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[Galzria]

I'll bite, because {reasons}:

I'm the Titular Character, and there are items in the game that I'm aware exist, do not possess, but can use.

So given the capitalization, we are meant to assume that that is you actual flavor name rather than Samurai Jack?

(admittedly the original post contains a quoting messup)

You mean, like, the very next game post where I answered you?:

I don't want to sort out Faust's quote fail above as I'm on my phone - but no, the capitalization was me. My actual flavor name is what you would assume I meant - Samurai Jack.

I also do NOT think that more people should claim unless they, with their personal knowledge of roles/items, think it to be worthwhile.

[Galzria]

The last time I saw Faust Galzria making hilariously flawed arguments was when he was scum

It's ridiculous to assume alignment based on flavor. Everyone who has ever played a game here knows this. Everyone who has any experience in setup design knows that you cannot just make all the obvious good people townies because naturally that breaks the game.

First point: Fair, to a degree - show me the last flavored game where the titular character, normally a good guy, was scum?

Scum aren't incriminating flavor names usually only when there aren't enough bad guys to make it work - and generally speaking, incriminating flavor names aren't even incriminating because scum are given good guy fake claims.

[faust]

And yet, what you've called "a terrible plan" is significantly worse when done as town, whereas it has few drawbacks as scum.

Well I was not trying to get anyone to claim, so I was not following that plan.

[Galzria]

And yet, what you've called "a terrible plan" is significantly worse when done as town, whereas it has few drawbacks as scum.

Well I was not trying to get anyone to claim, so I was not following that plan.

Nobody can know if that's true or not.

[Robz888]

I think Samurai Jack is more likely to be town, though could possibly be scum. I think Galz's claim is more on the townie side. Not sure why everyone else is claiming willy nilly.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

I think Samurai Jack is more likely to be town, though could possibly be scum. I think Galz's claim is more on the townie side. Not sure why everyone else is claiming willy nilly.

I just asked for volunteers. No one seems to have taken me up on it and it's very disappointing.

[Galzria]

Sunday's are soooooo slow.

Gkrieg is the only person not to post since I claimed.

[Swowl]

also - probably late to the party on this one but... has anyone else noticed that there are like way more people than normal that seem extremely willing to out their "great PRs"?
Galz is Ninja Jesus or whatever
Faust can proc people
MCMC thinks it would be "detrimental" to reveal his role.
IDP softed at Vig


....what are we making of that? (directed at *not* Galz/Faust/MC/IDP)

Updated (bc I forgot about Hydrad):
Galz is Ninja Jesus or whatever
Faust can proc people
MCMC thinks it would be "detrimental" to reveal his role.
IDP softed at Vig
Hydrad is framed

[gkrieg13]

Sunday's are soooooo slow.

Gkrieg is the only person not to post since I claimed.

No counter claim here.  Faust's position seems weird, even for faust.

[Swowl]

Scum!faust could have claimed protective role to encourage Samurai Jack to claim. It's pretty safe to do that since any other protective roles are unlikely to counter him.

If Galz is lying, the real SJ should definitely speak up because people are about to send items to Galz.

I have no idea what to make of this. You are to smart to assume both
a) it is actually a good idea for the real SJ to speak up
and
b) to assume that there is a single person on this player list rn that is more confident than not that Galz is actually SJ.

Also what am I missing here - Why would it be Town!Beneficial to send items to SJ randomly?

[Swowl]

Galz - What is the downside you see of verifying how many items exist in the game that you can use?

[Swowl]

Scum!faust could have claimed protective role to encourage Samurai Jack to claim. It's pretty safe to do that since any other protective roles are unlikely to counter him.

If Galz is lying, the real SJ should definitely speak up because people are about to send items to Galz.

Why do you assume that there is a town player with the flavor of Samurai Jack?

Also that is the most terrible plan ever.

vote: faust


First: Town!Faust wouldn't out himself as a protective role. That's all sorts of levels of dumb. And he's calling other people's plans terrible? Lol

Second: His push against me, an un-counterclaimed SJ, based on the argument that "Well, there might not be a Samurai Jack" in the game (or that such a character might not be town - even more ridiculous), is simply hilarious. Even in a world where he was correct (which let's be honest, would never exist here) that the character didn't exist, I would need to be scum that was taking a massive, massive risk by claiming it without that knowledge, when every reasonable person would assume that the character is, in fact, in the game.



So, yeah. Scum!Faust here.

its funny that like I can read this and replace "Galz" with "Faust" and "Faust" with "Galz" and it still pretty much makes sense.

