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[faust]

ADK: Please name a character form the show who is not in this game.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.1:

joth (1): MiX
gkrieg (1): ADK
ADK (2): 2.7, faust

Not Voting (12): Awaclus, jotheonah, Galzria, WCD, PPS, Datswan, EFHW, SA, Glooble, gkrieg, shraeye, pubby

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.  Day 1 ends at 6:00 a.m. on July 31.

[MiX]

I am 2 out of 10. I have never even heard of Falling Skies. I’m here because ashersky made promises.

I would be in favor of a mass number claim. I'm a 6.

"Bold move", as E said. How is this at all useful?

ADK: Please name a character form the show who is not in this game.

Do you know the flavor?

[WestCoastDidds]

Good morning, friends! It’s been too long.

I also know nothing about the flavor, but if it’s a show with a lot of dead kids, I’m not likely to start watching. Because although I have gray hair, I’m clearly a 17 year old girl and my tv tastes skew that way as well. Gilmore girls, Buffy, the Bold Type! So, EFHW, I’m seriously impressed that you’ve seen them all. You can be our resident expert!

I’ve read the top level of the wiki so have just the basics....like there seem to be Espheni bad guys and Dornia bad guys. 16 players is huge....the only other game I’ve played quite as large was multi-ball. So, I’m wondering how many sets of baddies there might be.

There are going to be a ton of folks to keep straight, but initially I’m interested in MiX having to vote.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Not the unexpected reaction

ADK: Please name a character form the show who is not in this game.

Matt Mason. I was, in fact, given a flavor fakeclaim, and I can see maybe see the utility in using it, but I figured that honesty would be the best policy.

What's your number?

[faust]

What's your number?

Why do you want to know?

[faust]

ADK: Please name a character form the show who is not in this game.

Do you know the flavor?

No.

[A Drowned Kernel]

What's your number?

Why do you want to know?

It's information, isn't it? I think that there's utility to making people commit to a number claim early.

[faust]

What's your number?

Why do you want to know?

It's information, isn't it? I think that there's utility to making people commit to a number claim early.

If you claim your role now, that's also information, but I doubt you would agree to that.

[A Drowned Kernel]

What's your number?

Why do you want to know?

It's information, isn't it? I think that there's utility to making people commit to a number claim early.

If you claim your role now, that's also information, but I doubt you would agree to that.

Sure, but the number information doesn't really tell scum anything (it's not a huge amount of information for town either but I would guess it's more useful)

What do you think of PPS's unprovoked claim of a 2?

[faust]

Sure, but the number information doesn't really tell scum anything (it's not a huge amount of information for town either but I would guess it's more useful)

And yet you have given no reason why I should believe that it's more useful for town than for scum.

What do you think of PPS's unprovoked claim of a 2?

Very PPS. Slight town.

[pingpongsam]

I watched every episode.

What promises did ash make? I didn't get any promises.

There is an expectation set that this will be extremely complicated. Also, if you know flavor your enjoyment will be enhanced which implies a baseline degree of enjoyment to begin with. I was promised complicated enjoyment which is basically the only kind of enjoyment I care for.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Sure, but the number information doesn't really tell scum anything (it's not a huge amount of information for town either but I would guess it's more useful)

And yet you have given no reason why I should believe that it's more useful for town than for scum.

How, what, and why people claim can help us read people.

[faust]

Sure, but the number information doesn't really tell scum anything (it's not a huge amount of information for town either but I would guess it's more useful)

And yet you have given no reason why I should believe that it's more useful for town than for scum.

How, what, and why people claim can help us read people.

Everything else they post can also help us read them.

[pubby]

ADK what is the name and role name of your fake flavor?

[jotheonah]

Good morning, friends! It’s been too long.

I also know nothing about the flavor, but if it’s a show with a lot of dead kids, I’m not likely to start watching. Because although I have gray hair, I’m clearly a 17 year old girl and my tv tastes skew that way as well. Gilmore girls, Buffy, the Bold Type! So, EFHW, I’m seriously impressed that you’ve seen them all. You can be our resident expert!

