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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #150 on: December 19, 2017, 06:35:08 pm »

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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #151 on: December 19, 2017, 07:25:50 pm »

The problem with this exercise is that scum weren't potentially forced into early claiming. I know people don't like lists or orders, but even using the signup list would've been better than whoever/whenever.

If scum haven't yet claimed or are waiting then they know what's safe to fake claim as it gets down to them.

Say, for example, Dr. Mario is in the game and is scum. They see Mario hasn't been claimed so they claim him. Each night they can feed pills to their scummates with relative impunity. If somebody tracks them they can claim to have been copping. Faking cop results down the line isn't all that difficult.

With that said it's pretty much too late to consider that anyway, so Fox, reporting for duty General.

Dangerous to do that with Falcon in the game. Am I vanilla? Am I the modified flavor cop that reveals all his results on death? Can they really afford to take that chance?

It was meant simply as an example, not an "only" possibility. I  originally was thinking in terms of scum having Vig but claiming something else, using it, and us having no easy way to confirm who had lied about their choice because they could just claim to be Vanilla later - but Vig has been claimed so that's ok.

My point was more that a late scum could choose which claim to go for, maximizing the potential for chaos. I didn't really look into which fake claims would be best for them and why - and it doesn't really matter. I'm just old man grumping that we didn't bother to minimize potential scum advantage. I don't think a little organization would've taken that much time out of our day.

That's fair. I think for me personally I just saw the mass flavor name claim coming and was like "If we get this out of the way sooner, we have more to talk about during D1 than normal, which is cool, and I just want to move on with the game anyway".

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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #152 on: December 19, 2017, 11:52:04 pm »

Here is the list of claims so far. Listed in order of the time claimed:

Chairs - Cpt. Falcon
Faust - Sheik
Teproc - Link
MCMC - Mr Game and Watch
Robz - Ice Climbers
IDPTG - Pichu
Joseph - Yoshi
GK - Mewtwo
Andrew - Ganandorf
Galz - Fox
Swan - Pikachu

Not yet claimed:
Ash (or he has. I don't know if it was a joke, but he counter claimed MCMC, who claimed MRGnW)
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #153 on: December 19, 2017, 11:59:22 pm »

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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #154 on: December 20, 2017, 12:07:48 am »

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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #155 on: December 20, 2017, 12:18:21 am »

Vote: Ash for obvious reasons.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #156 on: December 20, 2017, 01:25:23 am »

So, pending on hearing from ash, we know that mafia has no daychat? That is reassuring.

People I definitely want to leave alive today based on this are gkrieg and seanbean.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #157 on: December 20, 2017, 01:29:37 am »

Vote: Ash for obvious reasons.

Bad votes are bad for obvious reasons.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #158 on: December 20, 2017, 01:36:28 am »

Iím the real RB, Mcmc, Yuma will back me up.

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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #159 on: December 20, 2017, 01:42:01 am »

Iím the real RB, Mcmc, Yuma will back me up.

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I should have guessed. That's basically the most ash power ever.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #160 on: December 20, 2017, 02:07:04 am »

@Archetype: Can you confirm that alignment has been assigned independently of which players received which flavor names?
Any character could be any alignment
That doesn't really answer my question by the way, and the evasivaness of it makes me think it is absolutely possible that Arch grouped people with scummier roles into the scum team.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #161 on: December 20, 2017, 02:07:54 am »

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You didn't even put up a fight! I am disappointed.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #162 on: December 20, 2017, 02:08:56 am »

Vote: Ash for obvious reasons.

Bad votes are bad for obvious reasons.
Yeah, that guy should really go back to writing his book instead of hanging out here placing bad votes.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #163 on: December 20, 2017, 02:11:56 am »

Vote: Joseph
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #164 on: December 20, 2017, 02:15:26 am »

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You didn't even put up a fight! I am disappointed.

it looked like the time to put up a fight was 5 claims ago or so  :-\
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #165 on: December 20, 2017, 02:26:12 am »

We should note that there are 3 potential redirectors:

Mewtwo (gkrieg)
Fox (Galzria)
Pikachu (DatSwan)

We want to have Pichu's visiting announced each day. But gkrieg and Galzria can mess with that (also Pikachu, but we could probably figure that out). On the plus side, we have Marth and Link's 1-shot Tracker that could detect such a thing, so it would be dangerous for scum. We also have Yoshi who could block them.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #166 on: December 20, 2017, 02:29:23 am »

I am also kind of interested in how the bidding went, but I'm afraid that such discussion won't advance the game. Looking forward to seeing this after the game.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #167 on: December 20, 2017, 04:01:28 am »

So, pending on hearing from ash, we know that mafia has no daychat? That is reassuring.

People I definitely want to leave alive today based on this are gkrieg and seanbean.

1) i find it extremely unlikely there is no Samus in the game
2) if it is true .. def could be skum fake claim knowing they donít have dc so samus isnít in play
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #168 on: December 20, 2017, 04:12:48 am »

So, pending on hearing from ash, we know that mafia has no daychat? That is reassuring.

People I definitely want to leave alive today based on this are gkrieg and seanbean.

1) i find it extremely unlikely there is no Samus in the game
2) if it is true .. def could be skum fake claim knowing they donít have dc so samus isnít in play
Why would Samus lie?
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #169 on: December 20, 2017, 04:21:48 am »

So, pending on hearing from ash, we know that mafia has no daychat? That is reassuring.

People I definitely want to leave alive today based on this are gkrieg and seanbean.

1) i find it extremely unlikely there is no Samus in the game
2) if it is true .. def could be skum fake claim knowing they donít have dc so samus isnít in play
Why would Samus lie?


... see point 2.
Why would you now think this is a plausible idea?
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #170 on: December 20, 2017, 04:26:49 am »

So, pending on hearing from ash, we know that mafia has no daychat? That is reassuring.

People I definitely want to leave alive today based on this are gkrieg and seanbean.

1) i find it extremely unlikely there is no Samus in the game
2) if it is true .. def could be skum fake claim knowing they donít have dc so samus isnít in play
Why would Samus lie?


... see point 2.
Why would you now think this is a plausible idea?
I am confused. What is your conclusion?

Fake claims for scum, especially obvious ones like this, are dangerous when we could have a flavor cop. Of course chairs could be scum too.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #171 on: December 20, 2017, 04:32:50 am »

So, pending on hearing from ash, we know that mafia has no daychat? That is reassuring.

People I definitely want to leave alive today based on this are gkrieg and seanbean.

1) i find it extremely unlikely there is no Samus in the game
2) if it is true .. def could be skum fake claim knowing they donít have dc so samus isnít in play
Why would Samus lie?


... see point 2.
Why would you now think this is a plausible idea?
I am confused. What is your conclusion?

Fake claims for scum, especially obvious ones like this, are dangerous when we could have a flavor cop. Of course chairs could be scum too.

You are not confused .
Iím not saying it is a thing - or even very likely - Iím just saying that with the lack of claim order it is not a far fedtched idea (especially bc if it is true they do have dc) that they could of been towards the back of claim and be doing it.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #172 on: December 20, 2017, 04:46:08 am »

What is the 'it' they could be doing?!
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #173 on: December 20, 2017, 04:49:18 am »

I think I am definitely confused. Please don't tell me whether I'm confused or not, I think I am the best judge of that (... or am I? Maybe I am just confused...)
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #174 on: December 20, 2017, 06:57:35 am »

Well, I thionk it's relatively straightforward right ? If Samus was higher in Swan's list than what he got, it straight up means someone is lying, right ? Or am I missing something ?
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