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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2017, 03:44:24 pm »
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[Socks]

But Moat is strictly better than Socks ...

It’s the other way around. Protection from attacks doesn’t make you pleased, this does
Someone could Masquerade and pass you Socks and you don't have to act pleased.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2017, 07:22:56 pm »
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Speaking of Masquerade, does your relative sit to your left?
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2017, 07:24:16 pm »
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Looking forward to the discussions wether these cards are canon.
At first glance, Vacation looks way too overpowered to be canon at $5?

Personally, I'm looking forward to the discussions of the anachronistic electric lights in the artwork...
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2017, 10:52:37 pm »
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Personally, I'm looking forward to the discussions of the anachronistic electric lights in the artwork...

I tried to find art without them. I eventually gave up. And Donald found art for the last few cards I was struggling with.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2017, 02:48:47 pm »
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"If it's not their turn" is supposed to clarify that.

Ah, I was reading it a different way, assuming that Relatives might have other Relatives even deeper in the extended family who hadn't played their turn yet, but that wording makes sense now.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2017, 03:27:29 pm »
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This is hilarious! Thanks DXV and LastFootnote!

So maybe I need talking down from the ledge, but, Tree is actually a decent Landmark, right? I really want to print one out and play with it. The other cards here are obvious jokes, but it feels like you could include Tree in an official expansion and I wouldn't think it was out of place.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2017, 03:32:14 pm »
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So maybe I need talking down from the ledge, but, Tree is actually a decent Landmark, right? I really want to print one out and play with it. The other cards here are obvious jokes, but it feels like you could include Tree in an official expansion and I wouldn't think it was out of place.
It's pretty redundant with Labyrinth. Otherwise sure. I preferred Labyrinth because it also works with +Buys, meaning it's dead in fewer games.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2017, 03:36:10 pm »
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Looking forward to the discussions wether these cards are canon.
At first glance, Vacation looks way too overpowered to be canon at $5?

Personally, I'm looking forward to the discussions of the anachronistic electric lights in the artwork...

Obviously, they were put up by the Groundskeeper.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2017, 03:59:59 pm »
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So maybe I need talking down from the ledge, but, Tree is actually a decent Landmark, right? I really want to print one out and play with it.
Has anybody print-and-played the whole kingdom yet?

I'm guessing the power levels are seriously wonky, but there are plenty of games which get away with far worse by being funny. (-8

(And because Christmas wouldn't be Christmas without Dominion rules questions: If I buy a Silver then react with a Trader to gain a Silver instead, does the Tree lose track of the Silver and not notice it's the one I bought?)
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2017, 04:58:34 pm »
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(And because Christmas wouldn't be Christmas without Dominion rules questions: If I buy a Silver then react with a Trader to gain a Silver instead, does the Tree lose track of the Silver and not notice it's the one I bought?)
"Lose track" only applies to moving cards and blah blah blah see wiki.

If you use Trader to gain a Silver instead of something else, bought or not, that's a Silver you gained without buying it, so Tree will trigger on it.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2017, 06:48:05 pm »
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Vacation is like if someone misinterpreted "Double Tactician."
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2017, 08:09:41 am »
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But Moat is strictly better than Socks ...

That's the point, any time you got socks as a Christmas gift you had to bs to your parents that you very much enjoyed the gift.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2017, 08:32:42 am »
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That's the point, any time you got socks as a Christmas gift you had to bs to your parents that you very much enjoyed the gift.

But when you got a moat as a Christmas gift, you actually enjoyed it.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2017, 09:03:01 am »
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This is true, I received Moat (and the rest of the set) for Christmas and enjoy it.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2017, 10:22:04 am »
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That's the point, any time you got socks as a Christmas gift you had to bs to your parents that you very much enjoyed the gift.

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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2017, 02:13:40 pm »
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So maybe I need talking down from the ledge, but, Tree is actually a decent Landmark, right? I really want to print one out and play with it. The other cards here are obvious jokes, but it feels like you could include Tree in an official expansion and I wouldn't think it was out of place.
It's pretty redundant with Labyrinth. Otherwise sure. I preferred Labyrinth because it also works with +Buys, meaning it's dead in fewer games.

Oh right, that's true. I like Tree a lot because I irrationally love on-gains and gainers (who doesn't like free bonuses!?), but from a design point of view, the fact that it will do nothing in many games makes it less desirable. I guess it wants to have a secondary ability... I've got it! Let's make it so that it gets you the VPs on-gain and on additional buys! Oh, wait...
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2017, 02:33:13 pm »
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This fixes Socks:

« Last Edit: December 29, 2017, 02:36:46 pm by King Leon »
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2017, 07:18:33 pm »
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This fixes Socks:



That is ruddy terrifying
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2018, 07:16:50 am »
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This fixes Socks:



That is ruddy terrifying

I should add: until the end of your turn.

Yes, after Christmas everything is cheaper and people are so Pleased about their money gifts and the money for returning gifts, so that the one-time bridge effect sounds good here.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2018, 06:16:11 pm »
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I thought Magic Hat+Distant Lands would be a good deal, but a closer read of the latter suggests I was wrong. :(
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2018, 03:29:41 am »
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Happy holidays!

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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2018, 05:00:26 pm »
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When I play something like Nobles, Mill or Harem with Magic Hat, do I also receive their effects? Could I also play a Night/Victory if one existed?

Edit: Magic Hat is also bad in the German translations which add "Bei Spielende" ("at the end of the game") to many Victory cards.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2018, 05:06:45 pm »
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When I play something like Nobles, Mill or Harem with Magic Hat, do I also receive their effects? Could I also play a Night/Victory if one existed?

Edit: Magic Hat is also bad in the German translations which add "Bei Spielende" ("at the end of the game") to many Victory cards.
You do get the effects of playing the VP cards, and can play a Victory-whatever.

I don't make design decisions based on translation mistakes. For a while, when I knew that the German Duration cards incorrectly used a dividing line, I thought, well, don't make a card that makes that matter, and I probably wasn't going to anyway. But Enchantress makes it matter so there.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2018, 06:17:46 pm »
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Shouldn't Grinch say 'Reveal and Gain...'? Otherwise everyone else will have to guess whether to be unhappy or not.
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Re: Christmas Kingdoms 2017
« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2018, 07:03:08 pm »
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Shouldn't Grinch say 'Reveal and Gain...'? Otherwise everyone else will have to guess whether to be unhappy or not.
The idea was that the cards would be riddled with things people could nitpick about, for the people who really enjoy nitpicking. Fun for everyone!
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