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Author Topic: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (GAME OVER - EVIL PLAYERS WIN)  (Read 127137 times)

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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #450 on: December 27, 2017, 06:32:57 pm »

Thanks for the extension Arch.

vote: seanbean

don't really see a downside to this.

Well this is scummier than anything sean has done.

vote: DatSwan
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #451 on: December 27, 2017, 07:28:45 pm »

mcmc seems the towniest. I liked his thinking on the gkrieg-case, but there were other instances where I thought gkriek looked towny to me, so I'm not very excited about that. Joseph becoming a prodder of others when he is the leading wagon makes me not want to lynch him. ash seems in his own class in terms of scumminess, but his role is of course problematic. Angry O seems a teeny bit towny (I still like the fun O more). Slight scumread on seanbean, scum has more incentive to not post (although this level of not posting is probably not very alignment-indicative). Why are people townreading IDPTG? I have no opinion on him, and feel like I'm missing something. chairs seems slightly towny.

No opinion on Robz, Galzria, Teproc, O or DatSwan.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #452 on: December 27, 2017, 07:30:47 pm »

Ash being my only scumread is not great, but the way the day ran wasn't the most conducive for making substantive reads.

Can we get a good deadline scramble going? A lot can be achieved in a mere few hours when a lot of people get online at the same time and go crazy. With this many people alive, we could get really wild.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #453 on: December 27, 2017, 07:38:54 pm »

I actually did find Robz slightly towny for something, just forgot what it was. Some joke or otherwise controversial thing I think he would be more likely to self-censor if he was scum. Super thin reads, just like most of the others.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #454 on: December 27, 2017, 09:06:12 pm »

More time! That’s good. I will resume usual activity in the morning.

I read Andrew’s lack of activity as curious enough to be a possible scum indicator, but a replacement into higher activity Eevee (who I think is easier to read over the fullness of time anyway) makes me less inclined to lynch there.

Very hard to read seanbean. I believe he is an archetype friend who got roped in because he likes the theme? Could easily just be an overwhelmed newbie realizing mafia isn’t his thing. I think this is indeed slightly more likely to happen to a scum newbie though than a town one. I do not think seanbean is a terrible Lynch, on these grounds, although it has the drawback of being un-informational. I definitely like this lynch more than the Joseph one, now that I’ve thought about it though.

Gkrieg is a higher risk / higher reward lynch. It’s a risk because I’d rather not lost town gkrieg. But Mcmc is real sure of his case, and in these situations he ends up right more often than a lot of players. On the other hand I don’t find his play quite so unquestionably townie. A gkrieg flip would tell me more about mcmc, which is a boon.

vote: gkrieg for now

 
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #455 on: December 27, 2017, 09:07:09 pm »

Thanks for the extension Arch.

vote: seanbean

don't really see a downside to this.

Well this is scummier than anything sean has done.

vote: DatSwan

You think that wasn’t just clumsy phrasing?
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #456 on: December 27, 2017, 09:41:38 pm »

What would you learn of mcmc if gkrieg flipped scum/town?
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #457 on: December 27, 2017, 09:48:23 pm »

What would you learn of mcmc if gkrieg flipped scum/town?

If gkrieg flipped scum, mcmc would be town for certain. If gkrieg flipped town, I would really think mcmc is scum.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #458 on: December 27, 2017, 10:39:47 pm »

Saw the deadline extension and got drunk. I'll have a reads list by tomorrow.

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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #459 on: December 27, 2017, 11:09:28 pm »

Saw the deadline extension and got drunk. I'll have a reads list by tomorrow.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #460 on: December 28, 2017, 12:26:46 am »

mcmc seems the towniest. I liked his thinking on the gkrieg-case, but there were other instances where I thought gkriek looked towny to me, so I'm not very excited about that. Joseph becoming a prodder of others when he is the leading wagon makes me not want to lynch him. ash seems in his own class in terms of scumminess, but his role is of course problematic. Angry O seems a teeny bit towny (I still like the fun O more). Slight scumread on seanbean, scum has more incentive to not post (although this level of not posting is probably not very alignment-indicative). Why are people townreading IDPTG? I have no opinion on him, and feel like I'm missing something. chairs seems slightly towny.