I’ve read the top level of the wiki so have just the basics....like there seem to be Espheni bad guys and Dornia bad guys. 16 players is huge....the only other game I’ve played quite as large was multi-ball. So, I’m wondering how many sets of baddies there might be.

There are going to be a ton of folks to keep straight, but initially I’m interested in MiX having to vote.

Gilmore Girls is my second favorite TV show (after DS9) and I’ve definitely thought about how to make Stars Hollow mafia before. Do I smell a really dumb co-mod collab?

[jotheonah]

No one strikes me as scummy so far but I’m pretty meh on the ADK votes. Setup talk/claim plans in place of RVS is standard ADK playbook and not alignment indicative.

[MiX]

What's your number?

Why do you want to know?

It's information, isn't it? I think that there's utility to making people commit to a number claim early.

I think this PoEs every flavor name, by how much I know about the setup. There seems to be a pattern in how each character's scored, so scum could deduce who has what based on their numbers. I'm pretty sure this helps scum more than town, but maybe not, I wouldn't know.

What do you think of PPS's unprovoked claim of a 2?

Very PPS. Slight town.

Last time PPS was PPS, he was super scummy but I couldn't call him out on it. Now I feel like always calling him out whenever he's PPS-y, which I presume is going to be always. TL;DR for me this is scummy.

There is an expectation set that this will be extremely complicated. Also, if you know flavor your enjoyment will be enhanced which implies a baseline degree of enjoyment to begin with. I was promised complicated enjoyment which is basically the only kind of enjoyment I care for.

Checks out with what I know of you.

ADK what is the name and role name of your fake flavor?

I too wish to know the answer to this question (specifically the "role name" part)

Joth not immediately saying that I'm submitting to the mix vs joth meta is town!joth.

Vote: pubby

[jotheonah]

I’m so very tired of that meta that I’m probably going to give you entirely too much benefit of the doubt.

[Glooble]

Hi. I didn’t know this started.

My gut is to say the number claiming is bad. It doesn’t really limit what scum can fake claim later, since the numbers are somewhat subjective- there’s a lot of wiggle room. And it could turn town players with high numbers into easy mislynch targets.

I’d need a better case for the utility of this info before I post my number.

[A Drowned Kernel]

ADK what is the name and role name of your fake flavor?

As mentioned above, Matt Mason. I wasn't given a fake role with it

[A Drowned Kernel]

@mix: regarding your poe point: what "pattern" are you talking about? How many data points do you have?

[pubby]

If there's no fake roles in this game, then I'm comfortable to say I'm an ally.

[MiX]

Hi. I didn’t know this started.

My gut is to say the number claiming is bad. It doesn’t really limit what scum can fake claim later, since the numbers are somewhat subjective- there’s a lot of wiggle room. And it could turn town players with high numbers into easy mislynch targets.

I’d need a better case for the utility of this info before I post my number.

It limits them heavily: they have to decide if they want their actual flavor role or not right at the start. But if we're doing this, we might as well get a full flavor claim, and I don't see that helping town more than scum.

Also I highly doubt scum would have fake claims with high numbers. So overall I agree with your conclusion but not the reasons.

@mix: regarding your poe point: what "pattern" are you talking about? How many data points do you have?

1, and without knowledge of the flavor any more than the wiki, I can deduce my character from the rating (of course that doesn't make any sense, but trust me, it's not hard to know one knowing the other). I believe scum can do this too.

If there's no fake roles in this game, then I'm comfortable to say I'm an ally.

Hmm yeah I'm also town... What do you mean fake roles?

[gkrieg13]

I am 2 out of 10. I have never even heard of Falling Skies. I’m here because ashersky made promises.

What do you mean 2 out of 10?

I know you're VLA and stuff, but this is supposed to be a complex game, so please read up on all relevant information that we are given.

I just wanted to make sure it was about his role and not something else.