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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #125 on: December 19, 2017, 10:48:57 am »

I am Mr. Game and Watch
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #126 on: December 19, 2017, 10:59:06 am »

Hi all. Just getting here. vote: Joseph for trying to mislynch me. Massclaim seems fine, but I think it gives scum more information. If it is good, why donít we do this ever game?  Just claim some random PR at the beginning for everyone to lock scum into a fake claim?
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #127 on: December 19, 2017, 11:01:37 am »

Hi all. Just getting here. vote: Joseph for trying to mislynch me. Massclaim seems fine, but I think it gives scum more information. If it is good, why donít we do this ever game?  Just claim some random PR at the beginning for everyone to lock scum into a fake claim?

The difference here is that flavor locks you into one power but doesnít guarantee you are a pr or vanilla.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #128 on: December 19, 2017, 11:11:57 am »

Hi all. Just getting here. vote: Joseph for trying to mislynch me. Massclaim seems fine, but I think it gives scum more information. If it is good, why donít we do this ever game?  Just claim some random PR at the beginning for everyone to lock scum into a fake claim?

Because that's not a comparable thing at all ? You could have multiple people claiming the same PR in the situation you're describing, among other things.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #129 on: December 19, 2017, 11:40:05 am »

I'm Ice Climbers.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #130 on: December 19, 2017, 11:41:10 am »

I'm Ice Climbers.

Go write your book!

I'm Pichu

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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #131 on: December 19, 2017, 12:34:11 pm »

I'm Yoshi
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #132 on: December 19, 2017, 01:25:03 pm »

I know realize we may have rushed into this claim poorly due to the oracle power.

Mafia can now pick the two strongest town prís and ask ďis X vanilla?Ē

In fact they can ask any yes/no question about the setup and if worded correctly they could probably get even more info.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #133 on: December 19, 2017, 01:25:45 pm »

I know now realize we may have rushed into this claim poorly due to the oracle power.

Mafia can now pick the two strongest town prís and ask ďis X vanilla?Ē

In fact they can ask any yes/no question about the setup and if worded correctly they could probably get even more info.
FTFM
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #134 on: December 19, 2017, 01:37:48 pm »

I know now realize we may have rushed into this claim poorly due to the oracle power.

Mafia can now pick the two strongest town prís and ask ďis X vanilla?Ē

In fact they can ask any yes/no question about the setup and if worded correctly they could probably get even more info.
FTFM

It probably does make the Oracle thing a little stronger, yeah. I still think it's worth doing.

mcmc is townie, btw.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #135 on: December 19, 2017, 01:45:34 pm »

@Archetype: Can you confirm that alignment has been assigned independently of which players received which flavor names?
Any character could be any alignment


Can scum use both their Oracle shots in the same night?
No. And they receive the results of their Oracle power at the end of the night that they used it in their QT
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #136 on: December 19, 2017, 01:47:58 pm »

Hi all. Just getting here. vote: Joseph for trying to mislynch me. Massclaim seems fine, but I think it gives scum more information. If it is good, why donít we do this ever game?  Just claim some random PR at the beginning for everyone to lock scum into a fake claim?

Because that's not a comparable thing at all ? You could have multiple people claiming the same PR in the situation you're describing, among other things.

You're right.  I'm Mewtwo!
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #137 on: December 19, 2017, 02:02:10 pm »

Hi all. Just getting here. vote: Joseph for trying to mislynch me. Massclaim seems fine, but I think it gives scum more information. If it is good, why donít we do this ever game?  Just claim some random PR at the beginning for everyone to lock scum into a fake claim?

Because that's not a comparable thing at all ? You could have multiple people claiming the same PR in the situation you're describing, among other things.

You're right.  I'm Mewtwo!

Well that helps.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #138 on: December 19, 2017, 03:22:14 pm »

vote: idptg

Scumslip?  At any rate, vote-worthy.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #139 on: December 19, 2017, 03:22:55 pm »

unvote

Misread, never mind.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #140 on: December 19, 2017, 03:23:30 pm »

I counterclaim momsalon.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #141 on: December 19, 2017, 03:28:24 pm »

I counterclaim momsalon.

