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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2100 on: December 18, 2017, 04:56:10 pm »

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2101 on: December 18, 2017, 04:57:12 pm »

Yup. Holding off for Space to have time to talk, but will vote for Dylan if needed.

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2102 on: December 18, 2017, 08:07:03 pm »

Hold up. You mean to tell me that in spite of the fact that I have proof positive that either iguana or Jake killed e, I'm still the lynch here? Well done town. And no I have not used the talk with dead power yet. I'm not at all confident in my LYLO ability having blown it in M100, so I was saving it for there to ask someone like Ash what they thought. Besides, the shield seemed like the more important ability to use last night.

Vote: Jake
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2103 on: December 18, 2017, 08:08:28 pm »

Hold up. You mean to tell me that in spite of the fact that I have proof positive that either iguana or Jake killed e, I'm still the lynch here? Well done town. /s And no I have not used the talk with dead power yet. I'm not at all confident in my LYLO ability having blown it in M100, so I was saving it for there to ask someone like Ash what they thought. Besides, the shield seemed like the more important ability to use last night.

Vote: Jake

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2104 on: December 18, 2017, 08:18:58 pm »

I dunno man. You really stuck the IC alone on the side with your scum reads?
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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2105 on: December 18, 2017, 08:19:28 pm »

But not chairs?
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2106 on: December 18, 2017, 09:31:52 pm »

Hold up. You mean to tell me that in spite of the fact that I have proof positive that either iguana or Jake killed e, I'm still the lynch here? Well done town. /s And no I have not used the talk with dead power yet. I'm not at all confident in my LYLO ability having blown it in M100, so I was saving it for there to ask someone like Ash what they thought. Besides, the shield seemed like the more important ability to use last night.

Vote: Jake

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You don't have proof positive of who killed e. Just your word that you really used that action last night.

What does the /s mean?

I still think you would have opened the day with this information, not saved it for a last resort claim.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2107 on: December 18, 2017, 10:27:41 pm »

I don't understand faust's response, there, frankly. But made no difference anyway.

Meh. I still believe Dylan is scum. It's him or chairs.
I'd be totally fine with a jake lynch too, fwiw. It's only WW's thing that saves him.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2108 on: December 18, 2017, 10:28:57 pm »

I will hammer when I wake up tomorrow morning. Ie in about 15 hours.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2109 on: December 18, 2017, 11:34:29 pm »

I don't understand faust's response, there, frankly. But made no difference anyway.

Meh. I still believe Dylan is scum. It's him or chairs.
I'd be totally fine with a jake lynch too, fwiw. It's only WW's thing that saves him.

The Cop result from the maybe-Naive Cop?

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2110 on: December 19, 2017, 12:34:54 am »

I don't understand faust's response, there, frankly. But made no difference anyway.

Meh. I still believe Dylan is scum. It's him or chairs.
I'd be totally fine with a jake lynch too, fwiw. It's only WW's thing that saves him.

The Cop result from the maybe-Naive Cop?

Naive means "always-gets-innocent" right?
So. WW was not naive because he saw Awa as scum. If I remember his claim correctly.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2111 on: December 19, 2017, 02:12:20 am »

Ah, good point.

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2112 on: December 19, 2017, 11:22:51 am »

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2113 on: December 19, 2017, 01:36:10 pm »

Enough.  I have to go.

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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2114 on: December 19, 2017, 01:38:11 pm »

Okay, I can get behind the Dylan lynch now!

I've successfully found somewhere just over a thousand solutions that work with the assumption that scum has some x-shot framing/godfathering, keep the known towns red, make the hypothesized scum team the same colour as each other, and make Iguana a third colour. Allowing possibilities that one of the already-flipped scum could secretly have been a permanent godfather was also factored in, giving about twice as many possible solutions. But all of these solutions only searched over about one third of the solution space.. I don't think there's time to do the full set without another few hours.

My scum-to-town ordering based on available possibilities is
Dylan
Chairs
Jake
EFHW
Haddock

Obviously Iguana is some kind of third faction anyway, but I think we have a scum problam to deal with first, so it's up to the rest of you how to resolve the Iguana dilemma in future days!

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2115 on: December 19, 2017, 01:41:33 pm »

@Haddock, really sorry for not having more time to have crunched things earlier!

Part of my idea was to watch how Dylan behaved, and I think we saw all that we needed to see in his lack of robust response... I really do think it's much more uncomfortable to be a caught scum left hanging than to be mis-accused town (having been the latter on a lot of occasions now!), and I really wanted to be more sure before rushing an early lynch just because there was partial agreement in-thread.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2116 on: December 19, 2017, 02:19:40 pm »

Pretty confident that was the hammer.

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2117 on: December 19, 2017, 03:29:19 pm »

Day 5 Final Vote Count 5.2

Dylan32 (4): EFHW, iguanaiguana, JaketheBaseballGod22, Haddock

Not Voting (3): SpaceAnemone, chairs, Dylan32

With 6 alive, it took 4 to lynch.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2118 on: December 19, 2017, 03:34:12 pm »

Dylan32 has been lynched! They were Big Bad (from RMM11), the Mafia Godfather/Ninja!

Town wins! So does iguanaiguana, who was Michonne (from RMM32), the Ruthless Survivor with a Heart!
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2119 on: December 19, 2017, 03:36:52 pm »

Yay!
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2120 on: December 19, 2017, 03:37:16 pm »

Mafia QT
Traitors' QT
Neighborhood QT

Speccy
Mod QT

Will post individual QTs some time tomorrow probably.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2121 on: December 19, 2017, 03:38:04 pm »

iguanaiguana is MVP!
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2122 on: December 19, 2017, 03:38:42 pm »

Iguana gotta get MVP? The redirect and shot was clutch.
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 5)
« Reply #2123 on: December 19, 2017, 03:38:57 pm »

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Game over!)
« Reply #2124 on: December 19, 2017, 03:47:55 pm »

Good game everyone. I think scum was slightly underpowered, and schadd dying the way he did certainly didn’t help us at all.
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