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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #400 on: April 09, 2018, 01:22:19 pm »

Let’s take a good chance on this one and lynch Galz. Is anyone on board with that?

Vote: Galz

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Galzria is a terrible lynch.

Why?
Because he's a strong player that for some reason still usually gets a lot of heat on early days. It is the dream mislynch for scum. I would much rather evaluate Galzria's play in 2 days time if he's still alive by then.

Does this not apply at all to me?
Well for me personally you just don't look as scary. It's entirely possible that that's just my bias because Galrzia was here way before I started and I still remember your first games.

Also I don't feel like you are a particularly popular target for D1 wagons. Am I wrong?

I pretty consistently get D1 wagons.

But also you don't think I'm a good mislynch for scum D1?  It is pretty well-known that I shine a lot more in later days than I do D1.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #401 on: April 09, 2018, 01:24:06 pm »

I thought IDPTG's first defense was townie, but then he wasn't giving a townie defense of himself in the second part of his post.  Are you saying that I'm scummy for changing my mind?
Idplay has not defended himself in between the post where you called him scummy townie and the post where you voted for him, so what are you talking about?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #402 on: April 09, 2018, 01:52:52 pm »

Gkrieg is an incredibly popular Day 1 lynch. We should wait to consider lynching him in part because mcmc is a freaking expert at eventually telling us whether gkrieg is scum.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #403 on: April 09, 2018, 02:09:42 pm »

I thought IDPTG's first defense was townie, but then he wasn't giving a townie defense of himself in the second part of his post.  Are you saying that I'm scummy for changing my mind?
Idplay has not defended himself in between the post where you called him scummy townie and the post where you voted for him, so what are you talking about?
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Please excuse me for being concerned that scum have been picking up easy, consequence-free mislynches. I forgot random lynching is the best way to win this game.

He posted this, which I thought was scummy, and is defending himself.  He has two other posts between this and when I thought he was townie, that I also thought were scummy.  He is being hyperdefensive in a scummy way.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #404 on: April 09, 2018, 02:10:28 pm »

Gkrieg is an incredibly popular Day 1 lynch. We should wait to consider lynching him in part because mcmc is a freaking expert at eventually telling us whether gkrieg is scum.

I feel like you are trying to pre-frame me for when mcmc dies tonight.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #405 on: April 09, 2018, 02:11:01 pm »

Gkrieg is an incredibly popular Day 1 lynch. We should wait to consider lynching him in part because mcmc is a freaking expert at eventually telling us whether gkrieg is scum.

I feel like you are trying to pre-frame me for when mcmc dies tonight.

Mwahahaha.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #406 on: April 09, 2018, 02:20:24 pm »

So, 6.5 hours to lynch.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #407 on: April 09, 2018, 02:42:19 pm »

So why should I vote for e?
To pull an awaclus again, why shouldn't you vote for e?

But to actually answer your question:

The first thing that made me want to vote for him was #264 for his O vote and his comment about Robz. Which made me look at him more and realize that I hadn't really remembered anything from him and am having a hard time keeping track of him.

After that I thought his response to my vote was interesting. I didn't provide reasons, and still haven't until now. But he has never been interested in why. I feel like town wants to know why but scum often just ignores it passively and hopes the reasons don't get brought up.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #408 on: April 09, 2018, 02:44:01 pm »

I had not seen anyone express any interest in gkrieg lynch.

Multiple people have said 2.7 but no one had started it.

Feel the two situations are different.
Why not Robz?
Why are you specifically asking about Robz? I haven't been interested in a Robz lynch and seen only passing interest from others. I am not going to create a wagon on someone that I don't want to vote for.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #409 on: April 09, 2018, 02:45:27 pm »

I had not seen anyone express any interest in gkrieg lynch.

Multiple people have said 2.7 but no one had started it.

Feel the two situations are different.

faust and I both said gkrieg and e.

In passing in a list of potential D1 lynches. You were never like, "let's lynch e" directly as TWM has done twice now
What I mean is that his reasons for choosing you also apply to gkrieg. More, since faust had actually voted gkrieg.
No they don't. I have had previous suspicion of 2.7. Not of gkrieg or Robz.

I voted for 2.7 because interest expressed by others coupled with my own previous suspicions. But no one appears to want to join me here? Even those who said they would consider it?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #410 on: April 09, 2018, 02:46:12 pm »

Gkrieg is an incredibly popular Day 1 lynch. We should wait to consider lynching him in part because mcmc is a freaking expert at eventually telling us whether gkrieg is scum.
And we should trust mcmc because?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #411 on: April 09, 2018, 02:48:35 pm »

And vote: IDPTG but I should be back again in a few and then back again before deadline.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #412 on: April 09, 2018, 02:57:30 pm »

Request prod on Galzria
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #413 on: April 09, 2018, 02:58:33 pm »

I don't like any of our waons. Can we please start some other wagon? It doesn't have to be gkrieg; I'm flexible. But I'm not around for much longer.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #414 on: April 09, 2018, 03:01:07 pm »

I don't like any of our waons. Can we please start some other wagon? It doesn't have to be gkrieg; I'm flexible. But I'm not around for much longer.

