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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #550 on: April 11, 2018, 11:15:13 pm »

On the one hand....the wagon on IDP definitely had scum on it. Everyone who died was off-wagon.

Of course, that statement is extremely generic and means almost nothing at this point
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #551 on: April 11, 2018, 11:17:05 pm »

Also, I think DatSwan or Galz is scum. The way they belabored that lynch was scummy.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #552 on: April 11, 2018, 11:18:18 pm »

EFHW played it townie in my opinion. The prolonged agony of knowing they would mislynch town just seems faked.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #553 on: April 11, 2018, 11:19:20 pm »

Way Too Early Reads List:

1. Robz - scum. This is actually a read.
2. IDontPlayThisGame - town. If he is in fact playing this game
3. McMcsalot - town. Won't be on the same team as his brother
4. e - town.
5. The Wine Merchant - strong town read. He will basically have to claim scum and the rest of you lynch him. I am convinced he is town.
6. Datswan - town. Because I don't know Datswan as well as others
7. Spaceanemone - town. Playing the odds on this one. We only have 3 scum
8. Galzria - SK. Someone has to be. (I guess not technically. Ok, I read the setup)
9. Roadrunner - town. Dude is always town and no one gives him any credit for it.
10. EFHW - scum. EFHW is a tricky one to place. And I place her as scum
11. O - town. O joking about being scum is townie, Robz doing it is scummy. Perfectly clear logic
12. Faust - town. I hope.
13. Gkrieg - scum. Because I got to the bottom of the list and realized I needed another scum

Hmmmm. Robz/EFHW/Gkrieg scum team with Galzria SK. We have our work cut out for us, town. Or we just lynch the scum.

Also, 3/3. Should have trusted my reads.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #554 on: April 11, 2018, 11:20:33 pm »

Vote: Gkrieg

post reeks of pre-flip planning of wagon to push.

Gkriegs posts seemed pretty natural to me
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #555 on: April 11, 2018, 11:27:07 pm »

Yeah, vote: DatSwan
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #556 on: April 11, 2018, 11:33:11 pm »

DatSwan only recieved one vote all of D1 I believe. Some of the reason behind that is his scum partners had no reason whatsoever to vote for him. You find reasons to vote for town, then people do something (lurk, have an "implicating" post, etc) and you latch onto those 2 or 3 townies and make the day all about them. You can ignore your partners.

DatSwan was that scum partner that was ignored D1 (at least as far as voting goes)
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #557 on: April 12, 2018, 12:51:36 am »

DatSwan only recieved one vote all of D1 I believe. Some of the reason behind that is his scum partners had no reason whatsoever to vote for him. You find reasons to vote for town, then people do something (lurk, have an "implicating" post, etc) and you latch onto those 2 or 3 townies and make the day all about them. You can ignore your partners.

DatSwan was that scum partner that was ignored D1 (at least as far as voting goes)

You believe wrong ó you and gkrieg. Datswan is scummy though
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #559 on: April 12, 2018, 02:32:33 am »

Way Too Early Reads List:

1. Robz - scum. This is actually a read.
2. IDontPlayThisGame - town. If he is in fact playing this game
3. McMcsalot - town. Won't be on the same team as his brother
4. e - town.
5. The Wine Merchant - strong town read. He will basically have to claim scum and the rest of you lynch him. I am convinced he is town.
6. Datswan - town. Because I don't know Datswan as well as others
7. Spaceanemone - town. Playing the odds on this one. We only have 3 scum
8. Galzria - SK. Someone has to be. (I guess not technically. Ok, I read the setup)
9. Roadrunner - town. Dude is always town and no one gives him any credit for it.
10. EFHW - scum. EFHW is a tricky one to place. And I place her as scum
11. O - town. O joking about being scum is townie, Robz doing it is scummy. Perfectly clear logic
12. Faust - town. I hope.
13. Gkrieg - scum. Because I got to the bottom of the list and realized I needed another scum

Hmmmm. Robz/EFHW/Gkrieg scum team with Galzria SK. We have our work cut out for us, town. Or we just lynch the scum.

Also, 3/3. Should have trusted my reads.

Last time i checked knowing who is Town is a skum trait.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #560 on: April 12, 2018, 07:18:54 am »


I am all out of love to mouth into your ear
And not above letting a love song disappear
Before it is written.

Vote count 2.1
O (1): gkrieg13
gkrieg13 (1): O
DatSwan (1): 2.71828...
2.71828... (1): DatSwan

not voting (6): Robz888, The_Wine_Merchant, SpaceAnemone, Galzria, Cuzz, EFHW

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 2 ends Wednesday, April 18 at 9pm forum time.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #561 on: April 12, 2018, 07:48:06 am »

So I assume SK because that would have been a terrible vig shot. Shooting either one of them

I thought you admitted to having read the setup? If we have vigs, they're DayVigs, not standard ones. This is a schadd setup, after all...

I would scumread you for the possibly-staged "look how much I don't know what's going on" thing, and for encouraging others to think about SK-hunting, except that gkrieg made a similar comment towards the end of D1 that stuck in my mind a bit, too.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #562 on: April 12, 2018, 07:59:34 am »

Ah, my previous post makes more sense when I say I totally townread gkrieg, mainly just for not having tried to lynch me yet. He has a really long track record of being head of the "let's lynch Space" drive as either alignment. It would make a lot of sense for him to emulate that behaviour as scum, rather than to risk a townread on me.

I'll get to filling out the rest of my re-reads table sometime in the next few days. I still have to actually re-read gkrieg, but there are a few others I have virtually no informed opinion on right now, like O and Cuzz.

