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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #475 on: November 08, 2017, 07:23:19 pm »

Who are we lynching? Not me? Good
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #476 on: November 08, 2017, 07:23:55 pm »

Ok, so my low-activity comparison was kicked off by faust referring to my "supposed" VLA. I was really VLA, as whoever noticed that I literally wasn't on f.ds for 3 days has established. However, IF faust doubted that I was actually VLA--as his wording implied--I was saying that low activity would be more likely to point to me as being town than scum based on past games, not that my VLA should be towny. I definitely could have said that more clearly, but whatever.

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And for what it's worth faust, we were partners in my first scum game. If a scum is ever going to have a hard time making up reads, it would be their first one, right? It would, and yet that wasn't the case for me. I made it to the end of the game and not once did people think I was having a hard time making up reads. Why you might ask? Because for me as scum, I know that I am free to say whatever the heck I want with just a little bit of reasoning and there is no reason my reads have to be right or not. As town, reads need to be right more than they are wrong if town is going to win. So as town I feel more pressure to have stuff that backs up my reads and end up struggling to figure out what to say.
I'm confused. Who said you have a hard time making up reads?

I was thinking someone mentioned it, but I guess not. However, after you ask that, LL went there.

guys, I am sorry for super inactivity compared to my usual play. I got fired and now I am running in huge circles trying to find a job asap, having two interviews tomorrow and making assignments for interviews. There is a nonzero chance I will get one of the jobs tomorrow and fully will be here. Sorry again. Still fine with Dylan vote especially after

I'm trying to find a reason to vote for someone else, but nothing is sticking out.

super scummy. I feel very same when I am scum.

This actually makes LL feel super bad to me since I had literally already said that isn't at all how I feel as scum, and yet he felt he needed more justification for his vote on me, so he said that. It may not happen, but is it possible for enough of us to Vote: LL in time?

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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #477 on: November 08, 2017, 07:25:01 pm »

Probably not. Didn't realize everyone had left him...
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #478 on: November 08, 2017, 07:25:39 pm »

There are currently 6 online total, so not impossible if everyone went there.
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #479 on: November 08, 2017, 07:26:20 pm »

IDPTG is still the place to be
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #480 on: November 08, 2017, 07:27:06 pm »

Willing to help lynch people. I will be around until deadline
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #481 on: November 08, 2017, 07:27:12 pm »

IDPTG is still the place to be

Why though? My gut was actually reading him as more towny than usual.
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #482 on: November 08, 2017, 07:27:55 pm »

So it's 5-4, with Dylan, 2.7, Raptor, and IDPTG missing.

I don't expect the first two to be showing up before the deadline based on their activity,

I never miss a deadline
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #483 on: November 08, 2017, 07:28:36 pm »

So it's 5-4, with Dylan, 2.7, Raptor, and IDPTG missing.

I don't expect the first two to be showing up before the deadline based on their activity,

I never miss a deadline

Ironic that he called out the 2 people that showed up :p
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #484 on: November 08, 2017, 07:30:04 pm »

I'm around. Frankly, I think both of the leading wagons probably on town, so I'm not thrilled about voting for Andrew. I'm not even sure if voting Andrew would give us more information than just getting rid of me, unless of course he is actually scum... Is there anyone who is actually convinced that Andrew is really scum, or is it just sort of a low info, better than nothing wagon?
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I never actually said it, and I know this is about to get really Skummy, but so be it:
Andrew's not my top scum pick at this point, nor has be been for most of the day. Real top pick is staying a secret. Of you, faust and him, he was the best option until my delirious brain working on like 2 hours of sleep from yesterday decided to vote for you by a narrow margin. I'm not sure why you think he's town, there's been a push/pull between you and him. Could be scum not caring who gets lynched, could be scum trying to get their guy to stay alive. Or could be faust all along. Now that I think about it, it probably is, but it's not an option anymore.

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It's either you, Andrew, or nobody.
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #485 on: November 08, 2017, 07:30:32 pm »

So it's 5-4, with Dylan, 2.7, Raptor, and IDPTG missing.

