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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #325 on: December 21, 2017, 05:32:02 pm »

Wait, no one can mess with voting, right?  Like Hated and doubles and such?

No.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #326 on: December 21, 2017, 05:33:26 pm »

Well that's more like town!ash.

I will point out that I have that list of PRs (and a list of the flavor of the people in the game obviously) in a Word document, and I'd expect someone like Galz to have that too.

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Time to redo Insomnia Mafia ? It doesn't work, man, I think you're town !

If it'll help, I think it's weird that seanbean (can we just call him Boromir ? Or Ned ?) claimed without hesitating at all, for a newbie.

"i think it's weird that someone new to a social game adopted the norms of the game after almost everyone else did"

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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #327 on: December 21, 2017, 05:39:20 pm »

Well, yeah. Without questioning it at all, I do find it weird.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #328 on: December 21, 2017, 05:41:58 pm »

I think you've been around too many thickheaded F.DS types
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #329 on: December 21, 2017, 05:43:55 pm »

I think you've been around too many thickheaded F.DS types

I'm not suggesting that I'd expect a newbie to outright refuse, it's more that I'd expect them to inquire about why we're doing what we're doing.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #330 on: December 21, 2017, 05:50:52 pm »

Happy to be the D1 mislynch.  Iíd like Mcmc to hammer me, please.

Robz is def a partner.  Iíd list Tep as probable.

Iím torn on Galz.  Iím feeling like 98% town there, which probably means definitely scum.  Plus, that handy list of possible fake claims seems like he just grabbed that from the scum qt.

Chairs is town.

You mean the one where I listed all non claimed characters? Yeah, we totally had that pretyped and ready to go in our scum QT lol.

If itís not, seems like a fairly incompetent or lazy scum team.

I love being on scum teams that know everybody's claims ahead of time so we post safe fake claim lists in our QT N0.

Well, obviously you didnít make the list on N0.

If we didn't make it N0, and it's D1, when did it get made?

The implication is Day chat, yes? Who lied about their character?
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #331 on: December 21, 2017, 05:56:40 pm »

Galz Iím curious why you find gkrieg townie, I was voting and pursuing an ash lynch for the exact reason you just mentioned plus some until gkrieg gave the weakest of paper defenses of ash and then backed it up with more unsubstantiated stuff. So it could be scum poorly defending scum partner or scum poorly defending a town member for cred

If I find Player A scummy, and Player B defends Player A, that does not mean I must find Player B scummy.

Gkrieg reads normal town Gkrieg to me. It gets him mislynched a lot. He's more under the radar as scum imo.

No but you should....
Player B as a town player cannot know that Player A is Town, therefore Player B is most likely skum....
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #332 on: December 21, 2017, 05:59:42 pm »

@Swan : I defend people as town all the time. As should you, and everyone else.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #333 on: December 21, 2017, 06:00:20 pm »

Meaning: player B defending player A does not make any of the two more likely to be scum in a vacuum.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #334 on: December 21, 2017, 06:03:44 pm »

Well that's more like town!ash.

I will point out that I have that list of PRs (and a list of the flavor of the people in the game obviously) in a Word document, and I'd expect someone like Galz to have that too.

vote:seanbean
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It is time.

Time to redo Insomnia Mafia ? It doesn't work, man, I think you're town !

If it'll help, I think it's weird that seanbean (can we just call him Boromir ? Or Ned ?) claimed without hesitating at all, for a newbie.

Disagree. I think a newbie is less likely to want to rock the boat, independent of alignment.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #335 on: December 21, 2017, 06:05:10 pm »

I think I can actively drive my mislynch here if I want.  Great feeling of freedom.

You know my favorite part of being mislynched?  Lording the mistakes over those players who thought they were so right.  Especially when I get the win anyway as long as Town recovers.

You understand that your mislynch could potentially result in 2 town deaths though...
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #336 on: December 21, 2017, 06:06:25 pm »

i am providing opinions, though, for the post-Mortem.

On Robz/Mcmc: I think robz jumped the gun in reacting to my fake counterclaim.  Heís not as focused as usual, saw town counter his partner, immediately voted one of the claimants.

But he forget his own rule ó second claimer is always telling the truth (as scum usually wants to get out in front and set the stage).  Town!robz just as easily misreacts to a fake counterclaim ó only scum!robz automatically ďknowsĒ which one is lying.

So thatís where they leaked info, in my opinion.  Just a simple slip from Robz that he had more info than he should about Mcmc.

So here you are saying that Robz is scum if mcmcsalot is scum?
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #337 on: December 21, 2017, 06:07:38 pm »

Well that's more like town!ash.

I will point out that I have that list of PRs (and a list of the flavor of the people in the game obviously) in a Word document, and I'd expect someone like Galz to have that too.

vote:seanbean

I don't like this vote for many reasons.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #338 on: December 21, 2017, 06:08:16 pm »

Well that's more like town!ash.

I will point out that I have that list of PRs (and a list of the flavor of the people in the game obviously) in a Word document, and I'd expect someone like Galz to have that too.

vote:seanbean

I don't like this vote for many reasons.