Sorry if the reads format in the code table was a pain for small devices to scroll through! My intention was to keep it in a tidy little box rather that eating up thread space, but I hate trying to make sense of a game on a phone screen, so I'm mostly imagining other people seeing it on screens like mine. My bad :-(
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #563 on: April 12, 2018, 08:03:17 am »

I believe that is three letters accounted for though.

I think a single "O" and a single "L" are more likely, but I don't have time to re-run my probabilities this lunch break.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #564 on: April 12, 2018, 08:08:00 am »

I believe that is three letters accounted for though.

I think a single "O" and a single "L" are more likely, but I don't have time to re-run my probabilities this lunch break.

Ah, wait, I'm being sloppy! I saw that "UB+Tracker" can come about in multiple ways, and accounted for the flips without remembering that we also have to account for the existence of the SK whose existence made there be a second flip in the first place. Definitely need lunch and coffee!
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #565 on: April 12, 2018, 08:12:52 am »

EFHW played it townie in my opinion. The prolonged agony of knowing they would mislynch town just seems faked.
I'm townie?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #566 on: April 12, 2018, 09:28:45 am »

Way Too Early Reads List:

1. Robz - scum. This is actually a read.
2. IDontPlayThisGame - town. If he is in fact playing this game
3. McMcsalot - town. Won't be on the same team as his brother
4. e - town.
5. The Wine Merchant - strong town read. He will basically have to claim scum and the rest of you lynch him. I am convinced he is town.
6. Datswan - town. Because I don't know Datswan as well as others
7. Spaceanemone - town. Playing the odds on this one. We only have 3 scum
8. Galzria - SK. Someone has to be. (I guess not technically. Ok, I read the setup)
9. Roadrunner - town. Dude is always town and no one gives him any credit for it.
10. EFHW - scum. EFHW is a tricky one to place. And I place her as scum
11. O - town. O joking about being scum is townie, Robz doing it is scummy. Perfectly clear logic
12. Faust - town. I hope.
13. Gkrieg - scum. Because I got to the bottom of the list and realized I needed another scum

Hmmmm. Robz/EFHW/Gkrieg scum team with Galzria SK. We have our work cut out for us, town. Or we just lynch the scum.

Also, 3/3. Should have trusted my reads.

Last time i checked knowing who is Town is a skum trait.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #567 on: April 12, 2018, 09:59:32 am »

EFHW played it townie in my opinion. The prolonged agony of knowing they would mislynch town just seems faked.
I'm townie?

I thought how you played at the end of D1 was townie, especially in comparison to DatSwan
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #568 on: April 12, 2018, 10:37:08 am »

right, so apologies for my profound uselessness. this is my first time replacing into a game and I'm doing it badly because I thought I had to read 18 pages of content before contributing and I'm realizing that that's not going to happen. so I'm gonna just reread O because I think this maybe seems like scum O.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #569 on: April 12, 2018, 10:40:12 am »

EFHW played it townie in my opinion. The prolonged agony of knowing they would mislynch town just seems faked.
I'm townie?

I thought how you played at the end of D1 was townie, especially in comparison to DatSwan
So it was Datswan's agony that seemed fake?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #570 on: April 12, 2018, 10:42:06 am »

Way Too Early Reads List:

1. Robz - scum. This is actually a read.
2. IDontPlayThisGame - town. If he is in fact playing this game
3. McMcsalot - town. Won't be on the same team as his brother
4. e - town.
5. The Wine Merchant - strong town read. He will basically have to claim scum and the rest of you lynch him. I am convinced he is town.
6. Datswan - town. Because I don't know Datswan as well as others
7. Spaceanemone - town. Playing the odds on this one. We only have 3 scum
8. Galzria - SK. Someone has to be. (I guess not technically. Ok, I read the setup)
9. Roadrunner - town. Dude is always town and no one gives him any credit for it.
10. EFHW - scum. EFHW is a tricky one to place. And I place her as scum
11. O - town. O joking about being scum is townie, Robz doing it is scummy. Perfectly clear logic
12. Faust - town. I hope.
13. Gkrieg - scum. Because I got to the bottom of the list and realized I needed another scum

Hmmmm. Robz/EFHW/Gkrieg scum team with Galzria SK. We have our work cut out for us, town. Or we just lynch the scum.

Also, 3/3. Should have trusted my reads.

Last time i checked knowing who is Town is a skum trait.
Vote: 2.7

this is an awful, awful scummy vote from DatSwan
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #571 on: April 12, 2018, 10:46:24 am »

EFHW played it townie in my opinion. The prolonged agony of knowing they would mislynch town just seems faked.
I'm townie?

I thought how you played at the end of D1 was townie, especially in comparison to DatSwan
So it was Datswan's agony that seemed fake?

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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #572 on: April 12, 2018, 10:51:26 am »

EFHW played it townie in my opinion. The prolonged agony of knowing they would mislynch town just seems faked.
I'm townie?

I thought how you played at the end of D1 was townie, especially in comparison to DatSwan
So it was Datswan's agony that seemed fake?
Datswan tried pretty hard to get a different lynch. That didn't seem fake to me. Galzria's refusal to vote IDPTG was a surprise because we needed a lynch and there were maybe 5 minutes left. IDPTG was a terrible lynch. I looked back to try to see how it happened, and several people tried to get other wagons to work - there was the wagon on me, and the one on Robz. I'll try to do a blow-by-blow, see if it yields any insights.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D2: [Day One Plus Ones])
« Reply #573 on: April 12, 2018, 11:08:29 am »

Galz was right about IDP as it turned out, but I don't know, I sort of feel like he was doing the whole "look at me, being against this lynch, town laments, ahhh" thing that scum can do confidently because they know who is scum and who is town. So I am scum reading Galz.

I am also scum reading O, way way more than I am scumreading gkrieg.

TWM and Space feel townie. Cuzz being hopelessly out of it seems more townie than scummy.

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