I don't expect the first two to be showing up before the deadline based on their activity,

I never miss a deadline

Ironic that he called out the 2 people that showed up :p

XX showed up too. Didn't vote though.
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #486 on: November 08, 2017, 07:31:31 pm »

I'm around. Frankly, I think both of the leading wagons probably on town, so I'm not thrilled about voting for Andrew. I'm not even sure if voting Andrew would give us more information than just getting rid of me, unless of course he is actually scum... Is there anyone who is actually convinced that Andrew is really scum, or is it just sort of a low info, better than nothing wagon?
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I never actually said it, and I know this is about to get really Skummy, but so be it:
Andrew's not my top scum pick at this point, nor has be been for most of the day. Real top pick is staying a secret. Of you, faust and him, he was the best option until my delirious brain working on like 2 hours of sleep from yesterday decided to vote for you by a narrow margin. I'm not sure why you think he's town, there's been a push/pull between you and him. Could be scum not caring who gets lynched, could be scum trying to get their guy to stay alive. Or could be faust all along. Now that I think about it, it probably is, but it's not an option anymore.

PPE many: It's too late for that now...
It's either you, Andrew, or nobody.

What push or pull between the two of us has there been? Like between people going back and forth between our wagons?
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #487 on: November 08, 2017, 07:32:51 pm »

IDPTG is still the place to be

Why though? My gut was actually reading him as more towny than usual.

The case on raptor is bad. Original Gut read. He actually was against Andrew before it was cool to lynch Andrew then switched to raptor. So, yeah. Just feeling like a decent lynch
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #488 on: November 08, 2017, 07:35:23 pm »

I mostly think town!IDPTG would have switched back to Andrew.

No lynching is good for scum, voting for someone that no one else is voting for is scummy (looking at you, e)
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #489 on: November 08, 2017, 07:35:44 pm »

IDPTG is still the place to be

Why though? My gut was actually reading him as more towny than usual.

The case on raptor is bad. Original Gut read. He actually was against Andrew before it was cool to lynch Andrew then switched to raptor. So, yeah. Just feeling like a decent lynch

I generally don't vote for people for making a bad case. I've seen as many bad cases come from town as scum, so I'm not sure that is alignment indicative at all. The timing of the switch off of Andrew is interesting though. I didn't notice that before. Well, that at least makes me feel a bit better about the possibility of having to vote andrew.

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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #490 on: November 08, 2017, 07:37:03 pm »

I'm around. Frankly, I think both of the leading wagons probably on town, so I'm not thrilled about voting for Andrew. I'm not even sure if voting Andrew would give us more information than just getting rid of me, unless of course he is actually scum... Is there anyone who is actually convinced that Andrew is really scum, or is it just sort of a low info, better than nothing wagon?
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I never actually said it, and I know this is about to get really Skummy, but so be it:
Andrew's not my top scum pick at this point, nor has be been for most of the day. Real top pick is staying a secret. Of you, faust and him, he was the best option until my delirious brain working on like 2 hours of sleep from yesterday decided to vote for you by a narrow margin. I'm not sure why you think he's town, there's been a push/pull between you and him. Could be scum not caring who gets lynched, could be scum trying to get their guy to stay alive. Or could be faust all along. Now that I think about it, it probably is, but it's not an option anymore.

PPE many: It's too late for that now...
It's either you, Andrew, or nobody.

What push or pull between the two of us has there been? Like between people going back and forth between our wagons?

Sure, but also like it's been up in the air who's going to get lynched. The wagons have been accelerating at different paces. Or it's felt that way anyways. I don't know what I'm saying, maybe when I'm more lucid.

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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #491 on: November 08, 2017, 07:38:10 pm »

IDPTG is still the place to be

Why though? My gut was actually reading him as more towny than usual.

The case on raptor is bad. Original Gut read. He actually was against Andrew before it was cool to lynch Andrew then switched to raptor. So, yeah. Just feeling like a decent lynch

I generally don't vote for people for making a bad case. I've seen as many bad cases come from town as scum, so I'm not sure that is alignment indicative at all. The timing of the switch off of Andrew is interesting though. I didn't notice that before. Well, that at least makes me feel a bit better about the possibility of having to vote andrew.

