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Re: Empty the Supply in 1 Turn
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2018, 04:44:59 pm »
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I wanted to do this for a while and finally I had time. I visualized mith's awesome solution. Go upvote his post.

Thanks for the beautiful illustration. I've requested an "order starting deck in solo mode" feature so that (if they implement it) you'll never need to go through this again: http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=2881.msg12749#msg12749
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Re: Empty the Supply in 1 Turn
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2018, 07:24:24 am »
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You are right Forest Gift doesn't work, I missed that part. But Mountain+Earth Gift works and should easily solve this issue.
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Re: Empty the Supply in 1 Turn
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2018, 02:45:02 pm »
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Awesome, thanks Qvist. (If I had known you were making one, I would have pointed out the game ID for the perfect hand on turn 2, to save you all those clicks...)
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Re: Empty the Supply in 1 Turn
« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2018, 06:00:46 pm »
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I wanted to do this for a while and finally I had time. I visualized mith's awesome solution. Go upvote his post.

Thanks for the beautiful illustration. I've requested an "order starting deck in solo mode" feature so that (if they implement it) you'll never need to go through this again: http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=2881.msg12749#msg12749

BTW, this was already requested here: http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=2593.0 Maybe Stef will give us an update.
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Re: Empty the Supply in 1 Turn
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2018, 07:04:10 am »
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You are right Forest Gift doesn't work, I missed that part. But Mountain+Earth Gift works and should easily solve this issue.

Yes, although it changes the payload from "infinite money and buys" into "gain and draw all cards which have neither potion nor debt in their costs (and only those)".

It's a very small difference, and it's definitely not a problem, because some of the cards you can gain are King's Court and Lurker which gain some copies of the only not-merely-coin-costing card (Overlord), and some of the others cards are treasures which help you pay for the Overlords. (Travelling Fair gets you the buys you need.)

There's one bit either missing or implicit in what you said: since The Earth's Gift decreases your hand size, you also need something to increase it, such as The Sea's Gift, and that something needs to be repeatable, which it is in the case of The Sea's Gift.

Using The Swamp's Gift to gain Will-o'-Wisps and The Wind's Gift to sift them into hand and the Will-o'-Wisps to draw (KC'd Bridges help) would work if there was enough Will-o'-Wisps to gain; infinite would be great, but a mere billion—or just a thousand or so, I think—would surely be enough. Alas, there are not enough Will-o'-Wisps, so this is not (sufficiently) repeatable.

TL;DR: you are right, given that a particular true assumption is true.
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Re: Empty the Supply in 1 Turn
« Reply #55 on: September 28, 2018, 12:37:20 pm »
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I haven't seen anything in the Renaissance previews that helps here, though of course I may be missing something. (Scholar can probably be used in place of Library, but without much/any benefit.)

I had at first thought Innovation, maybe, stack the deck with your loop cards and then buy Innovation and a draw card. But it's first time in your turn, not first time after you buy the project.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2018, 01:04:34 pm by mith »
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Re: Empty the Supply in 1 Turn
« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2018, 08:21:52 pm »
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Ok, this should do it (unless I've made another dumb mistake somewhere), with xnor's Goat setup (from the Win in 1 thread)
Renaissance brushed up that combo. Go upvote his post!


Kingdom: Lurker(l), Pixie, Tracker, Watchtower(w), Fortress(f), Priest(p), Villa(v), Pooka
Events: Advance, Travelling Fair
Others: Curse(c), Overgrown Estate(e), Goat(g), Hovel(h), Necropolis(n), Pouch(p), Cursed Gold(u)

Hand: upgen
Deck: [4Ch]
Play: u (c), p
Buy: Travelling Fair, Lurker, Advance (n -> v)
$0, 1 Buy left

Hand: vge
Deck: l[4Ch]
Play: g (e -> l)
Buy: Advance (v -> v)
$1 left

Hand: vl
Deck: [4Ch]
Play: l (f), v
Buy: Advance (f -> v)
$2 left
repeat this 3 times

Hand: vf
Deck: [4Ch]
Play: v
Buy: 3 Travelling Fairs, 4 Advances (f -> p, 2w, v)
$0 left

Hand: vf
Deck: wwp[4Ch]
Play: v, f, w, p (h), 3C
Buy: Travelling Fair, f (reveal w to trash)
$2, 1 Buy

Buy: Travelling Fair, Advance (f -> w)
$2, 1 Buy

Buy: Travelling Fair, 2 Advances (f -> p, v)
$0, 0 Buy

Play: v, w, p (c), C
$6, 1 Buy

Buy: Travelling Fair, Advance (f -> anything)
$8, 1 Buy
loop


EDIT: miscounting fixed
« Last Edit: September 29, 2018, 07:45:52 am by majiponi »
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