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[Awaclus]

Which makes me feel better about leaving my vote on Awaclus.

Leaving your vote on Awaclus should make you feel pretty bad.

[Swowl]

OK - this is the VC as it actually read directly prior to the time of people switching off of WW (#286):

Witherweaver (3): Xxraptorslayer96, Skumpy, DatSwan
Seprix (2): Witherweaver, SirClemens
stevanzzo (1): Seprix
Awaclus (1): faust
Faust (1): Awaclus

not voting (1): stevanzzo

With approx 10 minutes remaining in the day, both XXR and Skumpy switched to Seprix. Important to remember that they probably genuinely believed they were the L1 and hammer. My theory below makes sense (less weight, but sense still) even without that info.
Given that there are only 2 skum in the game, the normal "most likely D1 wagon has a skum on it" concept, doesn't really have to be a thing. Either way, here are some things I am thinking about:


First:
WW!Seprix doesn't make sense. Why would WW push for Seprix with 10 minutes left? 2/9 skum to start, he didn't need to do that, I just don't see that team anymore.

Second - If WW is Skum:

XXR and Skumpy - They switch, makes sense as both town wanting a lynch to go through and/or if its one of them and WW as skum protecting their partner.
Awaclus - Tried to vote for Seprix, was too late. Was on Town!Faust before that. If anything, I think that means if Awaclus is skum, then it is not Skum!Seprix
Faust - Was town, voted for Awaclus.
Seprix - Originally I was fixated on the fact that Seprix did not get on WW wagon, but in hindsight the only way my argument makes sense is if it was WW!Seprix, which I now do not believe to be a thing. Further, If Seprix is Skum and WW town, why not vote there. Really the only thing that makes sense is Town!Seprix.
SC - Switched to Seprix with last post of day. Currently on WW D2. Could be protecting skum buddy on day 1 and then bussing day 2. 
Stev - He was here. He posts in #281 that he was present, and still chooses not to cast a vote. This paints him as Town imo. Reasons - Skum!Stev looks at 2 Town wagons.. he of course votes for one of them. Or, Skum!Stev looks at one Town Wagon and one Skum Wagon, he of course votes to the Town Wagon. However, a Noob!Town!Stev doesn't want to make a bad choice and stays off. I find that very likely.

Third - If Seprix is Skum:
XXR and Skumpy - Makes no sense to me. If Seprix is Skum then they are both Town.
WW - Unless super weird pro play, I do not think WW can also be skum here.
Faust - Same as above.
Awaclus - Could be a fake late vote for town points, but I am not putting a lot of merit in that currently.
SC - Don't know why he would switch off of Town bus as skum onto partner as last post. If Seprix is skum, SC probably Town.
Stev - Same as above.

TLDR:
- Stev is probably Town.
- WW!Seprix very unlikely
- Seprix not switching as skum doesn't make sense if WW was not also skum.
- I think the most likely scenario at this point is WW + [Skumpy/XXR, SC, or Awaclus]
- If WW is town and Seprix is skum, leaning towards Seprix!Awaclus
- If they are both Town, leaning towards Skumpy/XXR!SC

Any which way I no longer like my Seprix vote best. So Vote: WW

[Xxraptorslayer96]

vote: WW

For a combination of reasons. I believe that this is L-1

[SirClemens]

vote: WW

For a combination of reasons. I believe that this is L-1

It is.

[schadd]

Vote count 2.3

Seprix (1): Awaclus
DatSwan (1): stevanzzo
Witherweaver (4): SirClemens, Seprix, DatSwan, Xxraptorslayer96
Awaclus (1): Skumpy

not voting (1) : Witherweaver

with 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 2 ends sunday, december 17th at 15:30 forum time.

mod notes

• i'll do anything for you, i'll do anything for you

mod quotes

[stevanzzo]

Works for me.

vote: WW

[Xxraptorslayer96]

That was hammer. He never said when he would be back around.

[SirClemens]

Works for me.

vote: WW

You should have given WW time to post before lynching him.

[schadd]

thread locked

[schadd]

D2 final vote count

Seprix (1): Awaclus
Witherweaver (5): SirClemens, Seprix, DatSwan, Xxraptorslayer96, stevanzzo
Awaclus (1): Skumpy

not voting (1) : Witherweaver

with 8 alive, it took 5 to lynch.