Really? You sure you havenít mis-read your pm...
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #142 on: December 19, 2017, 03:30:53 pm »

I counterclaim momsalon.

Really? You sure you havenít mis-read your pm...

I mean Iím guessing this is a joke/call back to mean girls mafia but Iíd love for you to be serious and going for some very strange mafia plan.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #143 on: December 19, 2017, 04:07:41 pm »

I am Ganondorf.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #144 on: December 19, 2017, 04:12:44 pm »

vote: idptg

Scumslip?  At any rate, vote-worthy.

If you're going to do this, you might as well explain what you mean.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #145 on: December 19, 2017, 04:22:26 pm »

vote: idptg

Scumslip?  At any rate, vote-worthy.

If you're going to do this, you might as well explain what you mean.

Seeing as idp only has 2 posts Iím guessing itís the one about numbers of scum. Probably read something that he figured was worded from a scum perspective that he reread and realized was wrong.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (N0)
« Reply #146 on: December 19, 2017, 04:52:33 pm »

Vote Count 1.1

ashersky(1): chairs
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #147 on: December 19, 2017, 04:57:02 pm »

The problem with this exercise is that scum weren't potentially forced into early claiming. I know people don't like lists or orders, but even using the signup list would've been better than whoever/whenever.

If scum haven't yet claimed or are waiting then they know what's safe to fake claim as it gets down to them.

Say, for example, Dr. Mario is in the game and is scum. They see Mario hasn't been claimed so they claim him. Each night they can feed pills to their scummates with relative impunity. If somebody tracks them they can claim to have been copping. Faking cop results down the line isn't all that difficult.

With that said it's pretty much too late to consider that anyway, so Fox, reporting for duty General.
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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #148 on: December 19, 2017, 05:54:02 pm »

The problem with this exercise is that scum weren't potentially forced into early claiming. I know people don't like lists or orders, but even using the signup list would've been better than whoever/whenever.

If scum haven't yet claimed or are waiting then they know what's safe to fake claim as it gets down to them.

Say, for example, Dr. Mario is in the game and is scum. They see Mario hasn't been claimed so they claim him. Each night they can feed pills to their scummates with relative impunity. If somebody tracks them they can claim to have been copping. Faking cop results down the line isn't all that difficult.

With that said it's pretty much too late to consider that anyway, so Fox, reporting for duty General.

Dangerous to do that with Falcon in the game. Am I vanilla? Am I the modified flavor cop that reveals all his results on death? Can they really afford to take that chance?

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Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee (Day 1)
« Reply #149 on: December 19, 2017, 06:27:01 pm »

The problem with this exercise is that scum weren't potentially forced into early claiming. I know people don't like lists or orders, but even using the signup list would've been better than whoever/whenever.

If scum haven't yet claimed or are waiting then they know what's safe to fake claim as it gets down to them.

Say, for example, Dr. Mario is in the game and is scum. They see Mario hasn't been claimed so they claim him. Each night they can feed pills to their scummates with relative impunity. If somebody tracks them they can claim to have been copping. Faking cop results down the line isn't all that difficult.

With that said it's pretty much too late to consider that anyway, so Fox, reporting for duty General.

Dangerous to do that with Falcon in the game. Am I vanilla? Am I the modified flavor cop that reveals all his results on death? Can they really afford to take that chance?

It was meant simply as an example, not an "only" possibility. I  originally was thinking in terms of scum having Vig but claiming something else, using it, and us having no easy way to confirm who had lied about their choice because they could just claim to be Vanilla later - but Vig has been claimed so that's ok.

My point was more that a late scum could choose which claim to go for, maximizing the potential for chaos. I didn't really look into which fake claims would be best for them and why - and it doesn't really matter. I'm just old man grumping that we didn't bother to minimize potential scum advantage. I don't think a little organization would've taken that much time out of our day.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20
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