I could lynch space if that interests you.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #415 on: April 09, 2018, 03:11:41 pm »

I don't like any of our waons. Can we please start some other wagon? It doesn't have to be gkrieg; I'm flexible. But I'm not around for much longer.

Want to address anything that I said above?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #416 on: April 09, 2018, 03:48:54 pm »

I don't like any of our waons. Can we please start some other wagon? It doesn't have to be gkrieg; I'm flexible. But I'm not around for much longer.

Want to address anything that I said above?
Well you're right and I'm not particularly interested in your lynch anymore.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #417 on: April 09, 2018, 03:49:46 pm »

I don't like any of our waons. Can we please start some other wagon? It doesn't have to be gkrieg; I'm flexible. But I'm not around for much longer.

I could lynch space if that interests you.
Can do.

Vote: Space
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #418 on: April 09, 2018, 04:08:11 pm »

Request prod on Galzria

I'm here, and will be until deadline. Monday's are good deadline days for me. I'll start to have some thoughts out there soon.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #419 on: April 09, 2018, 04:11:41 pm »

Request prod on Galzria

I'm here, and will be until deadline. Monday's are good deadline days for me. I'll start to have some thoughts out there soon.
Well I'm afraid I can't do anything with them anymore because I will go to bed now.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #420 on: April 09, 2018, 04:11:46 pm »

Vote: Space

I will be around until the deadline and will assist with a suboptimal lynch if required.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #421 on: April 09, 2018, 04:18:44 pm »

I don't like any of our waons. Can we please start some other wagon? It doesn't have to be gkrieg; I'm flexible. But I'm not around for much longer.

I don't like any of our waons. Can we please start some other wagon? It doesn't have to be gkrieg; I'm flexible. But I'm not around for much longer.

Want to address anything that I said above?
Well you're right and I'm not particularly interested in your lynch anymore.

These are the weirdest quotes from faust.  It shows that he either isn't interested in my posts, or skipped over them on accident.  The first would be scummy because he is putting out a case on me that I refute, and he doesn't even care what I have to say, which is weird from anyone, but especially from him.  The second obviously happens.

It is very strange behavior from faust, seeing as he is generally very rational, and how much he was behind my wagon until no one joined him. 

He is also choosing to park his vote on a wagon that is unlikely to go through, right before the deadline.  He is essentially voting no lynch, which is super scummy.  Especially considering he was one of the early people on the IDPTG wagon.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #422 on: April 09, 2018, 04:19:18 pm »

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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #423 on: April 09, 2018, 04:22:33 pm »

I don't like any of our waons. Can we please start some other wagon? It doesn't have to be gkrieg; I'm flexible. But I'm not around for much longer.

I don't like any of our waons. Can we please start some other wagon? It doesn't have to be gkrieg; I'm flexible. But I'm not around for much longer.

Want to address anything that I said above?
Well you're right and I'm not particularly interested in your lynch anymore.

These are the weirdest quotes from faust.  It shows that he either isn't interested in my posts, or skipped over them on accident.  The first would be scummy because he is putting out a case on me that I refute, and he doesn't even care what I have to say, which is weird from anyone, but especially from him.  The second obviously happens.

It is very strange behavior from faust, seeing as he is generally very rational, and how much he was behind my wagon until no one joined him. 

He is also choosing to park his vote on a wagon that is unlikely to go through, right before the deadline.  He is essentially voting no lynch, which is super scummy.  Especially considering he was one of the early people on the IDPTG wagon.
You thought you could start your smear campaign now that I'm gone, but I am still here. Ha! I am limited on time, so sorry for not responding in my usual slpendor. I am not scummy for Idplay, I have stated repeatedly that I think he's townie now.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #424 on: April 09, 2018, 04:23:00 pm »

No real wagons at this poin means skum is comfy. I am removing cuzz from the equation for now bc no content.

Single vote candidates should present a list of players that create a good skum Pool: that would be Faust, Galz, mcmc, and space.

I want to lynch here - anyone else feeling that vibe?
I don't agree with this reasoning.  Town needs to start consolidating votes, but I don't think people with just one vote are more likely to be scum.

Starting here:

Datswan is absolutely wrong. Spread votes with no dominating wagons is horrible for scum as they have no sense of how best to control the town and thus are much less able dictate (and thus most likely to become) the end of day vote. Scum, when lynched D1, is almost always the result of a scramble to consensus, and never because they've been accumulating votes throughout the day.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20
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