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[faust]

I think we have the opportunity to let another data point or two accumulate on space before deciding on him. And I don't think it says anything about space regardless.

A fake result can easily be done on a townie. I did it as a cop on gkrieg.

Too bad you killed the watcher...

I killed the watcher?

Apparently PPS has two investigative roles!

[iguanaiguana]

Cool I got us talking, like how McMc wanted.

We prolly shouldn't lynch the guy who softclaimed a PR today.

Unvote

Dunno who to vote for right now.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Cool I got us talking, like how McMc wanted.

Who?

[iguanaiguana]

McLurksAlot - the guy who criticized me D1 for not posting enough.

[iguanaiguana]

Is anyone else feeling this PPS gambit though? Regardless of if we should vote for him, I would like to hear comments on the theory.

[faust]

Is anyone else feeling this PPS gambit though? Regardless of if we should vote for him, I would like to hear comments on the theory.

Making weird unnecessary claims is definitely a scum!PPS trait.

[pingpongsam]

I think we have the opportunity to let another data point or two accumulate on space before deciding on him. And I don't think it says anything about space regardless.

A fake result can easily be done on a townie. I did it as a cop on gkrieg.

Too bad you killed the watcher...

I killed the watcher?

Apparently PPS has two investigative roles!

Yeah, I goofed. Galz was the watcher not Clemens.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Is anyone else feeling this PPS gambit though? Regardless of if we should vote for him, I would like to hear comments on the theory.

Very possible. And even plausible. But again, more data points will likely come through at a later time.

[pingpongsam]

Is anyone else feeling this PPS gambit though? Regardless of if we should vote for him, I would like to hear comments on the theory.

Making weird unnecessary claims is definitely a scum!PPS trait.

Killing the investigators is definitely a f.ds trait. I recall being a SK Cop, getting a scum result, claiming it, getting killed for claiming the result (not for being sk), and the scum surviving the game. schadd is mistaken in thinking good decisions give good results.

Maybe, a batter indictment would be actually using and claiming investigative powers is a scum!PPS trait because town!PPS would know better and never actually use his power in order to stay alive.

[faust]

Is anyone else feeling this PPS gambit though? Regardless of if we should vote for him, I would like to hear comments on the theory.

Making weird unnecessary claims is definitely a scum!PPS trait.

Killing the investigators is definitely a f.ds trait. I recall being a SK Cop, getting a scum result, claiming it, getting killed for claiming the result (not for being sk), and the scum surviving the game. schadd is mistaken in thinking good decisions give good results.

Maybe, a batter indictment would be actually using and claiming investigative powers is a scum!PPS trait because town!PPS would know better and never actually use his power in order to stay alive.

I'm not sure a story in which scum!you got lynched is the best illustration for f.ds killing investigative roles too much...

Also, why does town!PPS care about staying alive?

[iguanaiguana]

Is anyone else feeling this PPS gambit though? Regardless of if we should vote for him, I would like to hear comments on the theory.

Making weird unnecessary claims is definitely a scum!PPS trait.

I recall being a SK Cop, getting a scum result, claiming it, getting killed for claiming the result (not for being sk), and the scum surviving the game.

That was my first game!

[iguanaiguana]

Is anyone else feeling this PPS gambit though? Regardless of if we should vote for him, I would like to hear comments on the theory.

Making weird unnecessary claims is definitely a scum!PPS trait.

I recall being a SK Cop, getting a scum result, claiming it, getting killed for claiming the result (not for being sk), and the scum surviving the game.

That was my first game!

You got killed because people asked you to claim your role and spent like 3 IRL days hedging on what your role would be, then when you claimed it, and it was sorta absurd sounding.

[faust]

Is anyone else feeling this PPS gambit though? Regardless of if we should vote for him, I would like to hear comments on the theory.

Making weird unnecessary claims is definitely a scum!PPS trait.

I recall being a SK Cop, getting a scum result, claiming it, getting killed for claiming the result (not for being sk), and the scum surviving the game.

That was my first game!

You got killed because people asked you to claim your role and spent like 3 IRL days hedging on what your role would be, then when you claimed it, and it was sorta absurd sounding.

Also the claimed role was straight up impossible given the setup.

[pingpongsam]

Well, all your memories are clearly better than mine. That's how I remembered it, anyhow and I'm not arsed to double check. At any rate, the intent today was simply sarcasm (specifically the bit about town!pps wanting to stay alive and thus refusing to use his role).

[pingpongsam]

Is anyone else feeling this PPS gambit though? Regardless of if we should vote for him, I would like to hear comments on the theory.

Making weird unnecessary claims is definitely a scum!PPS trait.

I recall being a SK Cop, getting a scum result, claiming it, getting killed for claiming the result (not for being sk), and the scum surviving the game.

That was my first game!

