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M113: sufjan stevens (OH THE WORLD IS A MESS)
« on: January 18, 2018, 01:26:11 pm »

welcome to M113: sufjan stevens mafia

this game will use a closed, invented 13-player setup in the style of normal games from mafiascum. the working title of the setup is sirfjohn stevememes em one hundred thirteen masterpiece sing-a-long blog

mod: schadd
reviewer: RadiantCowbells

widows in paradise: ash

cities and towns of the united states:
1. Robz888
2. DatSwan sauce
3. faust
4. SirClemens
5. mcmcsalot
6. Teproc
7. pingpongsam
8. Galzria
9. iguanaiguana
10. Cuzz
11. The_Wine_Merchant
12. SpaceAnemone
13. LaLight

The Rules:

The Golden Rule:
This is a game. Everyone who signs up to play must be considerate of each other, never get personal, and focus on having fun. Once the game starts, having signed up is a commitment: inactivity is just as inconsiderate as rude comments.

The Standard Rules:
1. No communication between players outside of the game thread or shared QTs at any time. This includes passing references, jokes, or cases in other games or threads, whether in context or not.
2. If the game thread is locked, do not post. If you are unsure if something is locked, ask the mod by PM.
3. Direct or verbatim quoting of mod-provided information is strictly forbidden. Paraphrasing is okay.
4. Actions with instructions that do not specify a game state will be resolved in the order they are received.
5. All night actions must be submitted within 24 hours of day ending.
6. Players must post once every 24 hours.
7. Do not edit or delete posts, ever. If you need to clarify or correct something, post again.
8. Invisible text, font size less than 10, and spoiler tags are not allowed.
9. Cryptography is not allowed.
10. The time between a lynch being reached and a flip being provided is called twilight. All players may continue posting during this time, including the lynched player.
11. Dead players may not post in thread or QT, except their Role QT. A lynched player is not "dead" until a flip has been provided.
12. Personal multimedia, such as video or audio recordings, are not allowed in the game thread.


The Voting Rules:
1. Votes should be in this format: Vote: Playername. Unambigiuous nicknames are acceptable, or any string that uniquely identifies a user. Note that the point of voting is, in fact, unambiguity, and attempting to make it unclear to other players (or, of course, mods) which user you are voting for is very ill-advised.
2. Unvotes should be in this format:
unvote or Unvote: Playername.
3. Unvotes are not required if changing your vote from one player to another.
4. You may
vote: no lynch.
5. Lynches occur when a simple majority (rounded up) of living players is reached. Once reached, a lynch cannot be undone.
6. If a majority lynch is not reached by the Day's deadline, no lynch occurs.

The Rest:
1. Bold, aquamarine text is reserved for the mod. Players may not use it.
2. If you have an issue or problem with the game, please PM the Mod. Do not post complaints in the game thread.
3. Mods make mistakes - please point them out gently. If they can be corrected, they will. If irreversible, they will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
4. If a mod error disadvantages one faction greatly, the game may be called off.
5. Ask all questions and make all requests directly to the Mod via PM. Questions deemed as "universal" (defined as questions for which the answers should be available to all players) will be requested to be re-posted in the Game Thread and answered there.
6. One prod will be issued after 48 hours without posting in the game thread. Players are subject to replacement or modkill after one prod.
7. All rule violations will be dealt with according to their severity, as determined by the mod.
8. Each player will receive their own QT, regardless of role. Don't quote from it.
9. If the game goes on for 3 days and 3 nights without a lynch or nightkill, town wins.

Deadlines:
7-day Days, 2-day Nights
« Last Edit: March 20, 2018, 05:14:27 pm by schadd »
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups)
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2018, 01:26:25 pm »

ethos:


taken from this page, in case you want to click all the links.

i will assemble a 10 town vs. 3 scum setup using exclusively the normal roles & modifiers from this list. you can expect there to be less than 6 power roles for town and less than 3 power roles for scum.
  • my goal for the game is to be balanced and reasonable; i am attempting to provide a 50-50 winrate for both alignments, while also having nuanced un-breakable gameplay. players ought to achieve good outcomes from good decisions and won't get utterly dumpstered by some rando role interaction
  • any number of each role can be present. i could have, for instance, 5 vigilantes. this would conflict with approximately every convention from the first point, however. no one can have more than one distinctive role, but multiple modifiers are possible.
  • each non-VT role will have a unique flavor / song flip, VTs will just be dealt with the same way as people from the previous song-theme games (lyrics relevant to the person/situation)
  • setup was made before flavor was considered. scum will have a bunch of safe fakeclaims. john wayne gacy jr. will not be the name of any roles.
  • any clarification question can be asked at any time, in public or in QT. an exhaustive clarifications list is pretty much impossible.
  • no one will be able to use more than one action each night. mafia will be unable to communicate during the day unless they have an encryptor.
  • bonus mechanic: each day, each living person is able to publicly submit a setup (specify all existing town & scum power roles) and i will say whether or not that would be within the realm of possibility for this game (and what reason if not). note that this covers possibility and not probability; y'all can feel free to pine over whether i am more or less likely to do certain specific things at your leisure
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups)
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2018, 04:06:07 pm »

/in
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups)
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2018, 04:14:41 pm »

/in sauce
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2018, 03:22:46 am »

/in

Can you confirm that the game will only have roles from the list you posted (the page you linked to states that there may be one invented role)?