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Are you trying to read partner interactions there? It is tempting, but doubtful. I think scum likes a no lynch more than a mislynch here
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #492 on: November 08, 2017, 07:38:42 pm »

What is the vote count?

And don't unvote, vote IDPTG
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #493 on: November 08, 2017, 07:39:00 pm »

3rd party candidate for the lynch!
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #494 on: November 08, 2017, 07:39:59 pm »

I'm not totally sure how much longer I'll be able to be around, so I guess Vote: Andrew. If he flips scum, IDPTG definitely looks worse.  If not, I would seriously look at one of faust, LL, and probably someone who got on the Andrew wagon in a scummy way. I'll look to see if anyone stands out like that while I'm here.

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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #495 on: November 08, 2017, 07:40:31 pm »

3rd party candidate for the lynch!

Those never work out haha
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #496 on: November 08, 2017, 07:41:29 pm »

Phone posting from bed about to go to sleep. I think a lynch will go through without me having to move my vote, so I'll leave it there. I really hate small-hours deadlines because I keep staying up too late, making decisions when I'm too tired and then being sleep-deprived the next day too.

PPE 4. Wow, inviting and leaching a vote nowhere at all is really unhelpful this close to deadline!

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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #497 on: November 08, 2017, 07:42:07 pm »

IDPTG is still the place to be

Why though? My gut was actually reading him as more towny than usual.

The case on raptor is bad. Original Gut read. He actually was against Andrew before it was cool to lynch Andrew then switched to raptor. So, yeah. Just feeling like a decent lynch

I generally don't vote for people for making a bad case. I've seen as many bad cases come from town as scum, so I'm not sure that is alignment indicative at all. The timing of the switch off of Andrew is interesting though. I didn't notice that before. Well, that at least makes me feel a bit better about the possibility of having to vote andrew.

ppe 1

Are you trying to read partner interactions there? It is tempting, but doubtful. I think scum likes a no lynch more than a mislynch here

Not sure why they would like no lynch over mislynch, exactly. I guess it is less info for us, but is it really worth it D1? Also, is IDPTG who would notice and play for a no lynch over a mislynch?
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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #498 on: November 08, 2017, 07:43:11 pm »

IDPTG is still the place to be

Why though? My gut was actually reading him as more towny than usual.

The case on raptor is bad. Original Gut read. He actually was against Andrew before it was cool to lynch Andrew then switched to raptor. So, yeah. Just feeling like a decent lynch

I generally don't vote for people for making a bad case. I've seen as many bad cases come from town as scum, so I'm not sure that is alignment indicative at all. The timing of the switch off of Andrew is interesting though. I didn't notice that before. Well, that at least makes me feel a bit better about the possibility of having to vote andrew.

ppe 1

Are you trying to read partner interactions there? It is tempting, but doubtful. I think scum likes a no lynch more than a mislynch here

Not sure why they would like no lynch over mislynch, exactly. I guess it is less info for us, but is it really worth it D1? Also, is IDPTG someonewho would notice and play for a no lynch over a mislynch?

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Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 1 !)
« Reply #499 on: November 08, 2017, 07:46:05 pm »

IDPTG is still the place to be

Why though? My gut was actually reading him as more towny than usual.

The case on raptor is bad. Original Gut read. He actually was against Andrew before it was cool to lynch Andrew then switched to raptor. So, yeah. Just feeling like a decent lynch

I generally don't vote for people for making a bad case. I've seen as many bad cases come from town as scum, so I'm not sure that is alignment indicative at all. The timing of the switch off of Andrew is interesting though. I didn't notice that before. Well, that at least makes me feel a bit better about the possibility of having to vote andrew.

ppe 1

Are you trying to read partner interactions there? It is tempting, but doubtful. I think scum likes a no lynch more than a mislynch here

Not sure why they would like no lynch over mislynch, exactly. I guess it is less info for us, but is it really worth it D1? Also, is IDPTG who would notice and play for a no lynch over a mislynch?

I don't know about "going for a no lynch" more of an "ambivalent if a lynch doesn't happen"
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