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[Galzria]

Vote: Galzria

pretty bizarre galzria i've seen today. I think he smelled blood in the water and now is panicking when it didn't pan out

That might be.

Panicking over... what? Exactly? O being at 4 votes and the leading wagon is an interesting definition of "not panning out".

I wasn't even your primary lynch target. But despite being the leading wagon, I don't think I'm actually getting lynched today.

Panicking over the rejection of your rhetoric for what you thought would be an easy mislynch

Rejected by you, and Teproc... surprise! Robz too, but that's not surprising. Everybody else that's been active has more or less been in agreement. We just need more of those people.

nobody else has been active, Galz. Except MCMC. Who doesn't appear to agree with you.

This assumes we're ignoring Ashersky's "activity" of course

That's weird. Pretty sure I recall EFHW, Eevee, Gkrieg, DatSwan and Ashersky all being on you or Teproc.

Eevee and Datswan and Gkrieg all have negative post counts

And yet they're voting in the right places.

[ashersky]

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[Teproc]

Vote: Galzria

pretty bizarre galzria i've seen today. I think he smelled blood in the water and now is panicking when it didn't pan out

That might be.

Panicking over... what? Exactly? O being at 4 votes and the leading wagon is an interesting definition of "not panning out".

I wasn't even your primary lynch target. But despite being the leading wagon, I don't think I'm actually getting lynched today.

Panicking over the rejection of your rhetoric for what you thought would be an easy mislynch

Rejected by you, and Teproc... surprise! Robz too, but that's not surprising. Everybody else that's been active has more or less been in agreement. We just need more of those people.

Who are these people you mention ? Cause I haven't seen anyone agreeing with you... because your theory is nonsensical, as you've all but admitted yourself by retreating into scumteam theorizing.

[Teproc]

People voting O or me is not the same thing as agreeing with you... especially people like Swan or gkrieg who haven't posted in two days or something.

WHatever, this is not about winning an argument (because you know, there's no argument to be won here, you're just making random stuff up and seeing what sticks), it's about people taking the time to read the last five pages and voting Galz. So you know, do that people.

[Teproc]

To remind everyone, Galz's theory is something like:

I'm a Goon who decided to fakeclaim PR solely to cover the case where gkrieg targeted me so that I could get the info for my Oracle. O is probably my scumbuddy who "covered" for me by claiming roleblocker (instead of not doing so which would have made it me vs gkrieg, now by throwing himself in the mix it's two scum and a townie, what a brilliant plan).

Or maybe I'm town and O decided to claim truthfully... again just so that he could avoid the lynch being between me and gkrieg ? Because... what, gkrieg is his partner ? Actually Galz hasn't gone that route at all, but that's a thing I guess.

[Teproc]

I'm sure Galz will claim I'm misrepresenting him, but it's hard to know exactly what his theory is beyond "oh my god so many PRs they must be scum".

[Galzria]

I'm sure Galz will claim I'm misrepresenting him, but it's hard to know exactly what his theory is beyond "oh my god so many PRs they must be scum".

No, but I'm not going to be petty and write up asinine renditions of your "defenses". Everything is there and people can read it for themselves. There really isn't any point trying to debate scum about them being scum.

[gkrieg13]

Sorry. Going to get to this tomorrow. Family is gone but we are having friends come by on their cross country move so I have been getting the house ready for that.

[Archetype]

Vote Count 2.4

Teproc (2): gkrieg13, DatSwan
O (4): ashersky, EFHW, Eevee, Galzria
mcmcsalot (1): Robz888
Robz888 (2): chairs, mcmcsalot
Galzria (2): Teproc, O

Not Voting (1): IDontPlayThisGame
With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Day 2 will end January 8th at 7:00 PM

Is anybody prodable? I feel like there are many people not contributing right now.

Prod All eligible players.

Prods sent to chairs and DatSwan

[mcmcsalot]

Vote: Galzria

pretty bizarre galzria i've seen today. I think he smelled blood in the water and now is panicking when it didn't pan out

So still pretty behind but I can actually very much see a scenario where scum!robz planned during the night to come out with this case on me, he thinks he can get me lynched for discussing the dp thing and puts me as a pr. Once the case falls apart and town begins turning in robz (I believe many people were agreeing I was townie and robz case didn’t make a ton of sens) but instead of letting that play out scum!glaz artfully blew the thread up with his not only his theory about teproc/gkrieg/o but going so far as to respond and quote and repeat to every single point pushing us far far past he conversations early in the day.