WHich are ?
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #339 on: December 21, 2017, 06:09:32 pm »

Both o and ash wanna join me voting gkrieg?

Why us two, specifically?

Side note: I think Robz can be scum in a town!mcmc world, but doubt it works the other way around.

I revise my hammer request as such.  Definitely Robz should unvote and promise to hammer.  If he insists on staying on my wagon in a non-hammer Slot, it just add further incontrovertible ďproofĒ that my theory is correct.

If you get to L-1, I am happy to unvote, let you vote for yourself, and then hammer you.

Deal.  Although, scummy cover plan, my man. 

If this comes to pass, no one steal his hammer!

Why would anyone steal this hammer?
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #340 on: December 21, 2017, 06:10:57 pm »

Well that's more like town!ash.

I will point out that I have that list of PRs (and a list of the flavor of the people in the game obviously) in a Word document, and I'd expect someone like Galz to have that too.

vote:seanbean
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It is time.

Time to redo Insomnia Mafia ? It doesn't work, man, I think you're town !

If it'll help, I think it's weird that seanbean (can we just call him Boromir ? Or Ned ?) claimed without hesitating at all, for a newbie.

I see your point, but I don't think it is that weird, given the rate at which people were claiming.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #341 on: December 21, 2017, 06:11:42 pm »

I think you've been around too many thickheaded F.DS types

I'm not suggesting that I'd expect a newbie to outright refuse, it's more that I'd expect them to inquire about why we're doing what we're doing.

It's pretty normal in social deduction games for people to start claiming D1.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #342 on: December 21, 2017, 06:12:52 pm »

Galz Iím curious why you find gkrieg townie, I was voting and pursuing an ash lynch for the exact reason you just mentioned plus some until gkrieg gave the weakest of paper defenses of ash and then backed it up with more unsubstantiated stuff. So it could be scum poorly defending scum partner or scum poorly defending a town member for cred

If I find Player A scummy, and Player B defends Player A, that does not mean I must find Player B scummy.

Gkrieg reads normal town Gkrieg to me. It gets him mislynched a lot. He's more under the radar as scum imo.

No but you should....
Player B as a town player cannot know that Player A is Town, therefore Player B is most likely skum....

So are you saying that I shouldn't defend people?  Obviously I don't know ash is town, but he is being incredibly like his town self.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #343 on: December 21, 2017, 06:14:05 pm »

Well that's more like town!ash.

I will point out that I have that list of PRs (and a list of the flavor of the people in the game obviously) in a Word document, and I'd expect someone like Galz to have that too.

vote:seanbean

I don't like this vote for many reasons.

WHich are ?

One is the fact that there is no space.  The second is that it had no relation to what you were talking about in the post.  Which makes it a naked vote for a newbie, which I don't like too much.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #344 on: December 21, 2017, 06:17:03 pm »

vote: seanbean

The relation was that I wanted to move away from ash because he was being townie. I like naked votes on newbies because I want to see how they react, but obviously since he's not here it ended up being a moot point.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #345 on: December 21, 2017, 06:17:33 pm »

I think you've been around too many thickheaded F.DS types

I'm not suggesting that I'd expect a newbie to outright refuse, it's more that I'd expect them to inquire about why we're doing what we're doing.

It's pretty normal in social deduction games for people to start claiming D1.

Not in my experience. At all.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #346 on: December 21, 2017, 06:18:50 pm »

vote: seanbean

The relation was that I wanted to move away from ash because he was being townie. I like naked votes on newbies because I want to see how they react, but obviously since he's not here it ended up being a moot point.

I think I like giving them some kind of reasoning behind the vote and see them defend themselves better.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #347 on: December 21, 2017, 06:19:06 pm »

I think you've been around too many thickheaded F.DS types

I'm not suggesting that I'd expect a newbie to outright refuse, it's more that I'd expect them to inquire about why we're doing what we're doing.

It's pretty normal in social deduction games for people to start claiming D1.

Not in my experience. At all.

I guess it depends on how intense your game group is.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #348 on: December 21, 2017, 06:21:17 pm »

so nobody else finds it suspicious that two people with very strong incentives to pull off a bus if both scum found themselves both encouraging one to hammer the other?
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #349 on: December 21, 2017, 06:22:44 pm »

Galz Iím curious why you find gkrieg townie, I was voting and pursuing an ash lynch for the exact reason you just mentioned plus some until gkrieg gave the weakest of paper defenses of ash and then backed it up with more unsubstantiated stuff. So it could be scum poorly defending scum partner or scum poorly defending a town member for cred

If I find Player A scummy, and Player B defends Player A, that does not mean I must find Player B scummy.

Gkrieg reads normal town Gkrieg to me. It gets him mislynched a lot. He's more under the radar as scum imo.

No but you should....
Player B as a town player cannot know that Player A is Town, therefore Player B is most likely skum....

So are you saying that I shouldn't defend people?  Obviously I don't know ash is town, but he is being incredibly like his town self.

I would never claim to tell anyone what to do. Defend away good sir.
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