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[faust]

I am town. I have been trying to get lynched

Also this is something I never hoped to read. Obviously EFHW, you should have tried to be nightkilled rather than lynched.

[LaLight]

I have learned that we cannot exclude the possibility of EFHW changing alignment even after her death. Which sucks.

You know something about alignment-changing?

[faust]

I guess it's no use antagonizing the dead somewhat-IC. But still. Man. And everybody just swallowed it. Granted, EFHW would never have been killed after the claim. But man was that some awful play.

[faust]

I have learned that we cannot exclude the possibility of EFHW changing alignment even after her death. Which sucks.

You know something about alignment-changing?

No, but I asked iguana if we could be sure that EFHW stays town, and he said no. (paraphrasing)

[faust]

I want gkrieg, PPS and Haddock to explain their reasoning for voting/being willing to vote EFHW post-claim.

[faust]

DatSwan kill suggests gkrieg and/or Galzria are scum.

[LaLight]

DatSwan kill suggests gkrieg and/or Galzria are scum.

wow, why?

[LaLight]

I have learned that we cannot exclude the possibility of EFHW changing alignment even after her death. Which sucks.

You know something about alignment-changing?

No, but I asked iguana if we could be sure that EFHW stays town, and he said no. (paraphrasing)

Don't want to be that irritating LaLight again but that's some scummy thinking. "How could we make the best out of situation.. ah, can't restless spirit be on our side?"

[LaLight]

vote: faust

[faust]

I have learned that we cannot exclude the possibility of EFHW changing alignment even after her death. Which sucks.

You know something about alignment-changing?

No, but I asked iguana if we could be sure that EFHW stays town, and he said no. (paraphrasing)

Don't want to be that irritating LaLight again but that's some scummy thinking. "How could we make the best out of situation.. ah, can't restless spirit be on our side?"

Well if I was scum with a way to turn EFHW, it would hardly do much good for me to announce that publicly.

[faust]

DatSwan kill suggests gkrieg and/or Galzria are scum.

wow, why?

- DatSwan pushed for gkrieg
- DatSwan/Galzria have a history of voting for each other
- Galzria did not die even though he claimed main character.

[LaLight]

I have learned that we cannot exclude the possibility of EFHW changing alignment even after her death. Which sucks.

You know something about alignment-changing?

No, but I asked iguana if we could be sure that EFHW stays town, and he said no. (paraphrasing)

Don't want to be that irritating LaLight again but that's some scummy thinking. "How could we make the best out of situation.. ah, can't restless spirit be on our side?"

Well if I was scum with a way to turn EFHW, it would hardly do much good for me to announce that publicly.

Town points though

[LaLight]

DatSwan kill suggests gkrieg and/or Galzria are scum.

wow, why?

- DatSwan pushed for gkrieg
- DatSwan/Galzria have a history of voting for each other
- Galzria did not die even though he claimed main character.

erm. All three points are somewhat irrelevant as 1st is WIFOM, second is irrelevant, this is not voting, third, well, has a point, but it's anyway weak

[LaLight]

DatSwan kill suggests gkrieg and/or Galzria are scum.

wow, why?

- DatSwan pushed for gkrieg
- DatSwan/Galzria have a history of voting for each other
- Galzria did not die even though he claimed main character.

erm. All three points are somewhat irrelevant as 1st is WIFOM, second is irrelevant, this is not voting, third, well, has a point, but it's anyway weak

Third point also assumes you are the scum, as you claimed protective role and didn't die and also you always die N1 as town

[Galzria]

I have learned that we cannot exclude the possibility of EFHW changing alignment even after her death. Which sucks.

You know something about alignment-changing?

No, but I asked iguana if we could be sure that EFHW stays town, and he said no. (paraphrasing)

Don't want to be that irritating LaLight again but that's some scummy thinking. "How could we make the best out of situation.. ah, can't restless spirit be on our side?"

Well if I was scum with a way to turn EFHW, it would hardly do much good for me to announce that publicly.

