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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2050 on: December 15, 2017, 11:03:41 am »

Vote: Dylan
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2051 on: December 15, 2017, 11:04:00 am »

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2052 on: December 15, 2017, 11:05:24 am »

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2053 on: December 15, 2017, 11:08:10 am »

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2054 on: December 15, 2017, 11:17:02 am »

Vote Count 5.1

Dylan32 (2): EFHW, iguanaiguana

Not Voting (5): Haddock, SpaceAnemone, chairs, JaketheBaseballGod22, Dylan32

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 5 ends December 20 at 3:30 pm forum time.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2055 on: December 15, 2017, 11:44:45 am »

Happy to vote Dylan.

Do we want to try to direct iguana's kill tonight, before we lynch?
Not sure it's the right thing, just throwing it out there.
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2056 on: December 15, 2017, 11:45:31 am »

I just really don't want scum to block me :/
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2057 on: December 15, 2017, 11:45:43 am »

I would cry.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2058 on: December 15, 2017, 11:47:55 am »

Hi all! Sorry I'm being quiet. There's no rush to lynch right now, is there? The deadline is the 20th, which is Wednesday. I have virtually no free time before Monday and Tuesday evenings :-(

I'd like to have the chance to look at a few more possible game configurations and then do the re-reading before I vote. This is my last game-day before the inevitable zombie decay. Some of the things Haddock has been pushing ought to be double-checked, particularly as there seem to be some where he's got them wrong in spite of assuring everyone that he's got a good excel sheet with promising explanations he's not actually posted.. it's probably all legit, but I feel paranoid, and there's definitely time to indulge that a little.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2059 on: December 15, 2017, 11:49:57 am »

Hi all! Sorry I'm being quiet. There's no rush to lynch right now, is there? The deadline is the 20th, which is Wednesday. I have virtually no free time before Monday and Tuesday evenings :-(

I'd like to have the chance to look at a few more possible game configurations and then do the re-reading before I vote. This is my last game-day before the inevitable zombie decay. Some of the things Haddock has been pushing ought to be double-checked, particularly as there seem to be some where he's got them wrong in spite of assuring everyone that he's got a good excel sheet with promising explanations he's not actually posted.. it's probably all legit, but I feel paranoid, and there's definitely time to indulge that a little.

Sure. Should be fun to read anyway. Unvote.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2060 on: December 15, 2017, 12:35:57 pm »

Hi all! Sorry I'm being quiet. There's no rush to lynch right now, is there? The deadline is the 20th, which is Wednesday. I have virtually no free time before Monday and Tuesday evenings :-(

I'd like to have the chance to look at a few more possible game configurations and then do the re-reading before I vote. This is my last game-day before the inevitable zombie decay. Some of the things Haddock has been pushing ought to be double-checked, particularly as there seem to be some where he's got them wrong in spite of assuring everyone that he's got a good excel sheet with promising explanations he's not actually posted.. it's probably all legit, but I feel paranoid, and there's definitely time to indulge that a little.
Fine to wait. But I'm flying to new Zealand tomorrow so will be vla for a couple of days.

I'm a little indignant. I haven't gotten anything wrong since my excel spreadsheet was made yesterday, whereas, if we're comparing, you have made multiple errors.

Happy for you to double check things.

But of course, my main point right now is that one of chairs/Dylan/Efhw is scum (that's based on n4s results alone, trivially), and n1 makes chairs town OR makes him scum AS WELL as dylan/Efhw.  Which doesn't require much analysis.

What else have I been "pushing"?
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2061 on: December 15, 2017, 12:38:05 pm »

Yes actually, though this isn't exactly relevant, I'd really like an example of one mistake I've made other than that solution which you proceed to analyse incorrectly ALSO.

Miffed.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2062 on: December 15, 2017, 12:38:21 pm »

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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2063 on: December 15, 2017, 12:41:47 pm »

Yes actually, though this isn't exactly relevant, I'd really like an example of one mistake I've made other than that solution which you proceed to analyse incorrectly ALSO.
This solution was also BEFORE my excel spreadsheet and is completely irrelevant anyway because it goes against igus claim. (Which I entirely believe).
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2064 on: December 15, 2017, 12:42:00 pm »

It's a pretty complex puzzle. I think everyone has made at least one mistake with it....
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2065 on: December 15, 2017, 12:42:32 pm »

Really I think Space wants a chance just to try to solve it before the solution is made public, no?
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2066 on: December 15, 2017, 05:02:57 pm »

I mean. Fine. I'm just miffed that everyone keeps assuming I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2067 on: December 15, 2017, 05:08:31 pm »

I mean. Fine. I'm just miffed that everyone keeps assuming I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I'm not assuming -you- have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm assuming we're -all- talking out our fartholes.

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2068 on: December 15, 2017, 05:10:43 pm »

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2069 on: December 15, 2017, 05:10:56 pm »

So Dylan just disappeared :/
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2070 on: December 15, 2017, 06:57:26 pm »

So Dylan just disappeared :/
I wonder why...

Wait no didn't he say he was via or something?
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2071 on: December 15, 2017, 11:02:44 pm »

No, I didn't say I was VLA, but I did say this was a busier work week than normal. Reading last few pages now.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2072 on: December 16, 2017, 12:12:03 am »

Ok, so y'all are being played. I will gladly admit, I was hoping to be able to prove scum without actually claiming last night's action because I wanted to scum to have to worry about it the next night, but I did use the shield last night. I had Haddock, myself, EFHW, and chairs in 1 group, and e, iguana, Jake, and Space in the other. If I had wanted to maximize chances of protecting someone, I would have just had me, haddock, and e in one and everyone else in the other, but e had done so little for an IC that I decided to go for something that would maximize information.

So at this point, it's pretty clear that either Haddock is really town, or he's truly a mafia mastermind (pun completely intended).  I know I'm town, and I believe chairs' claim since I was blocked then night he claimed to JK me. So from that group, if a kill went through on my side, I would have been convinced it was EFHW.

On the other side, I had the IC and Space (also IC but also not going to be killed). Iguana had claimed a killing ability and scummy end of day, but I thought he would be more likely to target Haddock. Also had Jake over there. WW did have a innocent result, so if a kill went through on that side, I knew it would be one of those iguana or Jake with odds leaning iguana.

However, it is still possible that Jake is a Godfather, here's why. Earlier, someone (WW?) mentioned the possibility of Jake being the Big Bad from RMM11. That role could switch from Godfather to ninja when they chose, (likely N3 here). That would explain the change in results there and Jake thinking he was able to claim basically VT. He didn't do anything the first couple or few nights letting his team do it, then switched to ninja after he had already been copped to carry out the kills stealthily.

Basically, either iguana is telling the truth and Jake killed e, or iguana is lying about who he tried to kill knowing no other tracking (watching) roles are left.  Also, chairs wouldn't have actually been able to target iguana, because shield. So I'm only either voting Jake or iguana here.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2073 on: December 16, 2017, 04:03:56 am »

Wasn't Dylan jailkept last Night?
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2074 on: December 16, 2017, 07:17:02 am »

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