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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #75 on: February 11, 2018, 05:41:54 pm »

Vote count 1.1

Cuzz (3): The_Wine_Merchant, mcmcsalot, LaLight
pingpongsam (2): Cuzz, SpaceAnemone
The_Wine_Merchant (1): DatSwan
Robz888 (1): pingpongsam
mcmcsalot (1): faust

not voting (5): Robz888, SirClemens, Teproc, Galzria, iguanaiguana

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. day 1 ends saturday, february 17th at 17:00 forum time. thread unlucked.

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #76 on: February 11, 2018, 06:09:35 pm »

Cuss doesn't have to be scum,  he was grumpy at me last time we played together too.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #77 on: February 11, 2018, 06:10:12 pm »

Cuzz*

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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #78 on: February 11, 2018, 06:28:42 pm »

I accept iguana as town, and don't think he should claim more.
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SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #79 on: February 11, 2018, 07:58:43 pm »

I accept iguana as town, and don't think he should claim more.

you would
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #80 on: February 11, 2018, 08:31:00 pm »

I accept iguana as town, and don't think he should claim more.

you would

Yes
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #81 on: February 11, 2018, 09:29:28 pm »

I accept iguana as town, and don't think he should claim more.

you would

Yes
I don't accept this argument. The iguana is town part, at least. And think he should claim if he thinks he should (looks like he isn't going to, which is fine), but find those giving town credit without actually hearing what he has to say/claim mildly to moderately suspicious.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #82 on: February 11, 2018, 09:30:12 pm »

That would be faust, Robz and galz.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #83 on: February 12, 2018, 01:14:35 am »

Good. Now that we've gotten that out of the way, which of these seems most likely:

Scum {any of us} supports Town Iguana
Scum {any of us} supports Scum Iguana
Town {any of us} supports Town Iguana
Town {any of us} supports Scum Iguana

Personally, in a void, I think option 2 is least likely in any given game. That means even if you value the others all equally, Iguana is more likely than not town.

Not to mention, you know, this isn't scum iguana.
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #84 on: February 12, 2018, 01:39:15 am »

Good. Now that we've gotten that out of the way, which of these seems most likely:

Scum {any of us} supports Town Iguana
Scum {any of us} supports Scum Iguana
Town {any of us} supports Town Iguana
Town {any of us} supports Scum Iguana

Personally, in a void, I think option 2 is least likely in any given game. That means even if you value the others all equally, Iguana is more likely than not town.

Not to mention, you know, this isn't scum iguana.
And, by the same token, all of us are town!
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #85 on: February 12, 2018, 02:24:40 am »

Good. Now that we've gotten that out of the way, which of these seems most likely:

Scum {any of us} supports Town Iguana
Scum {any of us} supports Scum Iguana
Town {any of us} supports Town Iguana
Town {any of us} supports Scum Iguana

Personally, in a void, I think option 2 is least likely in any given game. That means even if you value the others all equally, Iguana is more likely than not town.

Not to mention, you know, this isn't scum iguana.
And, by the same token, all of us are town!

Most of us, probably, I would say, yes. But that's more random sampling than anything else. The point is, scum - to - scum pairings like this don't happen out of the gates D1. There's no point. For Iguana or for anybody else. If Iguana is scum his partners will have stayed neutral, silent, or against him. It's not unreasonable, as TWM suggests, for scum to call things out as townie by townie players to gain town cred themselves for "good reads". No problem at all with TWM getting mild scum vibes from that. But I believe those exact same vibes point towards a likely town!iguana.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Total Wins: 30
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2018, 02:29:12 am »

Good. Now that we've gotten that out of the way, which of these seems most likely:

Scum {any of us} supports Town Iguana
Scum {any of us} supports Scum Iguana
Town {any of us} supports Town Iguana
Town {any of us} supports Scum Iguana

Personally, in a void, I think option 2 is least likely in any given game. That means even if you value the others all equally, Iguana is more likely than not town.

Not to mention, you know, this isn't scum iguana.

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2018, 03:06:53 am »

Good. Now that we've gotten that out of the way, which of these seems most likely:

Scum {any of us} supports Town Iguana
Scum {any of us} supports Scum Iguana
Town {any of us} supports Town Iguana
Town {any of us} supports Scum Iguana

Personally, in a void, I think option 2 is least likely in any given game. That means even if you value the others all equally, Iguana is more likely than not town.

Not to mention, you know, this isn't scum iguana.
And, by the same token, all of us are town!