Note still catching up the above O quote is where in at

[mcmcsalot]

Okay so caught up. I think agree with robz and o and teproc scum!teproc doesn’t do all of this just to learn about oracle. The only thing that works is scum!teproc A) tracked someone and failed so he knows he was blocked, or B) is scum with O. In A) scum!teproc Knows he was blocked but pretends somehow his doc failed and tries to put gkrieg while knowing o will eventually claim to have blocked him. In B) both teproc and o take way to much heat and I don’t believe they do it. O being lone scum makes no sense because he just wouldn’t say anything and let this play out. I don’t think he’s super afraid of tracker efhw.

Add in to all of this I thought teproc was towny day one I don’t think A is the case. I would much rather lynch robz who made the terrible case on me and was scummy yesterday. If robz flips scum I do think that paints galz in a scummy light. Also chairs has been like nowhere same with eevee.

[EFHW]

I agree that galz has seemed off. I don't think robz's case against you not doing well is much of a motivation for him to blow up the thread, but I'll go back and reread the day when I'm at a computer.

[EFHW]

So, I read it on my phone and Galz comes in because I asked if he was vla. Then he mistakenly posted his analysis when it sounds like he was intending to do it the next irl day. So the timing doesn't seem very informative as to motivation.

[EFHW]

He does seem scummy, but I don't think his flipping scum should implicate Robz.

[mcmcsalot]

He does seem scummy, but I don't think his flipping scum should implicate Robz.

No I don’t think his flipping scum would say much about robz alignment, rather I was thinking robz flipping scum would slightly implicate galz as scummy as it would mean galz’s tirade has the added benefit of distracting from what’s I felt to be a growing suspicion of robz.

This theory is not as strong as I thought when I said it though. I incorrectly remembered galz doing a similar thing to protect me from suspicion when we were scum together in pirates mafia but after some minor rereading of that game I don’t think that’s what happened so my “scum!galz likes to defend partners by plunging headlong into a new discussion and distancing from their suspicion” theory isn’t backed up by fact.

[mcmcsalot]

Efhw you are still voting o my apologies if it’s been stated recently but do you still find him scummy and if so what’s the short reason?

[EFHW]

I'm not convinced he's scum. My vote is still on him for rudeness. I'm thinking of moving to Galz. O's extreme defensiveness could be flailing scum, but I'm leaning towards reading it as outraged town.

[mcmcsalot]

I'm not convinced he's scum. My vote is still on him for rudeness. I'm thinking of moving to Galz. O's extreme defensiveness could be flailing scum, but I'm leaning towards reading it as outraged town.

Understandable, for what it’s worth I didn’t read anything out of the ordinary in his tone nor an intention of rudeness.

What are you thoughts on eevee? I’ve found it very hard to formulate any read in him as Andrew was on exsistant and it feels eevee has slipped into a similar pattern. I should do a quick reread of him.

[EFHW]

Feels like town!Eevee to me, but that is a light impression.

[mcmcsalot]

Feels like town!Eevee to me, but that is a light impression.

Yea I did that reread, unfortunately nothing much came up. He felt scummy in robz and townie on me day one, townie end of day where he agreed with me about gkrieg and did try to get that lynch through as opposed to Joseph (this while robz sat at 5 on Joseph, not willing to join eevee, myself and teproc despite voicing how mush gkrieg flip would help inform him of my role). His flipped reads of me and robz earlier today seemed a natural reaction to robz case, not forced. So yea seems like just a relatively low active(possibly due to jumping in) town!eevee. Townie of him as well to declare he didn’t shoot Faust, it’s the type of posts that if you Only have time to mention something briefly are at least informative.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

vote: ash

I've seen drunk typing and that's not that.

[ashersky]

What’s my motivation for faking it?

I definitely was typing fast and not correcting things on purpose — pretty funny upon review. 

But really, what’s the benefit to acting?  I’m curious to know.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

What’s my motivation for faking it?

I definitely was typing fast and not correcting things on purpose — pretty funny upon review. 

But really, what’s the benefit to acting?  I’m curious to know.

No idea, but I don't understand half of what you do. You mentioned wanting to be the D1 lynch if Robz hammered. Do you still feel that way?

[O]

I'm not convinced he's scum. My vote is still on him for rudeness. I'm thinking of moving to Galz. O's extreme defensiveness could be flailing scum, but I'm leaning towards reading it as outraged town.

Saying this entirely independently of game events -- I honestly don't know which part is the part that was rude to you, so I can't apologize very easily for it. Most of the flourish of my posts is written entirely facetiously, since that's the persona I had on this forum when I was younger.

If it's the "bastardization of proof" or "truly amazing deductive skills" none of that was intended to be serious at all in tone, or personally aimed at you (more aimed at post-event rationalization in general that happens on F.DS) and i'm sorry if it was poorly executed.

[O]

i don't see why Ash would fake the drunk typing.