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[mcmcsalot]

On the other hand, this series of posts has been scummier than what DatSwan did.

Vote: Cuzz

Dissagree vote: datswan

[faust]

On the other hand, this series of posts has been scummier than what DatSwan did.

Vote: Cuzz

Cool! Care to show your work for the rest of the class?

Sure. We have a post discussing the scumminess of DatSwan without a vote, immediately followed by a post about how people voting for DatSwan are scummy sheepers. There you gave the reason why you didn't vote for DatSwan! Amazing stuff.

And then comes a pointless reads list that only restates the stuff you just said. But hey you look active at least!

[Robz888]

And I typically do a DAMA at some point in the game but had taken January off for Dryuary. So haven't done one. Meta joke.

I'm in the middle of Dryruary currently...I commend you for picking a month with 31 days in it. Tomorrow is my halfway point, send thoughts and prayers.

I decide to do a Dry-er-uary, because that seemed less intimidating.

But that's all over now.

[faust]

Dryuary - is that like a thing where you convince yourself that you're not an alcoholic so that you can go back to poisoning yourself for the rest of the year without feeling guilty?

People are strange.

[Cuzz]

Dryuary - is that like a thing where you convince yourself that you're not an alcoholic so that you can go back to poisoning yourself for the rest of the year without feeling guilty?

People are strange.

Jesus, dude.

[pingpongsam]

Galzria left himself off his reads list so Vote: Galzria

Why would anybody include themself on their own reads list? Barring edge cases they would just put themself under town, whether they are town or scum.

Of course, you put yourself as town. But not including yourself is psychologically indicative of deflecting attention from yourself. It's the lowest grade scumslip there is.

[pingpongsam]

I certainly don’t care for the iguana division method.

I know all of these words individually but I have no idea what this means on the whole

Iguana did the early cryptic BS thingy and everyone decided to let that be a basis for picking sides on the "issue" and then trying to base reads of how people responded to it. Yes, I know that is how mafia works but I felt like this particular thingy was not worthwhile of doing the mafia thing around yet it has basically molded the D1 mindset and I'll have no part of it, except, you know, the part I'm having of it right now where I just call it null and void.

[Cuzz]

Galzria left himself off his reads list so Vote: Galzria

Why would anybody include themself on their own reads list? Barring edge cases they would just put themself under town, whether they are town or scum.

Of course, you put yourself as town. But not including yourself is psychologically indicative of deflecting attention from yourself. It's the lowest grade scumslip there is.

Oh wait you were serious about this? The idea that leaving yourself off a read list is indicative of a scum alignment is a pretty extraordinary claim and I will need some extraordinary evidence to believe it.

[mcmcsalot]

Dryuary - is that like a thing where you convince yourself that you're not an alcoholic so that you can go back to poisoning yourself for the rest of the year without feeling guilty?

People are strange.

I'm a financially stable 25 year old with no kids. I'm about as addicted to alcohol as my cat is to putting his mouse toy in his water bowl. Would it kill him if he couldn't do it anymore, not a chance, is it the best thing for him, the water, or the toy, probably not, but oh boy does he enjoy it.
I'm actually doing it almost entirely for weight loss reasons. I'm relatively fit for a desk working Midwesterner but since next month I have to spend a week on a beach next to Mr. and Mrs. White House and I'm sick of them making me look like the swamp thing I figured dropping the booze calories would make the working out go a lot farther.

[Cuzz]

I certainly don’t care for the iguana division method.

I know all of these words individually but I have no idea what this means on the whole

Iguana did the early cryptic BS thingy and everyone decided to let that be a basis for picking sides on the "issue" and then trying to base reads of how people responded to it. Yes, I know that is how mafia works but I felt like this particular thingy was not worthwhile of doing the mafia thing around yet it has basically molded the D1 mindset and I'll have no part of it, except, you know, the part I'm having of it right now where I just call it null and void.

But, like, people did respond to it and pick sides and there was a lot of discussion about it. So you are deciding to completely ignore almost all of the content and interactions from D1 so far because you didn't like how it originated?

[mcmcsalot]

I certainly don’t care for the iguana division method.

I know all of these words individually but I have no idea what this means on the whole

Iguana did the early cryptic BS thingy and everyone decided to let that be a basis for picking sides on the "issue" and then trying to base reads of how people responded to it. Yes, I know that is how mafia works but I felt like this particular thingy was not worthwhile of doing the mafia thing around yet it has basically molded the D1 mindset and I'll have no part of it, except, you know, the part I'm having of it right now where I just call it null and void.

But, like, people did respond to it and pick sides and there was a lot of discussion about it. So you are deciding to completely ignore almost all of the content and interactions from D1 so far because you didn't like how it originated?

Yea this seems wierd from pps but not scummy. I mean why does mafia decide to say that. It could just be a weird opinion.

[pingpongsam]

Galzria left himself off his reads list so Vote: Galzria

Why would anybody include themself on their own reads list? Barring edge cases they would just put themself under town, whether they are town or scum.

Of course, you put yourself as town. But not including yourself is psychologically indicative of deflecting attention from yourself. It's the lowest grade scumslip there is.

