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Author Topic: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (Game over - Town wins!)  (Read 142402 times)

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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #350 on: April 08, 2018, 07:13:47 pm »

That said, vote: gkrieg

?  Are you saying that I'm not participating in the game?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #351 on: April 08, 2018, 07:14:41 pm »

Wait, so hold on. I'm supposed to leave my vote when the wagon forms? Wow. This game is confusing. Because you already listed me not moving my vote as part of your case against me.
You're supposed to participate in the game. I still don't know any of what you think about the game except that you scumread Robz, and that I have only learned after pressuring you.
It is not great town play to leave your RVS vote up once a number of serious votes have been made.

It also isn't very good scum play though.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #352 on: April 08, 2018, 07:37:22 pm »

Celebrating, will catch up.

This too :-) It was my birthday today (well, yesterday in my own timezone now, but still today forum time!), and while I've read the thread, I'm too sleepy to go from reading words to forming opinions. I have booked the morning off work to recover from a busy weekend, though!
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #353 on: April 08, 2018, 07:43:28 pm »

The day is actually drawing very quickly to an end. We need a real wagon. Willing to listen to cases that I like

Faust and Galz are normally both far more aggressive when aligned with Town.

Robz saying I am an ok lynch after only nonsense reasons have been posted is skummy. I get that you are the one posting those nonsense reasons, but as I don't think you are skum I am going to hope you are aware of that.

I'll get back to you if I find more.
Why don't you think Robz is scum?

re read post please. States that I find Robz Skummy. Or are you asking why he was separated from the Faust/Galz list?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #354 on: April 08, 2018, 07:43:58 pm »

Celebrating, will catch up.

This too :-) It was my birthday today (well, yesterday in my own timezone now, but still today forum time!), and while I've read the thread, I'm too sleepy to go from reading words to forming opinions. I have booked the morning off work to recover from a busy weekend, though!

HBD!
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #355 on: April 08, 2018, 07:46:54 pm »

@Robz

Why did you only scrounge up three reads in a Won't Lynch: Could Lynch: Want to Lynch format? isn't that a little too precise?

It feels like scum marking off the check boxes of "reads in each category" and then stopping there because committing more reads is worse as scum than as town.

Those seemed relevant to the current conversation and I didn’t have other thoughts to share. I generally try not to say things unless I actually have something to say. Clutter is anti town.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #356 on: April 08, 2018, 07:49:18 pm »

Celebrating, will catch up.

This too :-) It was my birthday today (well, yesterday in my own timezone now, but still today forum time!), and while I've read the thread, I'm too sleepy to go from reading words to forming opinions. I have booked the morning off work to recover from a busy weekend, though!

Happy Birthday Space!
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #357 on: April 08, 2018, 07:49:32 pm »

Celebrating, will catch up.

This too :-) It was my birthday today (well, yesterday in my own timezone now, but still today forum time!), and while I've read the thread, I'm too sleepy to go from reading words to forming opinions. I have booked the morning off work to recover from a busy weekend, though!

Happy Birthday Space!
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #358 on: April 08, 2018, 09:48:43 pm »

The day is actually drawing very quickly to an end. We need a real wagon. Willing to listen to cases that I like

Faust and Galz are normally both far more aggressive when aligned with Town.

Robz saying I am an ok lynch after only nonsense reasons have been posted is skummy. I get that you are the one posting those nonsense reasons, but as I don't think you are skum I am going to hope you are aware of that.

I'll get back to you if I find more.
Why don't you think Robz is scum?

re read post please. States that I find Robz Skummy. Or are you asking why he was separated from the Faust/Galz list?
Oh, I see, the "you" was e.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #359 on: April 08, 2018, 10:17:00 pm »


Oh, I'll be your fighter and you'll be my mirror.
And you'll be all right because I'll be right here.
Oh kid, now I'm not going anywhere.
I swear I'll try to not be going anywhere.

Vote count 1.9

faust (1): DatSwan
Robz888 (3): IDontPlayThisGame, EFHW, O
McMcsalot (1): Galzria
EFHW (2): mcmcsalot, SpaceAnemone
IDontPlayThisGame (4): Robz888, The_Wine_Merchant, 2.71828..., gkrieg13
gkrieg13 (1): faust

not voting (1): Cuzz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends Monday, April 9 at 9pm forum time. 23 hr!!!!

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« Last Edit: April 09, 2018, 11:38:32 am by iguanaiguana »
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #360 on: April 08, 2018, 10:47:19 pm »

@Robz

Why did you only scrounge up three reads in a Won't Lynch: Could Lynch: Want to Lynch format? isn't that a little too precise?

It feels like scum marking off the check boxes of "reads in each category" and then stopping there because committing more reads is worse as scum than as town.

Those seemed relevant to the current conversation and I didn’t have other thoughts to share. I generally try not to say things unless I actually have something to say. Clutter is anti town.

Seems townish from Robz, and I completely disagree with Os last part of his post. Not sure if that’s scummy from O though.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #361 on: April 08, 2018, 10:53:11 pm »

That said, vote: gkrieg
I don't think this vote was counted.