That's been your defense for almost everything this game. "But I wouldn't do that as scum!"

That's not a defense. It's pure WIFOM. And the fact that you're using it as a defense (again and again) definitely merits a vote: faust.

Not to mention:

DatSwan kill suggests gkrieg and/or Galzria are scum.

wow, why?

- DatSwan pushed for gkrieg
- DatSwan/Galzria have a history of voting for each other
- Galzria did not die even though he claimed main character.

- Datswan being town doesn't make his reads good
- As all alignments. Town v Town, Scum v Town,  and Scum v Scum. You're drawing a conclusion that has no relevance here.
- And you, sir, didn't die even though you claimed a protective role, which is far more suspicious as scum at least had the WIFOM in regards to killing me because I -could- be protected, whereas you almost certainly were not. But this line of argument is what I would expect from scum, so, yeah.

[LaLight]

I have learned that we cannot exclude the possibility of EFHW changing alignment even after her death. Which sucks.

You know something about alignment-changing?

No, but I asked iguana if we could be sure that EFHW stays town, and he said no. (paraphrasing)

Don't want to be that irritating LaLight again but that's some scummy thinking. "How could we make the best out of situation.. ah, can't restless spirit be on our side?"

Well if I was scum with a way to turn EFHW, it would hardly do much good for me to announce that publicly.

That's been your defense for almost everything this game. "But I wouldn't do that as scum!"

That's not a defense. It's pure WIFOM. And the fact that you're using it as a defense (again and again) definitely merits a vote: faust.

Not to mention:

DatSwan kill suggests gkrieg and/or Galzria are scum.

wow, why?

- DatSwan pushed for gkrieg
- DatSwan/Galzria have a history of voting for each other
- Galzria did not die even though he claimed main character.

- Datswan being town doesn't make his reads good
- As all alignments. Town v Town, Scum v Town,  and Scum v Scum. You're drawing a conclusion that has no relevance here.
- And you, sir, didn't die even though you claimed a protective role, which is far more suspicious as scum at least had the WIFOM in regards to killing me because I -could- be protected, whereas you almost certainly were not. But this line of argument is what I would expect from scum, so, yeah.

Wow I feel smart, that's rare

[Galzria]

Haha yeah. You ninja'd me.

[pingpongsam]

I want gkrieg, PPS and Haddock to explain their reasoning for voting/being willing to vote EFHW post-claim.

I straight up said I'd be the hammer man. I'm generally blaise about D1 and this was absolutely no exception. I was going to hammer the L-1 person regardless. That her claim and self vote put EFHW to L-1 is not my issue at all.

[faust]

I have learned that we cannot exclude the possibility of EFHW changing alignment even after her death. Which sucks.

You know something about alignment-changing?

No, but I asked iguana if we could be sure that EFHW stays town, and he said no. (paraphrasing)

Don't want to be that irritating LaLight again but that's some scummy thinking. "How could we make the best out of situation.. ah, can't restless spirit be on our side?"

Well if I was scum with a way to turn EFHW, it would hardly do much good for me to announce that publicly.

Town points though

Yes, well that's an entirely different argument to make. Which one are you suggesting?

[faust]

That's been your defense for almost everything this game. "But I wouldn't do that as scum!"

Well the accusations have been particularly ridiculous this game. I'm not sure how else to respond to conspiracy theories. The fact of the matter is that I don't plan out my every move and hope to achieve some incredible far-fetched things. That's an ashersky trait.

What we see instead is me getting frustrated with the game, and thus trying to shake things up. You know, get some people to participate some more. I wouldn't have much reason to do so as scum, since obviously that leads to lazy people who can't be bothered to scumhunt to go "oh faust is different let's lynch him because different always means scum herp derp".

Not to mention:

DatSwan kill suggests gkrieg and/or Galzria are scum.

wow, why?

- DatSwan pushed for gkrieg
- DatSwan/Galzria have a history of voting for each other
- Galzria did not die even though he claimed main character.