Does this mean that mafia will have no shared factional powers other than their nightkill?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2018, 01:24:21 pm »

yes and yes
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2018, 10:41:42 am »

/in
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2018, 01:32:44 pm »

/in
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Losses: M20, M22, M25, M27, M30, M31, M35, M38, M40, M42, M46, M60, M90, M93, M96, M98, M100, M101, M106, M111, M113
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2018, 05:46:17 pm »

Got scared off by the bonus mechanic + one game at a time rule
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2018, 06:39:55 pm »

What's a sufjan ?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2018, 06:41:14 pm »

Also /in
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2018, 08:28:54 am »

Got scared off by the bonus mechanic + one game at a time rule

Oh yea I haaate the bonus mechanic but of course there is the must be in at least one game at all times rule so I'm in anyway.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2018, 09:54:41 am »

So, if I don't read the setup that means one of the possible roles is IC and I get to be that?

Alrighty, then, /IN
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2018, 10:36:20 am »

What's a sufjan ?
good question!
Got scared off by the bonus mechanic + one game at a time rule

Oh yea I haaate the bonus mechanic but of course there is the must be in at least one game at all times rule so I'm in anyway.
what what what!
what is the issue with it?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2018, 03:18:07 pm »

What's a sufjan ?
good question!
Got scared off by the bonus mechanic + one game at a time rule

Oh yea I haaate the bonus mechanic but of course there is the must be in at least one game at all times rule so I'm in anyway.
what what what!
what is the issue with it?

I just dislike the potential of mod confirming speculated setups. It just feels strange and promotes public setup speculation which I don't like.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2018, 04:31:58 pm »

What's a sufjan ?
good question!
Got scared off by the bonus mechanic + one game at a time rule

Oh yea I haaate the bonus mechanic but of course there is the must be in at least one game at all times rule so I'm in anyway.
what what what!
what is the issue with it?

I just dislike the potential of mod confirming speculated setups. It just feels strange and promotes public setup speculation which I don't like.
so i guess i'll add a poll.

i see what you're saying. for the first point i don't think "confirming" is going to be a big problem - there can always be more or less power in unflipped scum to account for more or less town PRs, and there is also gonna be a bit of a range to the relative powers anyway due to, like, fallibility. the mechanic doesn't add to the setup solvability more than ought to be present if people were used to the setup design, which some are and some aren't.

for the second thing, yes i sort of agree. especially the notion of, like, spending a lot of effort to find a certain setup speculation that's the most informative, and judging other people based on how they do that. huge hassle if it doesn't really interest you. to try to police that i could:
-not change it (which i think is most, like, altruistic? for general setup speculation) and rely on y'all to self-police how seriously you take it
-have it be private and informal (i.e., in QT and you can submit as many setups as you want until i inevitiably rip my hair out)
-remove it and let people use e.g. the game archive as a reference (perhaps more elegant but not always aligned with how i in particular would make the setups)
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2018, 04:37:53 pm »

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2018, 11:24:31 pm »

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2018, 07:28:12 am »

I'm not voting in the poll because trying to deduce a setup is so far outside my skill set that it is immaterial to me that this is even a thing.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2018, 01:54:10 pm »

For you Schadd? /in
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TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
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SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

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SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

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TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
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SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2018, 02:04:24 pm »

so that is startlingly unanimous but ok. sometimes i worry that i'm influencing you guys with the answer names too much


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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2018, 02:15:00 pm »

so that is startlingly unanimous but ok. sometimes i worry that i'm influencing you guys with the answer names too much
"Oh my god schadd uses caps. That has to be the correct answer!"
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (iguanaiguana has to join)
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2018, 03:16:57 pm »

see i would think the opposite
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (ugh i guess iguanaiguana isn't joining)
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2018, 07:27:14 pm »

Can’t wait for the inevitable “poll claim” once the game starts.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (signups) (ugh i guess iguanaiguana isn't joining)
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2018, 09:09:28 pm »

/in strange ideas
In stranger times
I've no idea
What's right sometimes.
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