I also don't see the purpose of it at this point in the game.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #362 on: April 08, 2018, 11:06:03 pm »


Oh, I'll be your fighter and you'll be my mirror.
And you'll be all right because I'll be right here.
Oh kid, now I'm not going anywhere.
I swear I'll try to not be going anywhere.

Vote count 1.9.Oups

faust (1): DatSwan
Robz888 (3): IDontPlayThisGame, EFHW, O
McMcsalot (1): Galzria
EFHW (2): mcmcsalot, SpaceAnemone
IDontPlayThisGame (4): Robz888, The_Wine_Merchant, 2.71828..., gkrieg13
gkrieg13 (1): faust

not voting (1): Cuzz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends Monday, April 9 at 9pm forum time. 22 hr!!!!

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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #363 on: April 09, 2018, 12:39:50 am »

I think right now I'm on the edge with Galzria, TWM, and Datswan.  As in, I think they are scummy, in that I don't think they have done anything townie.
But Idplay has?

I thought his defense was townie in that he tried to defend himself, instead of just fading into the background.

This is where gkrieg thinks Idplay is town. Then apparently Idplay posts scummy things, and gkrieg changes his mind. These are the posts in question:

I am seriously confused by the amount of defense Idplay is getting for showing the tiniest amount of work. But some of those defending him have to be town... I don't get at all how you could feel so strongly about Idplay.

I saw Gkrieg's one, which basically echos what I think, which is that IDP is freakily invisible because of the lack of avatar.

Is my lack of avatar really that big of a deal? You can just say you don't remember me. I won't be insulted.

Please excuse me for being concerned that scum have been picking up easy, consequence-free mislynches. I forgot random lynching is the best way to win this game.

I get the rabbit hole this goes down, but can we please either acknowledge that lurker lynches are more policy driven than success driven or make an argument that scum has been lurking?

gkrieg, can you elaborate on how they are scummy?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #364 on: April 09, 2018, 12:45:41 am »

That said, vote: gkrieg

Faust trying to distract from the IDPTG wagon.

Noted.
Yes I am. I think Idplay has been townie recently, so I'm not too interested in that lynch anymore.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #365 on: April 09, 2018, 03:21:24 am »

No real wagons at this poin means skum is comfy. I am removing cuzz from the equation for now bc no content.

Single vote candidates should present a list of players that create a good skum Pool: that would be Faust, Galz, mcmc, and space.

I want to lynch here - anyone else feeling that vibe?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #366 on: April 09, 2018, 03:28:41 am »

also this is how skum!galz would play this in a situation where there are a lot of town wagons. They would disappear. I have played games with him where they randomly claim Vt (twice) games where they call out over confident players (normally ends up being Faust but whatever that point aside), games where they fake claim PRs. All of which are Town flips.

Let’s take a good chance on this one and lynch Galz. Is anyone on board with that?

Vote: Galz
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #367 on: April 09, 2018, 03:31:18 am »

Single vote candidates should present a list of players that create a good skum Pool: that would be Faust, Galz, mcmc, and space.
Here is a list of players that would make decent lynches:

gkrieg, e, EFHW, Space, Cuzz
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #368 on: April 09, 2018, 03:34:24 am »

Single vote candidates should present a list of players that create a good skum Pool: that would be Faust, Galz, mcmc, and space.
Here is a list of players that would make decent lynches:

gkrieg, e, EFHW, Space, Cuzz
I forgot the reason why I don't want to lynch EFHW. She still rubs me the wrong way, and she has more than one vote, so I guess I'm keeping her in this pool.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #369 on: April 09, 2018, 03:34:42 am »

Let’s take a good chance on this one and lynch Galz. Is anyone on board with that?

Vote: Galz

I still think
Galzria is a terrible lynch.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #370 on: April 09, 2018, 03:50:55 am »

Let’s take a good chance on this one and lynch Galz. Is anyone on board with that?

Vote: Galz

I still think
Galzria is a terrible lynch.

Why?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #371 on: April 09, 2018, 04:07:07 am »

Also why is cuzz on your list? What is it  they  said that is  skummy to you
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #372 on: April 09, 2018, 04:08:12 am »

EFHW - other than your current - who is skummy to you?
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #373 on: April 09, 2018, 04:12:31 am »

Also why is cuzz on your list? What is it  they  said that is  skummy to you
He hasn't done anything townie, and there is more pressure to replace an absent scum than an absent town.
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Re: M115: Okkervil River Mafia (D1 Down the Deep River)
« Reply #374 on: April 09, 2018, 04:15:25 am »

Let’s take a good chance on this one and lynch Galz. Is anyone on board with that?

Vote: Galz

I still think
Galzria is a terrible lynch.

Why?
Because he's a strong player that for some reason still usually gets a lot of heat on early days. It is the dream mislynch for scum. I would much rather evaluate Galzria's play in 2 days time if he's still alive by then.
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