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Author Topic: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (Game over - Town wins!)  (Read 117587 times)

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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #675 on: April 16, 2018, 12:36:50 am »

Fine with the lynch but wouldíve appreciated it not to be on the weekend when people donít generally go back and reread things.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #676 on: April 16, 2018, 08:16:11 am »

I don't mind weekends (I'm more likely to have free time at a weekend than during the week), but overnight deadlines, and waking up to a lynch that happened when it wasn't even a deadline(!) are difficult. Galz could maybe do a better job of explaining why that happened.

I still think Robz has a strong chance of flipping as some sort of scum. He's been super-evasive and barely contributed to scum-hunting at all except by retrospective explanation that some of his early wagon-jumping was meant to be provoking responses. I don't really get the motivation for mafia!Robz or SK!Robz to play it so close to the last game, but exactly the same can be said for town!Robz, and "playing for his next scum game" is not a meta I agree with. How long till we see the flip??
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Point iguana. Not that points really matter with a result, but still.
Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 08:31:32 am by iguanaiguana »
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Point iguana. Not that points really matter with a result, but still.
Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #679 on: April 18, 2018, 08:30:16 am »


And at the funeral the university
cried at three poems they'd present in place of a broken me.
I was breaking in a case of suds
at the brass rail, a fall-down drunk
[...]
and I knew that my last lines were gone
while stupidly I lingered on.
Other wise men know
when it's time to go and so I should too.

2.71828... has died in the night. He was John Allyn Smith, a drunk.

Remember when our so-called friend would not call out to you
while tumbling loosely out a hole punched through your home?

Day 3 Starts now!

Vote count 3.0

not voting (8): The_Wine_Merchant, DatSwan, SpaceAnemone, Galzria, Cuzz, EFHW, O, Gkrieg13

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 2 ends Wednesday, April 25 at 8:30am forum time.

Thread unlocked!
« Last Edit: April 18, 2018, 08:46:30 am by iguanaiguana »
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Point iguana. Not that points really matter with a result, but still.
Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #680 on: April 18, 2018, 10:02:24 am »

Thatís four letters. That means scum has some stronger powers.

Also the one night kill probably means that scum blocked SK or shot SK, so they probably know who the SK is. Which also means we are at MYLO
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #681 on: April 18, 2018, 10:08:41 am »

1. Robz Vanilla Town T
2. IDontPlayThisGame Vanilla Town T
3. McMcsalot Universal Backup L
4. e Drunk {PP or OO, less likely LLLL}
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12. Faust Tracker (not Will Sheff) O
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #682 on: April 18, 2018, 10:12:55 am »

Thatís four letters. That means scum has some stronger powers.

Also the one night kill probably means that scum blocked SK or shot SK, so they probably know who the SK is. Which also means we are at MYLO

I don't think 1 nk means scum know who the SK is. e could have targeted one nk target and also been the target for the other party, or just been targeted by both. Shooting the SK wouldn't have stopped the SK kill.

Daunting to know that 50% of "town" are actually not.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #683 on: April 18, 2018, 10:16:20 am »

Thatís four letters. That means scum has some stronger powers.

Also could be 3 letters (L and 2 O's).
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #684 on: April 18, 2018, 10:19:45 am »

Thatís four letters. That means scum has some stronger powers.

Also could be 3 letters (L and 2 O's).

The letter for the SK
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #685 on: April 18, 2018, 10:22:56 am »

Thatís four letters. That means scum has some stronger powers.

Also the one night kill probably means that scum blocked SK or shot SK, so they probably know who the SK is. Which also means we are at MYLO

I don't think 1 nk means scum know who the SK is. e could have targeted one nk target and also been the target for the other party, or just been targeted by both. Shooting the SK wouldn't have stopped the SK kill.

Daunting to know that 50% of "town" are actually not.

E being targeted by both kills is the only way that mafia donít know SK. If they shot the SK it doesnít block their kill, but it does block mafiaís kill (in the sense that SK is bulletproof
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #686 on: April 18, 2018, 10:23:44 am »

Iíll do rereads later this week probably.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #687 on: April 18, 2018, 11:11:06 am »

Thatís four letters. That means scum has some stronger powers.

Also the one night kill probably means that scum blocked SK or shot SK, so they probably know who the SK is. Which also means we are at MYLO

I don't think 1 nk means scum know who the SK is. e could have targeted one nk target and also been the target for the other party, or just been targeted by both. Shooting the SK wouldn't have stopped the SK kill.

Daunting to know that 50% of "town" are actually not.

E being targeted by both kills is the only way that mafia donít know SK. If they shot the SK it doesnít block their kill, but it does block mafiaís kill (in the sense that SK is bulletproof
Ok, that works.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #688 on: April 18, 2018, 11:13:52 am »


1. Robz Vanilla Town T
2. IDontPlayThisGame Vanilla Town T
3. McMcsalot Universal Backup L
4. e Drunk {PP or OO, less likely LLLL}
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12. Faust Tracker (not Will Sheff) O
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?? Unknown SK S
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #689 on: April 18, 2018, 11:15:43 am »

1. Robz Vanilla Town T
2. IDontPlayThisGame Vanilla Town T
3. McMcsalot Universal Backup L
4. e Drunk {PP or OO, less likely LLLL}
...
12. Faust Tracker (not Will Sheff) O or LL
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?? Unknown SK S
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #690 on: April 18, 2018, 11:42:13 am »

Is there some reason you two have discounted bulletproofer?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #691 on: April 18, 2018, 12:07:08 pm »

Is there some reason you two have discounted bulletproofer?
Nope.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #692 on: April 18, 2018, 12:58:25 pm »

I feel like we should not overthink this and just lynch Galz. Weíre kinda screwed anyway.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #693 on: April 18, 2018, 01:01:16 pm »

I feel like we should not overthink this and just lynch Galz. Weíre kinda screwed anyway.

Ok so Cuzz is town because scum would never plunge directly in like this.

Also, I do mostly agree.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #694 on: April 18, 2018, 01:10:58 pm »

Is there some reason you two have discounted bulletproofer?
Nope.

Nope.  I just think the other reasons are more likely.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #695 on: April 18, 2018, 01:12:12 pm »

I think it is probably time for a massclaim.  We have a chance to make the lynch pool smaller here.  I do agree with Cuzz.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #696 on: April 18, 2018, 01:13:30 pm »

oh wow Gkrieg and EHFW have had some terribley wrong analysis.

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1. Robz Vanilla Town T
2. IDontPlayThisGame Vanilla Town T

There isn't a 1:1 correspondence of rolls: roles. EG: GG = 1 Dayvig. So I'm pretty positive that you can't confirm a T role for each VT that flips

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E being targeted by both kills is the only way that mafia donít know SK. If they shot the SK it doesnít block their kill, but it does block mafiaís kill (in the sense that SK is bulletproof

Besides the bulletproofer I already mentioned, mafia seem to be pretttyyy likely to have a one shot rolestopper?

So a possible outcome is that mafia rolestopped the SK victim



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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #697 on: April 18, 2018, 01:14:40 pm »

I think it is probably time for a massclaim.  We have a chance to make the lynch pool smaller here.  I do agree with Cuzz.

I think we should not massclaim and actually lynch Gkrieg instead.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #698 on: April 18, 2018, 01:16:19 pm »

Maybe still lynch Galzria, but under no circumstances massclaim.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D3: Day of our So-Called Friend)
« Reply #699 on: April 18, 2018, 01:32:54 pm »

Agree with O about mass claim. Town with helpful information can decide when the nest time is to speak up.

What is another way someone could flip vt?
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