Most of us, probably, I would say, yes. But that's more random sampling than anything else. The point is, scum - to - scum pairings like this don't happen out of the gates D1. There's no point. For Iguana or for anybody else. If Iguana is scum his partners will have stayed neutral, silent, or against him. It's not unreasonable, as TWM suggests, for scum to call things out as townie by townie players to gain town cred themselves for "good reads". No problem at all with TWM getting mild scum vibes from that. But I believe those exact same vibes point towards a likely town!iguana.
I guess I should make it clear that I don't agree at all, and I see no reason why scum!iguana's partners wouldn't townread him for this especially if it was premeditated, and the only reason that scum/scum pairing is unlikely is purely statistical.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #88 on: February 12, 2018, 03:58:55 am »

Good. Now that we've gotten that out of the way, which of these seems most likely:

Scum {any of us} supports Town Iguana
Scum {any of us} supports Scum Iguana
Town {any of us} supports Town Iguana
Town {any of us} supports Scum Iguana

Personally, in a void, I think option 2 is least likely in any given game. That means even if you value the others all equally, Iguana is more likely than not town.

Not to mention, you know, this isn't scum iguana.
And, by the same token, all of us are town!

Most of us, probably, I would say, yes. But that's more random sampling than anything else. The point is, scum - to - scum pairings like this don't happen out of the gates D1. There's no point. For Iguana or for anybody else. If Iguana is scum his partners will have stayed neutral, silent, or against him. It's not unreasonable, as TWM suggests, for scum to call things out as townie by townie players to gain town cred themselves for "good reads". No problem at all with TWM getting mild scum vibes from that. But I believe those exact same vibes point towards a likely town!iguana.
I guess I should make it clear that I don't agree at all, and I see no reason why scum!iguana's partners wouldn't townread him for this especially if it was premeditated, and the only reason that scum/scum pairing is unlikely is purely statistical.

Stats:
Variable A: Skum trying to pull some shit
Variable B: Town trying to make a muck.

either way don't claim. let's move on.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #89 on: February 12, 2018, 04:00:21 am »

also just remembered how much i despise this part of the game
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2018, 04:03:01 am »

either way don't claim. let's move on.
Move on to where?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2018, 04:16:40 am »

not voting (5): Robz888, SirClemens, Teproc, Galzria, iguanaiguana

not voting (5): Robz888, SirClemens, Teproc, Galzria, iguanaiguana

not voting (5): Robz888, SirClemens, Teproc, Galzria, iguanaiguana

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« Reply #92 on: February 12, 2018, 04:19:34 am »

either way don't claim. let's move on.
Move on to where?

idk. talking about dumb shit for 6 days until someone dies?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #93 on: February 12, 2018, 04:26:29 am »

not voting (5): Robz888, SirClemens, Teproc, Galzria, iguanaiguana

not voting (5): Robz888, SirClemens, Teproc, Galzria, iguanaiguana

not voting (5): Robz888, SirClemens, Teproc, Galzria, iguanaiguana

Woah.

What?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #94 on: February 12, 2018, 04:28:46 am »

either way don't claim. let's move on.
Move on to where?

idk. talking about dumb shit for 6 days until someone dies?
Wouldn't this game be much more enjoyable for everyone if you did not go into it with this attitude?
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« Reply #95 on: February 12, 2018, 04:29:08 am »

not voting (5): Robz888, SirClemens, Teproc, Galzria, iguanaiguana

not voting (5): Robz888, SirClemens, Teproc, Galzria, iguanaiguana

not voting (5): Robz888, SirClemens, Teproc, Galzria, iguanaiguana

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« Reply #96 on: February 12, 2018, 04:31:10 am »

either way don't claim. let's move on.
Move on to where?

idk. talking about dumb shit for 6 days until someone dies?
Wouldn't this game be much more enjoyable for everyone if you did not go into it with this attitude?

DS obviously exaggerated what always is happening.
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« Reply #97 on: February 12, 2018, 04:32:33 am »

I think Cuzz' reaction on ii claim was a little off. What does meta say about this?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #98 on: February 12, 2018, 04:34:15 am »

either way don't claim. let's move on.
Move on to where?

idk. talking about dumb shit for 6 days until someone dies?
Wouldn't this game be much more enjoyable for everyone if you did not go into it with this attitude?
I enjoy these games quite a lot.... just not the dumb part at the beginning. which if I remember..... you have actually agreed with me about in previous games? that's kind of weird.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 1)
« Reply #99 on: February 12, 2018, 04:35:17 am »

cryptic stuff said by people in the beginning of D1 is almost always a sign of town, I say this as a person who does this sometimes. And as much as a lot of you doesn't like this stuff, it's still useful. That said I agree with ii being town.
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