How can you justify him claiming being skummy when you have also claimed?

Also, just for fun... regardless of whether it makes them skummy or towny I wanna run a poll:

Question 1) Who believes Galz?
Question 2) Who believes Faust?

[Galzria]

Because player X (me) can claim for whatever reason they see a benefit of doing so based on the concept that:

A) There are likely town PR's that can protect me
B) Even if they don't choose to do so or do not exist, scum certainly doesn't have this knowledge, so shooting at me is a real risk for them.

Whereas a player Y (faust) here, claiming to BE a protective PR doesn't- and shouldn't - have the same faith that a DIFFERENT protective PR might exist to protect them.

Further, given who I am in particular, it's especially beneficial for town to know who I am.

[Swowl]

Because player X (me) can claim for whatever reason they see a benefit of doing so based on the concept that:

A) There are likely town PR's that can protect me
B) Even if they don't choose to do so or do not exist, scum certainly doesn't have this knowledge, so shooting at me is a real risk for them.

Whereas a player Y (faust) here, claiming to BE a protective PR doesn't- and shouldn't - have the same faith that a DIFFERENT protective PR might exist to protect them.

Further, given who I am in particular, it's especially beneficial for town to know who I am.

Right and it makes perfect sense because you would never take this line as skum.

[Galzria]

Because player X (me) can claim for whatever reason they see a benefit of doing so based on the concept that:

A) There are likely town PR's that can protect me
B) Even if they don't choose to do so or do not exist, scum certainly doesn't have this knowledge, so shooting at me is a real risk for them.

Whereas a player Y (faust) here, claiming to BE a protective PR doesn't- and shouldn't - have the same faith that a DIFFERENT protective PR might exist to protect them.

Further, given who I am in particular, it's especially beneficial for town to know who I am.

Right and it makes perfect sense because you would never take this line as skum.

That's a moot point given my claim. You're comparing my claim (flavor) to faust's (role). No, I wouldn't make THIS claim as scum.

[Swowl]

Because player X (me) can claim for whatever reason they see a benefit of doing so based on the concept that:

A) There are likely town PR's that can protect me
B) Even if they don't choose to do so or do not exist, scum certainly doesn't have this knowledge, so shooting at me is a real risk for them.

Whereas a player Y (faust) here, claiming to BE a protective PR doesn't- and shouldn't - have the same faith that a DIFFERENT protective PR might exist to protect them.

Further, given who I am in particular, it's especially beneficial for town to know who I am.

Right and it makes perfect sense because you would never take this line as skum.

That's a moot point given my claim. You're comparing my claim (flavor) to faust's (role). No, I wouldn't make THIS claim as scum.

I’m not comparing anything. And you also claimed (at least parts) of a role - not just flavor.

[Galzria]

Because player X (me) can claim for whatever reason they see a benefit of doing so based on the concept that:

A) There are likely town PR's that can protect me
B) Even if they don't choose to do so or do not exist, scum certainly doesn't have this knowledge, so shooting at me is a real risk for them.

Whereas a player Y (faust) here, claiming to BE a protective PR doesn't- and shouldn't - have the same faith that a DIFFERENT protective PR might exist to protect them.

Further, given who I am in particular, it's especially beneficial for town to know who I am.

Right and it makes perfect sense because you would never take this line as skum.

That's a moot point given my claim. You're comparing my claim (flavor) to faust's (role). No, I wouldn't make THIS claim as scum.

I’m not comparing anything. And you also claimed (at least parts) of a role - not just flavor.

I have not, no.

[Swowl]

Because player X (me) can claim for whatever reason they see a benefit of doing so based on the concept that:

A) There are likely town PR's that can protect me
B) Even if they don't choose to do so or do not exist, scum certainly doesn't have this knowledge, so shooting at me is a real risk for them.

Whereas a player Y (faust) here, claiming to BE a protective PR doesn't- and shouldn't - have the same faith that a DIFFERENT protective PR might exist to protect them.

Further, given who I am in particular, it's especially beneficial for town to know who I am.

Right and it makes perfect sense because you would never take this line as skum.

That's a moot point given my claim. You're comparing my claim (flavor) to faust's (role). No, I wouldn't make THIS claim as scum.

I’m not comparing anything. And you also claimed (at least parts) of a role - not just flavor.

I have not, no.

So you did not say that you have the ability to know items in the game that you can use...?

