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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2018, 04:34:37 pm »
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I've bought Goat exactly twice.
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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2018, 04:48:17 pm »
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Well, it's all relative.

If you choose your starting hand, and then Monty Hall opens a door and shows you a Goat behind that door, do you want to change your starting hand to include Goat, Or stay with the same starting hand?
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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2018, 04:52:41 pm »
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Well, it's all relative.

If you choose your starting hand, and then Monty Hall opens a door and shows you a Goat behind that door, do you want to change your starting hand to include Goat, Or stay with the same starting hand?

Finally, a new wrinkle to this old problem: do I want the car or the goat?
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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2018, 06:30:26 pm »
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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2018, 06:35:17 pm »
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There really is one for everything.
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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2018, 07:56:47 am »
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I think it's just as pointless to ask whether Goat is good as it is to ask whether Borrow, Delve or any specific Landmark are good. They are rules changes more than anything.

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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2018, 08:29:30 am »
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I think it's just as pointless to ask whether Goat is good as it is to ask whether Borrow, Delve or any specific Landmark are good. They are rules changes more than anything.

Itís at the very least a bit more relevant than Events and Landmarks, because you can choose to trash the Goat. If Goat were a horrible card, you might choose to trash it sooner, for example. The goodness of Goat also affects other decisions, such as whether or not you get other trashers, and how many of them.
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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2018, 09:08:39 am »
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I think it's just as pointless to ask whether Goat is good as it is to ask whether Borrow, Delve or any specific Landmark are good. They are rules changes more than anything.

Itís at the very least a bit more relevant than Events and Landmarks, because you can choose to trash the Goat. If Goat were a horrible card, you might choose to trash it sooner, for example. The goodness of Goat also affects other decisions, such as whether or not you get other trashers, and how many of them.

Right. Goat is strong and impactful, no doubt. I admit that even though you don't decide to get Goat, you can decide to get rid of it, so it is more of a player decision than the others I named.

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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2018, 12:11:47 am »
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There really is one for everything.
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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2018, 05:19:48 am »
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I think it's just as pointless to ask whether Goat is good as it is to ask whether Borrow, Delve or any specific Landmark are good. They are rules changes more than anything.

Itís at the very least a bit more relevant than Events and Landmarks, because you can choose to trash the Goat. If Goat were a horrible card, you might choose to trash it sooner, for example. The goodness of Goat also affects other decisions, such as whether or not you get other trashers, and how many of them.

Also, you can easily imagine Goat as a kingdom card (or even house-rule it to be one, if you're fine with a 6-card pile  ;)). The same is true for Delve (which is effectively a (boring) kingdom card, Silver+on-gain buy for $2, in disguise), but not for Borrow or any landmark.
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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2018, 06:29:58 am »
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I think it's just as pointless to ask whether Goat is good as it is to ask whether Borrow, Delve or any specific Landmark are good. They are rules changes more than anything.

Itís at the very least a bit more relevant than Events and Landmarks, because you can choose to trash the Goat. If Goat were a horrible card, you might choose to trash it sooner, for example. The goodness of Goat also affects other decisions, such as whether or not you get other trashers, and how many of them.

Also, you can easily imagine Goat as a kingdom card (or even house-rule it to be one, if you're fine with a 6-card pile  ;)). The same is true for Delve (which is effectively a (boring) kingdom card, Silver+on-gain buy for $2, in disguise), but not for Borrow or any landmark.

Delve is practically strictly better than Silver and so that wouldn't work. Goat, sure. Other Heirlooms like Cursed Gold, not so much. Goat is not a kingdom card, though.

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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2018, 06:35:41 am »
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Delve is practically strictly better than Silver and so that wouldn't work.

That's as much of a problem for a kingdom card as it is for an Event (i.e. it isn't).
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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2018, 01:13:34 pm »
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Delve is practically strictly better than Silver and so that wouldn't work.

That's as much of a problem for a kingdom card as it is for an Event (i.e. it isn't).

I'm with you in that it's not a problem technically, but it goes against Donald X' design tradition. Much like e.g. directed attacks.

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Re: How good is Goat?
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2018, 02:07:26 am »
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Delve is practically strictly better than Silver and so that wouldn't work.

That's as much of a problem for a kingdom card as it is for an Event (i.e. it isn't).
It's completely a perceptual problem, but that's still a problem, and I think being an Event does help perceptions there.
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