there are two town players that benefit from getting themsevles lynched. EFHW was questionable, because while she's more valuable dead than alive, she's NOT more valuable dead than scum
I do not know why this matters - if anything, believing that I am a town player that benefits from being lynched should make you want to vote me more, not less - but I do not benefit from being lynched. If I did, I would just claim and say "here, lynch me!".

That’s why, as I said D1, i have a suspicion, you’re a scum player benefited from a lynch
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #419 on: July 11, 2018, 01:58:24 am »

He was scummy yesterday, is scummy today, and had a scumm-ily timed vote on EFHW.
vote: Gkrieg
Great case bro.

How is the timing of gkrieg's vote (which, for people who are interested, was after EFHW's claim) more scummy than Haddock's or PPS's (PPS did not actually vote, but expressed willingness)?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #420 on: July 11, 2018, 02:01:36 am »

I guess I'll also say right now I'm liking galz thinking
You say so, and you said that you are fine with a race claim, so why didn't you race claim?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #421 on: July 11, 2018, 02:05:24 am »

I guess I'll also say right now I'm liking galz thinking
You say so, and you said that you are fine with a race claim, so why didn't you race claim?

My race is machine.

I usually don't do claims tho unless lots of people agree with it as I'm afraid that I might mess things up with a bad claim I guess.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #422 on: July 11, 2018, 03:54:48 am »

Pretty sure my whole game has been analyzing faust in a negative light. You might not agree but not sure why I would need to repeat it all. Strange there was no need to back my vote on gkrieg with any case and i flippantly even said I didn’t see one despite voting him in the same breath.

Which is funny considering this was actually your first post:

I think I’ve finally rubbed off on faust. Almost every post this game looks like my work.

Big town read, though.

Vote: Robz
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #423 on: July 11, 2018, 03:56:56 am »

I -really- don't think that there are two town players that benefit from getting themsevles lynched. EFHW was questionable, because while she's more valuable dead than alive, she's NOT more valuable dead than scum
I do not know why this matters - if anything, believing that I am a town player that benefits from being lynched should make you want to vote me more, not less - but I do not benefit from being lynched. If I did, I would just claim and say "here, lynch me!".

That’s why, as I said D1, i have a suspicion, you’re a scum player benefited from a lynch
I mean, ugh. It could be but honestly that would just be bad game design. It should be town's objective to lynch scum. Having a scum lynch actually be beneficial for scum kind of breaks the game.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #424 on: July 11, 2018, 05:22:26 am »

Figuring out who is scum should be possible.

Townie people:
Hydrad, McMcsalot,

Town-ish people:
Robz888, Galzria, Haddock

Nulls:
Lalight

Which leaves the scums:
Pingpongsam, IDontPlayThisGame, gkrieg13

Well actually I don't have much of a read on any of these. But given that most my reads are townreads, let's Vote: Idplay

I agree with these reads a lot, actually.
I do too, except I would swap  PPS+IDPTG with Lalight.

Why is faust suddenly defending gkrieg?

I'm ok with a race claim.  I'm a beast.

I'm not ok with the big wagons forming yet, there's still more to discuss.  See below:


Haddock can you explain what you hope to get out of people claiming night actions or are you just saying that because it sounds helpful. Like Faust claimed some sort of protection but we had one night kill go through and no expectation of a second so why it help for him to claim anything? Hydrad said he could be framed and Galz said he was samurai jack. So what claims are you looking for?
Do I need to explain myself?  Would prefer to minimise explanation frankly.  It has to do with my role, obviously.
Interesting you want others to claim there night actions because it has something to do with your role. Being non-specific as to why makes sense but my guess would be that you should be more specific as to what you want claimed. You didn’t really answer my question. Like I said Faust claimed protection, hydrad claimed ability to be framed, Galz claimed samurai jack, that’s it. So the only night action to be expected is Faust’s protection and since we didn’t get a blocked kill I don’t see any use in him claiming and explaining to scum how his protection works.


More to the point, why is this a question?  Anyone who has already claimed a role should be claiming what they did last night - because why wouldn't you?   That should be default behaviour unless there is some reason not to claim it.
Again, see my above point you keep saying anyone who claimed a role should claim but literally the only role that was claimed with an action was Faust and I see good reason not to claim anything and no reason his claim would help.
Yeah ok these are fair points.  I guess my attempt to be subtle was doomed to failure.

I want faust to say what he did last night, because as it stands my role-information from last night is pointing in the direction of scum!faust.
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