You got killed because people asked you to claim your role and spent like 3 IRL days hedging on what your role would be, then when you claimed it, and it was sorta absurd sounding.

Also the claimed role was straight up impossible given the setup.

That seems odd to me because I was actually a cop. I just also happened to be a sk, so I'm not sure why I would not have just claimed town cop instead of sk cop. I think there may be some confusion about what game we are referring to. I know it was Jimmmmm I had the result on and he lived to the end.

[pingpongsam]

Is anyone else feeling this PPS gambit though? Regardless of if we should vote for him, I would like to hear comments on the theory.

Making weird unnecessary claims is definitely a scum!PPS trait.

I recall being a SK Cop, getting a scum result, claiming it, getting killed for claiming the result (not for being sk), and the scum surviving the game.

That was my first game!

You got killed because people asked you to claim your role and spent like 3 IRL days hedging on what your role would be, then when you claimed it, and it was sorta absurd sounding.

Also the claimed role was straight up impossible given the setup.

That seems odd to me because I was actually a cop. I just also happened to be a sk, so I'm not sure why I would not have just claimed town cop instead of sk cop. I think there may be some confusion about what game we are referring to. I know it was Jimmmmm I had the result on and he lived to the end.

Maybe not the best example because i was actually scum, but I was not Mafia. The depressing bit was that when my flip proved I had no reason to lie no action was taken about the claim anyhow. In short, I have not seen how copping roles are useful to date. Of course, I've gotten nailed by watchers/trackers and their results are always game changing and accepted without question which was my point about having killed that role in this game already.

[faust]

Is anyone else feeling this PPS gambit though? Regardless of if we should vote for him, I would like to hear comments on the theory.

Making weird unnecessary claims is definitely a scum!PPS trait.

I recall being a SK Cop, getting a scum result, claiming it, getting killed for claiming the result (not for being sk), and the scum surviving the game.

That was my first game!

You got killed because people asked you to claim your role and spent like 3 IRL days hedging on what your role would be, then when you claimed it, and it was sorta absurd sounding.

Also the claimed role was straight up impossible given the setup.

That seems odd to me because I was actually a cop. I just also happened to be a sk, so I'm not sure why I would not have just claimed town cop instead of sk cop. I think there may be some confusion about what game we are referring to. I know it was Jimmmmm I had the result on and he lived to the end.

I assumed you were talking about this:

I will say that I am a cop. My results are straight up alignment tells. I have another role that is not quite so awesome and I have modifiers on both of those roles but I have no interest in explaining what they are because scum could easily exploit them.

So you have two roles and two modifiers?

Yes. I have two roles and each has a modifier attached to it. Revealing either modifier makes either role exploitable. I see no good reason to claim the other role at this time. I will say I have not exercised the other role power because the modifier to it has prevented me from doing so up to this point.

Each player will receive a role from the list below. Each players' role will be modified by two role modifiers listed below.

PPS is caught in a fakeclaim.

Vote: pingpongsam

[pingpongsam]

I've fakeclaimed in the past. Gotten caught. Made scumslips, gotten caught.

So, since I've made a claim today I must also be fakeclaiming, scumslipping, scum today?

That is pretty much the premise for your case.

[faust]

I've fakeclaimed in the past. Gotten caught. Made scumslips, gotten caught.

So, since I've made a claim today I must also be fakeclaiming, scumslipping, scum today?

That is pretty much the premise for your case.

Better than your case on me!

[pingpongsam]

BTW, I was wrong. Jimmmm did get lynched afterall.... by you... who made sure to lynch me... while you were also scum.

[pingpongsam]

I've fakeclaimed in the past. Gotten caught. Made scumslips, gotten caught.

So, since I've made a claim today I must also be fakeclaiming, scumslipping, scum today?

That is pretty much the premise for your case.

Better than your case on me!

My case is actually relevant to your behavior in this game we are playing now.

[mcmcsalot]

Sorry been super busy.

[iguanaiguana]

I've fakeclaimed in the past. Gotten caught. Made scumslips, gotten caught.

So, since I've made a claim today I must also be fakeclaiming, scumslipping, scum today?

That is pretty much the premise for your case.

Better than your case on me!

Nah, his case on you is pretty good. Your defense is like, no way am I scummy for trying to lynch all those towns.

[Teproc]

Sorry been super busy.

Same. WIll try to get to this tonight.

[Cuzz]

Sorry been super busy.

Same. WIll try to get to this tonight.

ditto. first plan is to reread faust thoroughly, because he's been saying a lot lately that I've been just able to skim. he feels scummy and I dig some of the points made against him, but for someone with minimal heat on him D1 the wagon D2 took off so quick it might be scum driven, as though scum decided against NKing town!faust and instead planned to pile on out of the gate to try to get him lynched D2.