Oh wait you were serious about this? The idea that leaving yourself off a read list is indicative of a scum alignment is a pretty extraordinary claim and I will need some extraordinary evidence to believe it.

It's every bit as good as the iguana long division method for finding scum D1. As I recall everyone ever has put themselves on the list. To not do so is a willful act but not necessarily a conscious one. I'm placing my bets on this being a scumslip.

[pingpongsam]

I certainly don’t care for the iguana division method.

I know all of these words individually but I have no idea what this means on the whole

Iguana did the early cryptic BS thingy and everyone decided to let that be a basis for picking sides on the "issue" and then trying to base reads of how people responded to it. Yes, I know that is how mafia works but I felt like this particular thingy was not worthwhile of doing the mafia thing around yet it has basically molded the D1 mindset and I'll have no part of it, except, you know, the part I'm having of it right now where I just call it null and void.

But, like, people did respond to it and pick sides and there was a lot of discussion about it. So you are deciding to completely ignore almost all of the content and interactions from D1 so far because you didn't like how it originated?

That sums it up. There is nothing of value to be gained in my opinion. I mean, maybe tomorrow, but not today.

[Cuzz]

Galzria left himself off his reads list so Vote: Galzria

Why would anybody include themself on their own reads list? Barring edge cases they would just put themself under town, whether they are town or scum.

Of course, you put yourself as town. But not including yourself is psychologically indicative of deflecting attention from yourself. It's the lowest grade scumslip there is.

Oh wait you were serious about this? The idea that leaving yourself off a read list is indicative of a scum alignment is a pretty extraordinary claim and I will need some extraordinary evidence to believe it.

It's every bit as good as the iguana long division method for finding scum D1. As I recall everyone ever has put themselves on the list. To not do so is a willful act but not necessarily a conscious one. I'm placing my bets on this being a scumslip.

This seems insane to me and I am fairly certain that I have never done this. One does not need to spell out a read of onesself because one knows that one is town (or is lying) and one also knows that all other players expect one to present onesself as town. I find it more scummy when people go out of their way to say "hey all I'm town in case you didn't know," though I feel like town does it enough for it to be pretty much null.

Scumslips are barely a thing anyway and this is a seriously weak one at that.

[mcmcsalot]

Again the pps argument for Galz being scum I think is bad. I don't think its scummy to not put yourself on your reads list (if I remember I think I put myself on more often as scum because I think about it). But I don't think its a scummy argument for pps to push.

[pingpongsam]

Scumslips are barely a thing anyway and this is a seriously weak one at that.

I've already admitted it was weak. It's no weaker than iguana math and I'm not ripping into anyone over that.
I am, however, entirely the wrong person to try to tell scumslips barely exist seeing as most glaring examples are my own.

[pingpongsam]

I've been drinking Miller DryLife since 2011.

[Galzria]

Some reads so far:

Slight townread:
TWM
faust
Galz

Slight scumread:
DatSwan
LaLight
SirClemens

Null:
pps
Space
mcmc
iguana

Robz:
Robz

Literally has not posted yet:
Teproc

Cuzz, you forgot yourself on this list. Are you scum? 

[Galzria]

Teproc posting 0 times is not alignment telling at all. Stuff happens, he should be prodded but no one here can reasonably say he is lurking - As he just doesn’t do that.

I hate the ii discussion because as we go to night 1 all it means is that he will be targeted if he is Town and not if he is skum. Suppose that speaks against potential SK.

Galz mis reading me is skummy based on every game we have ever played together.

Robz seems towny.

MC seems towny and normal.

Faust is Faust.

PpS seems polar opposite of the only other game i have played with them (think they were skum)

It’s February and still no dams posts from TWM so probz skum there.

Everyone else is whatever.

Swan, you forgot yourself on this list. Are you scum? 

[faust]

Scumteam Cuzz/DatSwan/Galzria confirmed.

[Cuzz]

Scumslips are barely a thing anyway and this is a seriously weak one at that.

I've already admitted it was weak. It's no weaker than iguana math and I'm not ripping into anyone over that.
I am, however, entirely the wrong person to try to tell scumslips barely exist seeing as most glaring examples are my own.

I guess you can use it to give you a read on Galz if you want, though I disagree with the argument. My indignation is more about calling it a “scumslip” which I guess means something much stronger to me than it does to you.

[Galzria]

PPS - I refer to myself often when looking at and presenting cases. More often than not I'm assuming some chance of me being scum in those points because they're often argued from "another players" perspective - example: "The lynch pool today should be one of {Galzria, Robz, PPS} because they pushed a town wagon D1, didn't participate in a scum lynch D2, and lynched town D3" - I know I'm town, but no other town player knows this, so it's worth including myself in their potential lynch pool.

I don't, however, put myself on my own personal reads lists unless I'm feeling facetious.

In both items above, neither is alignment indicative.

[Galzria]

Scumteam Cuzz/DatSwan/Galzria confirmed.

Aww damn. Were we that obvious?

[Robz888]

Which player thinks not putting yourself on a scum list is a scum tell? Because I want to vote for that player.

[Swowl]

Dryuary - is that like a thing where you convince yourself that you're not an alcoholic so that you can go back to poisoning yourself for the rest of the year without feeling guilty?

People are strange.

nailed it!