- Datswan being town doesn't make his reads good
- As all alignments. Town v Town, Scum v Town,  and Scum v Scum. You're drawing a conclusion that has no relevance here.
- And you, sir, didn't die even though you claimed a protective role, which is far more suspicious as scum at least had the WIFOM in regards to killing me because I -could- be protected, whereas you almost certainly were not. But this line of argument is what I would expect from scum, so, yeah.

- yes but scum is more likley to kill off players that pose a threat to them. And then they bank on town not analyzing nightkills. This pattern is exhitibed in multiple past games.
- the conclusion obivously is that scum!you would want to eliminate someone who will probably eventually go after you
- if you put yourself in scum's shoes here, it should not at all be surprising that I am still alive.

I can't help but feel that you want to not understand me.

[LaLight]

I have learned that we cannot exclude the possibility of EFHW changing alignment even after her death. Which sucks.

You know something about alignment-changing?

No, but I asked iguana if we could be sure that EFHW stays town, and he said no. (paraphrasing)

Don't want to be that irritating LaLight again but that's some scummy thinking. "How could we make the best out of situation.. ah, can't restless spirit be on our side?"

Well if I was scum with a way to turn EFHW, it would hardly do much good for me to announce that publicly.

Town points though

Yes, well that's an entirely different argument to make. Which one are you suggesting?

That you're scum thinking but told about it to claim town points as "If you were scum, you wouldn't do that"

[faust]

I have learned that we cannot exclude the possibility of EFHW changing alignment even after her death. Which sucks.

You know something about alignment-changing?

No, but I asked iguana if we could be sure that EFHW stays town, and he said no. (paraphrasing)

Don't want to be that irritating LaLight again but that's some scummy thinking. "How could we make the best out of situation.. ah, can't restless spirit be on our side?"

Well if I was scum with a way to turn EFHW, it would hardly do much good for me to announce that publicly.

Town points though

Yes, well that's an entirely different argument to make. Which one are you suggesting?

That you're scum thinking but told about it to claim town points as "If you were scum, you wouldn't do that"

But I am town deciding to share a potentially useful peace of information with my fellow townies, as well as venting some over the unpredictability of alignment change games. Why do you think it is not simply that?

[faust]

And hey I can answer that for you! The answer is that you already thought I was scummy and simply chose to believe the version that better fits your bias. Or, of course, you're scum.

[LaLight]

I have learned that we cannot exclude the possibility of EFHW changing alignment even after her death. Which sucks.

You know something about alignment-changing?

No, but I asked iguana if we could be sure that EFHW stays town, and he said no. (paraphrasing)

Don't want to be that irritating LaLight again but that's some scummy thinking. "How could we make the best out of situation.. ah, can't restless spirit be on our side?"

Well if I was scum with a way to turn EFHW, it would hardly do much good for me to announce that publicly.

Town points though

Yes, well that's an entirely different argument to make. Which one are you suggesting?

That you're scum thinking but told about it to claim town points as "If you were scum, you wouldn't do that"

But I am town deciding to share a potentially useful peace of information with my fellow townies, as well as venting some over the unpredictability of alignment change games. Why do you think it is not simply that?

I don't know, it's just that you thought about this and I didn't. I even forgot the fact about the alignment change until you told about it today. Yeah, you can say, I am dumber, but I think scum would think about it more probably, just that. Also I thought you were scum yesterDay for you think invalid reasons, but they still stand up to me. This is just one little drop more.

[LaLight]

And hey I can answer that for you! The answer is that you already thought I was scummy and simply chose to believe the version that better fits your bias. Or, of course, you're scum.

Well, maybe it's so as I said in my previous post. I am really scared of scum!you and I think you are scum this game, this is bugging me from D1 that something is off. Thing is, I can never convince anyone about scum!strong!player because I simply can't explain why i feel them scummy for the most time I feel so so at some point I just drop it