[schadd]

Witherweaver has been lynched!

he was a mafia goon!
gone is a ham of aaw..

night 2 starts.
thing 2's start

please get all night actions in by 13:00 forum time on sunday, december 17.

[schadd]

DatSwan has died in the night!
swaths that had dined gin die.

he was a vanilla townie!
wave hi at an en. is allow



day 3 begins!

Vote count 3.0

not voting (6) : SirClemens, Seprix, stevanzzo, Awaclus, Xxraptorslayer96, Skumpy

with 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. day 2 starts now and ends tuesday, december 26th at 13:30 forum time. thread unlorked.

mod notes

• deadline extended to fall after christmas stuff.

[Awaclus]

>deadline extended to fall after christmas stuff.
Then why does it fall during Christmas stuff?

does the 26th count as christmas? that's usually the day that my family farts around and doesn't do anything

[Awaclus]

Vote: Seprix

[SirClemens]

Vote: Seprix

I‘m willing to vote somewhere else except stevanzzo, I don‘t think scum quickhammers their partners so unprovoked.

[Xxraptorslayer96]

Vote: Seprix

[Awaclus]

does the 26th count as christmas? that's usually the day that my family farts around and doesn't do anything

Of course, it's the second Christmas day.

[stevanzzo]

vote: seprix

I could also be sold on Awaclus, everyone else would take some convincing due to the last lynch votes.

Also to note I believe that's L-1.

[stevanzzo]

actually, just read that again...unvote.

vote: Awaclus

Could be convinced to vote *Skumpy* same reasoning as above. (oops!)

[stevanzzo]

- I think the most likely scenario at this point is WW + [Skumpy/XXR, SC, or Awaclus]

I also think this is the line that got DatSwan killed.

[Skumpy]

actually, just read that again...unvote.

vote: Awaclus

Could be convinced to vote *Skumpy* same reasoning as above. (oops!)

Well it's too late now...

[Skumpy]

Why people love to vote 10 seconds in, I don't know. There's a reasonable chance Seprix is scum, in which case, this would be both the most amazing and least exciting game ever where all scum gets lynched before they get a chance to say anything against their wagons.

But even if he is scum...that was dumb; stop quickhammering.

I didn't have a chance to read back during the night, but my order based on memory would've been Awaclus, SC, Seprix, Stevanzzo, Raptor.

[Awaclus]

This was a brilliant day.

[Skumpy]

Assuming Seprix is town (gg if he's scum), quick spontaneous thoughts:

Raptor was on the correct wagon twice. That's one hell of a risk if he's scum. I would be amazed to see him go from 105 to this. I think I'm secretly hoping for it, tbh.

Awaclus doing his own thing as always. No bussing between WW and him at all. Carefully avoids mentioning WW basically altogether (from my recollection anyways). This would be strong scum signs for anybody besides Awaclus, but this is just Awaclus being Awaclus. That certainly does not clear him though.

Stevanzzo: Did quickhammer WW, but did he have any other options? It was 4 votes with 2 days left, was anybody else going to get a wagon? Probably not, I would've given the hammer myself not too long after. Then there's the hammer today, plus I think he would've happily hammered me D1 had he been given the option. Maybe he missed Swan's unvote and thought he was hammering? But does scum make themselves that obvious. Does newbie scum?

SirClemens: Does a partner WW follow a teammate's vote on me so quickly? I'd say no, but the initial vote on WW D2 is a comfy spot to be in, I don't think he's expecting WW to get lynched as fast as he did (I wasn't anyways)

If the game's not over, I'm probably dead tonight (or perhaps Raptor). Best of luck to the last of the townsfolk in that case. (I think I'm just saying this all because I'll feel really bad if both scum get lynched without my help after I didn't push WW hard enough day 1, and I selfishly want to be in the MVP hunt. But it'd still be a win in my book!)

[Skumpy]

>deadline extended to fall after christmas stuff.
Then why does it fall during Christmas stuff?

does the 26th count as christmas? that's usually the day that my family farts around and doesn't do anything

BTW Awaclus: How do you NOT make a joke about deadline being in September 2018?