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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2017, 10:32:16 pm »
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Lookout is garbage, go home, you're drunk

Also, Sea Hag is easily A.

2014 called, they want their relative perception of the power of various Dominion cards back.

Anyhow I’ll do my bitter rejection of these Seaside rankings with my own unjustified takes tomorrow, but for now: Tactician shouldn’t even be in B tier.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2017, 10:46:38 pm »
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Lookout is garbage, go home, you're drunk

Also, Sea Hag is easily A.

No and no.

Lookout is garbage, go home, you're drunk

Also, Sea Hag is easily A.
Anyhow I’ll do my bitter rejection of these Seaside rankings with my own unjustified takes tomorrow, but for now: Tactician shouldn’t even be in B tier.

WOAH. Now I will do my unjustified takes in response to your unjustified takes and it will devolve into a Bayless/Sharpe debate with namecalling, locked threads and burned apple pie.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2017, 10:54:11 pm »
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Lookout is good, but it's no Chapel, Ambassador, Steward, etc.

Outpost is great. A for me. Merchant Ship is actually worse than Navigator. I'm 100% confident in this.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2017, 11:07:33 pm »
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Lookout is good, but it's no Chapel, Ambassador, Steward, etc.

Well, it's no Chapel or Ambassador, but it's pretty much as good as Steward.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2017, 11:29:21 pm »
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Lookout is good, but it's no Chapel, Ambassador, Steward, etc.

Outpost is great. A for me. Merchant Ship is actually worse than Navigator. I'm 100% confident in this.

Navigator has to be better than Merchant Ship, yes.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2017, 11:30:40 pm »
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Lookout in the top tier is certainly controversial, but I understand the logic if you really REALLY value early trashing/sifting, but the one I don't understand is Explorer in a tier over Cutpurse and Merchant Ship. They're all iffy terminal payload, but cutpurse is cheaper with a useful early game attack, and merchant ship is obviously a duration, but explorer sticks you with a silver that you may or may not want, or possibly a gold that you may or may not want. What's the reasoning behind that distinction?
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2017, 11:59:44 pm »
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Smugglers in A?
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #57 on: November 16, 2017, 01:19:33 am »
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I'd bump Treasure Map up to D.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2017, 03:10:33 am »
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New update. There will be a lot of scandal in this one. I know you're all staring at the Lookout in S.

I remember a wise man once said that Lookout is the best trasher in the game, so I am not at all surprised.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2017, 08:52:23 am »
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New update. There will be a lot of scandal in this one. I know you're all staring at the Lookout in S.

I remember a wise man once said that Lookout is the best trasher in the game, so I am not at all surprised.

I'll probably drop Lookout to high A. I'll redo all these lists once I release all of them.

On another note, that was a voice in the wilderness, but Silver slightly overplayed how good it is. It's not Ambassador good, but man few cards are.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2017, 09:01:55 am »
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Sea Hag is certainly not S, but cursing is still very powerful.

And I would put Lookout in B. It's good, but not a premier trasher.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2017, 09:17:51 am »
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Lookout has a two problems that would make it not be tier S:

1) Too slow of a trasher. At best it trashes 1 card per turn.

2) It gets weaker as the game progresses, until it force trashes a good card from the deck at worst, to it just being a dead card in hand at best.

However, the sifting and trashing combo is great. A-/B+.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2017, 10:52:24 am »
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Salvager should be in B or even C. It's really not that good.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2017, 10:55:00 am »
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Salvager should be in B or even C. It's really not that good.

Oh man, you can't really ever skip this guy. The ability to blow up your deck for a couple extra bucks and just pileout and win is insane.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2017, 10:58:41 am »
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Do Nocturne next!
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2017, 11:08:46 am »
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Do Nocturne next!

You know what? I will.  :P
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2017, 11:30:20 am »
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Time to jump on the bandwagon. Here's the standard I'll be using:

S: Possibly broken.
A: Rarely skippable.
B: Good but sometimes skippable.
C: Okay.
D: Weak/niche.
F: Nearly useless.

Base:
S: Chapel
A: Witch, Artisan, Laboratory, Sentry,
B: Village, Militia, Throne Room, Smithy, Moneylender
C: Council Room, Festival, Merchant, Poacher, Cellar, Market, Vassal
D: Remodel, Bandit, Library, Gardens, Mine, Harbinger, Workshop, Moat
F: Bureaucrat
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #67 on: November 16, 2017, 11:43:36 am »
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Boom. Completely based off of barely any playing time. I'll change this up later, it's not official right now.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #68 on: November 16, 2017, 11:51:51 am »
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Do your rankings consider the heirlooms they come with or would those need to be ranked on their own?

Also you really think Pookah is unplayable? It seems strong to me.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #69 on: November 16, 2017, 11:52:48 am »
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I think you have accidentally switched up Pooka and Devil's Workshop.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #70 on: November 16, 2017, 12:03:16 pm »
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Hard to believe Conclave deserves an S rank when it's a cheaper Festival.  I would swap it with Monastery, which is surely almost as strong as Lookout.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #71 on: November 16, 2017, 12:09:20 pm »
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Oh, Nocturne cards.

I think if anything is S-tier here, it's Vampire. Necromancer in D is super strange, I think that is a solid A. I don't know how Conclave is S-tier, that's just some middle ground between Squire and Festival, and those are not strong cards.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #72 on: November 16, 2017, 01:07:08 pm »
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Lookout has a two problems that would make it not be tier S:

1) Too slow of a trasher. At best it trashes 1 card per turn.
The +1 Action is a big deal in this respect.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #73 on: November 16, 2017, 01:21:52 pm »
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Lookout has a two problems that would make it not be tier S:

1) Too slow of a trasher. At best it trashes 1 card per turn.
The +1 Action is a big deal in this respect.

The fact that it cycles three cards is an even bigger deal.
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Re: Seprix's Tier Lists For Every Dominion Set
« Reply #74 on: November 16, 2017, 01:40:28 pm »
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Lookout has a two problems that would make it not be tier S:

1) Too slow of a trasher. At best it trashes 1 card per turn.
The +1 Action is a big deal in this respect.

The fact that it cycles three cards is an even bigger deal.
Maybe true, but I did say "in this respect" - i.e. considering the specific objection that Lookout is too slow a trasher. Just buy more than one! (Lookout/Lookout is actually a pretty nice opening for thinning quickly and being pretty likely to hit $5 before second shuffle on a board where that's important.)
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