No opinion on Robz, Galzria, Teproc, O or DatSwan.

Why is prodding people townie?  It’s like super easy to do as scum, and is more indicative of the player than anything.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #461 on: December 28, 2017, 12:42:14 am »

I meant prodding the town as a whole. I think scum, as a leading wagon, would be more likely to go after someone, hoping their partners would help fan the flames.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #462 on: December 28, 2017, 04:34:29 am »

Second time now that gkrieg misrepresents this argument as "prodding=town".

@Robz: Sure, but scum is generally clumsier when it comes to justifying votes.

At this point, I'd be happy to lynch Swan, gkrieg or sean. Could lynch Robz too, setting up (mis)lynches with the mcmc/gkrieg comment.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #463 on: December 28, 2017, 06:27:30 am »

Vote: Teproc
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #464 on: December 28, 2017, 06:41:41 am »

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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #465 on: December 28, 2017, 09:28:40 am »

Vote: Teproc

Why ?

Not sure about faust's reasoning, but for my part I heartily dispute the idea that I'm setting up subsequent lynches of any sort, and I resent your implication that that's what I'm doing. I said gkrieg being town would make mcmc scummier, and vice versa (well not vice versa... you know what I mean), and hey, that's absolutely true, can you even dispute it? You jumped on the comment and claimed it was scummy, when really it's just, you know, doing basic scum hunting. Of course a gkrieg flip says something about mcmc.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #466 on: December 28, 2017, 11:33:50 am »

Deadline day, 7.5 hrs to go I believe
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #467 on: December 28, 2017, 11:37:38 am »

Deadline day, 7.5 hrs to go I believe

Everyone is well aware. Why don't you react to some or any of the posts since your last visit?
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #468 on: December 28, 2017, 11:58:51 am »

Deadline day, 7.5 hrs to go I believe

Everyone is well aware. Why don't you react to some or any of the posts since your last visit?
Okay so I think Teproc is towny.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #469 on: December 28, 2017, 11:59:14 am »

There, I've contributed more in that 1 post than half the people playing have all game
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #470 on: December 28, 2017, 12:02:24 pm »

There, I've contributed more in that 1 post than half the people playing have all game

why is he towny
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #471 on: December 28, 2017, 12:13:02 pm »

There, I've contributed more in that 1 post than half the people playing have all game

why is he towny
I just think he is, which is enough for me to not want to lynch him D1.

We should lynch out of all the people who've done nothing all week.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #472 on: December 28, 2017, 12:14:22 pm »

There, I've contributed more in that 1 post than half the people playing have all game

why is he towny
I just think he is, which is enough for me to not want to lynch him D1.

We should lynch out of all the people who've done nothing all week.

who has done nothing all week except for the actual new guy?
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #473 on: December 28, 2017, 12:45:48 pm »

Vote: Teproc

Why ?

Not sure about faust's reasoning, but for my part I heartily dispute the idea that I'm setting up subsequent lynches of any sort, and I resent your implication that that's what I'm doing. I said gkrieg being town would make mcmc scummier, and vice versa (well not vice versa... you know what I mean), and hey, that's absolutely true, can you even dispute it? You jumped on the comment and claimed it was scummy, when really it's just, you know, doing basic scum hunting. Of course a gkrieg flip says something about mcmc.

It is not absolutely true, not even close. gkrieg flipping town would not make mcmc scummier to me in any way... town is on mislynches all the time.

Specifically, you saying "let's lynch gkrieg because mcmc believes in it and I think he's town but if he's wrong, well..." is super scummy. It's both absolving you of responsibility for the gkrieg lynch and totally setting up two mislynches : gkrieg and mcmc. Well, you know, that's assuming they're town, which who knows, but that's the way in which your thing was scummy.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #474 on: December 28, 2017, 12:46:25 pm »

Pushing very hard for a mislynch is more townie than scummy on day 1 I would say, in general.
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