[Galzria]

Because player X (me) can claim for whatever reason they see a benefit of doing so based on the concept that:

A) There are likely town PR's that can protect me
B) Even if they don't choose to do so or do not exist, scum certainly doesn't have this knowledge, so shooting at me is a real risk for them.

Whereas a player Y (faust) here, claiming to BE a protective PR doesn't- and shouldn't - have the same faith that a DIFFERENT protective PR might exist to protect them.

Further, given who I am in particular, it's especially beneficial for town to know who I am.

Right and it makes perfect sense because you would never take this line as skum.

That's a moot point given my claim. You're comparing my claim (flavor) to faust's (role). No, I wouldn't make THIS claim as scum.

I’m not comparing anything. And you also claimed (at least parts) of a role - not just flavor.

I have not, no.

So you did not say that you have the ability to know items in the game that you can use...?

That is completely unrelated to my role. Items are a entirely different mechanic.

[EFHW]

Scum!faust could have claimed protective role to encourage Samurai Jack to claim. It's pretty safe to do that since any other protective roles are unlikely to counter him.

If Galz is lying, the real SJ should definitely speak up because people are about to send items to Galz.

I have no idea what to make of this. You are to smart to assume both
a) it is actually a good idea for the real SJ to speak up
and
b) to assume that there is a single person on this player list rn that is more confident than not that Galz is actually SJ.

Also what am I missing here - Why would it be Town!Beneficial to send items to SJ randomly?

I believe Galzria in the absence of a counter claim, so I did assume others would as well. People have items they can't use, Galz needs items. Some people will send theirs to Galz.

[Galzria]

Scum!faust could have claimed protective role to encourage Samurai Jack to claim. It's pretty safe to do that since any other protective roles are unlikely to counter him.

If Galz is lying, the real SJ should definitely speak up because people are about to send items to Galz.

I have no idea what to make of this. You are to smart to assume both
a) it is actually a good idea for the real SJ to speak up
and
b) to assume that there is a single person on this player list rn that is more confident than not that Galz is actually SJ.

Also what am I missing here - Why would it be Town!Beneficial to send items to SJ randomly?

I believe Galzria in the absence of a counter claim, so I did assume others would as well. People have items they can't use, Galz needs items. Some people will send theirs to Galz.

And, as I've mentioned, I believe that those with items that I can use will be aware of it. If that's you, great. If it's not, then don't send me anything.

[Swowl]

Because player X (me) can claim for whatever reason they see a benefit of doing so based on the concept that:

A) There are likely town PR's that can protect me
B) Even if they don't choose to do so or do not exist, scum certainly doesn't have this knowledge, so shooting at me is a real risk for them.

Whereas a player Y (faust) here, claiming to BE a protective PR doesn't- and shouldn't - have the same faith that a DIFFERENT protective PR might exist to protect them.

Further, given who I am in particular, it's especially beneficial for town to know who I am.

Right and it makes perfect sense because you would never take this line as skum.

That's a moot point given my claim. You're comparing my claim (flavor) to faust's (role). No, I wouldn't make THIS claim as scum.

I’m not comparing anything. And you also claimed (at least parts) of a role - not just flavor.

I have not, no.

So you did not say that you have the ability to know items in the game that you can use...?

That is completely unrelated to my role. Items are a entirely different mechanic.

So at this point we are arguing to argue... but your ability to know the items in play you can use in the game is not an item (i guess unless it comes from an item) - it is part of your role

[EFHW]

faust's question earlier leads me to think there may be other role-targeted items currently in the hands of people who can't use them.

[LaLight]

Hey to everyone, vote: Hydrad

This seems pretty lazy and not massively well thought through.
vote: Lalight

Yeah, that was RVS and weekends - the time I'm not usually active in.

Anyway, I have no idea about the series, so I can't assume Galz is town even if he is Samurai Jack. I agree with faust here, would be too obvious to make titular character town and non-IC. Remembering a lot of games, say, Stranger Things, it is possible there isn't any Samurai Jack at all, as he is a fake claim and scum!galz can know that. so yeah.

But I also can't see town!faust claiming a lot of stuff without thinking it through, usually he's very careful doing that. Can he be a Jester? If ii made non-bastard change-of-alignment, he could do a Jester. or Mime. faust is just too obviously scummy.

I'd like to stay on Hydrad though. Something feels off with a Miller claim.

[faust]

But I also can't see town!faust claiming a lot of stuff without thinking it through, usually he's very careful doing that.

Why do you assume that I haven't thought it through?